[quote]mica617 wrote:
I feel that the legal system shoulders much of the blame here. Unscrupulous lawyers that take these cases to turn a buck should be shot. The judges that don’t throw these cases out of court with stern words for the parents that are trying to get money AND not raise their children should be removed from the bench.
Our country is just too damned lawsuit happy. Unfortunately the people in the legal system are willing to trade their conscience for a six or seven figure salary and they don’t care about the long term consequence to society.
It’s a snowball effect because people see other people get rich off of their own stupidity. They are too lazy to earn their own money and the precedent is set, so they “sue 'em”.
What results? We get people making $5 million because McDonalds served them a hot coffee that they would have returned and complained if it had been cold. We get kids not able to run on PLAYgrounds. We get people being sued by the burglar they shot in their own home, trying to protect their family.
I hate to use political words like “reform”, but it’s WAY past time for legal reform. Time to make the lawyers responsible when they bring a case to court.[/quote]
I agree with you. I think the biggest problem is parents in this country. Too many adults spoil their kids and don’t teach them that they have to be responsible for their own foolishness and accidents. It’s always someone else’s fault. I teach my kids that sometimes shit happens (like broken bones and cuts and bruises) and you deal with it and move on, hopefully having learned your lesson (if you were doing something stupid).
It’s always better to have your kids witness other kids breaking bones, mind you. I was fairly reckless as a kid (weren’t we all?) and I never broke anything other than my nose and I never had stitches. Actually, I don’t remember too many kids that did have any major injuries. It’s a downward spiral. You take away these activities to avoid injury and what happens is you end up with kids that can’t absorb any punishment to their bodies without getting injured.
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
Red Rover was awesome. I remember getting in trouble with my kindergarten teacher because the kid next to me and I raised our arms up to clothesline a kid trying to break through. The poor kid cried a little but no one else tried to get through us after that. I also miss “Smear the Queer”. I bet they don’t allow that one anymmore.
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LOL. I forgot all about “Smear the Queer.” One of my favorites growing up. If it’s still played, I suspect that it’s been renamed.
Red Rover was awesome. I remember getting in trouble with my kindergarten teacher because the kid next to me and I raised our arms up to clothesline a kid trying to break through. The poor kid cried a little but no one else tried to get through us after that. I also miss “Smear the Queer”. I bet they don’t allow that one anymmore.
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haha smear the queer, how politically incorrect! As I said before, the good ol’ days.
[quote]StevenF wrote:
I used to get in rock fights. If you weren’t smart enough to find cover then…yeah… the good ol’ days. [/quote]
That really about sums it up. If it wasn’t nailed down, we threw it at each other. Rocks, pinecones, ice, apples, whatever. And this just wasn’t a few roughnecks. This was the whole class, guys and girls, every recess. Such fun…
[quote]ffg wrote:
Back in fourth grade we were playing touch football on the playground, and a swingset was an out of bounds marker.
One of my classmates tried to run past me, and I accidently two hand touched him a bit too hard, and sent him face first into a swingset pole.
Needless to say, his mashed face was a bloody mess, complete with broken and missing teeth.
Just goes to show you how dangerous those swings are on our playgrounds![/quote]
Yes, I remember once kicking a kid while he was at the top of a slide. He went flying down, landing on his neck leaving him quadriplegic. Needless to say, slides should be banned from playgrounds.
[quote]shady659 wrote:
StevenF wrote:
I used to get in rock fights. If you weren’t smart enough to find cover then…yeah… the good ol’ days.
That really about sums it up. If it wasn’t nailed down, we threw it at each other. Rocks, pinecones, ice, apples, whatever. And this just wasn’t a few roughnecks. This was the whole class, guys and girls, every recess. Such fun…[/quote]
Oranges and bananas were the best. You could get nearby victims with the splash damage.
[quote]flynniec6 wrote:
I broke my neck snowboarding years ago in the USA. Second day in hospital, someone was in asking me questions about signposts on the slope, did I have proper training, was I advised that blah blah blah. I told them to fuck off, that I went over a jump I shouldn’t have and landed wrong. Sometimes people are just dumb; me included.[/quote]
Wait, you got injured and it was your own fault? Preposterous!!
Everyone knows that if something bad happens to you, it couldn’t possibly result from your own action. Someone else must be responsible. At least… that’s whay I was taught in public school.
[quote]DAN C wrote:
goldin wrote:
Kill the lawyers? If you want to kill wolves do you hunt them and trap them? No, you hunt and kill rabits, etc and the wolves will die from lack of food. I say kill the parents.
Lawyers just give people what they want. Jurisprudence is the collective sum of what judges thought acceptable within current standards of society. Blame culture.
Why are such things like blowjobs acceptable in some areas and outlawed in others? Blame culture.
As for parents… People need a license to drive, hunt, and fish. Yet the can have 12 children without any restrictions. How crazy is that?
I guess tons of lobbies help to keep that status quo. Other than governments, who has the power to influence the short-term-thinking masses? Dont blame big companies either. They just squeeze out as much as they can withing current legal guidelines. But legal guidelines reflect cultural preferences, so were back to square one.
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Yep, it’s just a collective stupidity. Since not any one specific group is totally at fault it makes fixing it rather difficult. Maybe we need another Great Flood and we won’t let any stupid people on the ark.
man i did not realize how lucky i was in middle school. During recess me and all the other guys would always play TACKLE football or smear the queer and sometimes we would sneak apples and oranges outside from lunch and whip them at each other. And it was awesome because the teacher that watched us at recess was our gym teacher and this guy was a real old school guy in his 50’s.
I will never forget those times when some body would get hurt and our gym teacher would just be like way to toughen him up. LOL
The Legal system is the problem, untill we get judges in that will throw out BS cases like this, there is no other alternative. I had no idea this sort of thing happened. I’m surprised schools still have recess at all. Honestly if I was in charge and faced these kinds of legal fines, I would end them, it is the responsible thing to do for the tax payers… I don’t want to pay some kids parents because he is a cluts…
The parents are the problem. The nation of wimps is already grown.
But if you want to play the Blame Game- Lets blame the doctors and hospitals too. If they didn’t charge so much, a kid with a broken arm could get fixed up just fine without the need to sew for such enormous bills. And the bills wouldn’t be padded so heftily if the insurance companies weren’t trying to strangle the doctors by designating the prices of procedures. But who is determining these prices- accountants and business analysts that work for the insurance companies.
I could keep extending this outward to cover just about everybody in the United States, but the point has allready been made.
What a bunch of wimps.
[quote]Todd S. wrote:
The Legal system is the problem, untill we get judges in that will throw out BS cases like this, there is no other alternative.[/quote]
To make things worse, but not derail this thread, I am sure a good portion of lawyers start and idealists and the system/years breaks them, in the very same way unions transform hardcore capitalists into pro-union guys … given enough time and enough Nos` from bosses.
Like a guy said, expect the future to be exactly like the past, only more expensive.