I used to get in rock fights. If you weren’t smart enough to find cover then…yeah… the good ol’ days.
Wait a minute, are we raising a bunch of wimps - or are the wimps already grown?
It seems to me like the parents, etc are just suing the pants of the schools to “get their way” and the school is giving in. I’d say the kids are only a result of the parents and other adults. While there are some kids that whine and just want to watch tv and play video games, I figure the majority want to play and they are being stifled for fear of legal action.
Kill the lawyers? If you want to kill wolves do you hunt them and trap them? No, you hunt and kill rabits, etc and the wolves will die from lack of food. I say kill the parents.
I think it would be funny to sue the parents and see if we could get the court to agree to incompetent parenting due to all the “safety” actually being harmful in the long run. I’m not in any way knowledgable about the legal system but it certainly needs to be done. Although it’s a terrible kind of contradiction; forcing parents to parent. I hate to see what we’ll be doing in the next generation - nap all day? That’s pretty safe. I only say
pretty" because you could choke on your own spit or something.
hspder’s input is right on the nose.
[quote]hspder wrote:
This is only the start. My colleagues over here at Stanford have been studying the dramatic changes in body and brain chemistry in today’s kids (3 to 12 year old). It’s scary – it’s like they’re a different species. All their endogenous chemicals – like hormones, neurotransmitters – and body compositions are showing at completely different levels than previous generations.
For example, average dopamine levels are amazingly low, which is a good sign that they will have severe learning disabilities. Why the lowered dopamine levels? Too much multitasking in kids that do not have their brains wired to multitask.
Their body composition is shifting to record levels of BF %, with tremendously lowered lean body mass – muscle AND bone.
One the other hand, there’s a distinct increase in histamine, adrenaline (aka epinephrine) and cortisol levels, and a surge in Type II Diabetes (aka Insulin insensitivity).
These combinations create a perfect storm for also lowered seratonin levels.
So, basically, we’re growing wimpy, fat, soft, depressed, allergic, stressed, dumb kids.
The solution? Raise your kids away from the Internet, computers, videogames, and wimpy schools, and give them a balanced diet with unprocessed foods, and plenty of physical activities, Sun and fresh air.
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[quote]goldin wrote:
Wait a minute, are we raising a bunch of wimps - or are the wimps already grown?
It seems to me like the parents, etc are just suing the pants of the schools to “get their way” and the school is giving in. I’d say the kids are only a result of the parents and other adults. While there are some kids that whine and just want to watch tv and play video games, I figure the majority want to play and they are being stifled for fear of legal action.
Kill the lawyers? If you want to kill wolves do you hunt them and trap them? No, you hunt and kill rabits, etc and the wolves will die from lack of food. I say kill the parents.
I think it would be funny to sue the parents and see if we could get the court to agree to incompetent parenting due to all the “safety” actually being harmful in the long run. I’m not in any way knowledgable about the legal system but it certainly needs to be done. Although it’s a terrible kind of contradiction; forcing parents to parent. I hate to see what we’ll be doing in the next generation - nap all day? That’s pretty safe. I only say
pretty" because you could choke on your own spit or something.[/quote]
Nail…head.
Ban parents.
And people wonder why I like Tyler Durden so much…
I didn’t have a Nintendo until I was 10 years old and wasn’t allowed to use it unless I finished my homework or complete a reading/math assignment that my mom made up (in the summertime). Along with all of that, my parents weren’t afraid of letting me get scratched or bruised doing stupid stuff, they figured that’s how kids learn what’s safe and what’s not (of course there was a degree to which this logic held true). Anyway, the bottom line is that looking back, I’m glad my parents were a little “old school” with me growing up.
It seems to me like parents today are too consumed with instant gratification for themselves and their families. By living beyond their means, they’ve built up considerable debt. This in turn led them to focus their lives mostly on making money to stay financially afloat, neglecting their kids, general health and so on in the process. To make up for this neglect, they spoil their kids and create this sick cycle of ignorance and ineptitude.
I know it’s oversimplified, but that’s a central part of the issue in a nutshell if you ask me.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
And people wonder why I like Tyler Durden so much…[/quote]
“what concerns me are celberity magazines…and some guys name on my underware”
[quote]goldin wrote:
Kill the lawyers? If you want to kill wolves do you hunt them and trap them? No, you hunt and kill rabits, etc and the wolves will die from lack of food. I say kill the parents.
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If I was going to kill wolves, I would use a big calibre rifle while sitting in my rocking chair drinking moonshine from a ceramic whiskey jar. I’d recommend going after lawyers the same way.
I’d say kill the parents to, but my trigger finger would get RSI. I’ll go you 50/50. I’ll go the lawyers, and you can go the parents.
Re: changing standards - I remember Dan John saying that he had standards for his weightlifting classes in middle school. He said in theory they were unfair because everyone had to lift the same weight. In practice, everyone got the standards.
I’m not in the USA, and when we were growing up, scratches, falls and bruises were pretty common. I find it strange and pitiful that when an adult nowadays falls, they look shocked and shaken, get up slowly, shake their head and look around to see what happened and how it could have happened to them. Instead of just getting up and going again. I think it’s the parents. My brother and his wife do the exact same thing my parents did when we had accidents: clean up the mess, tell them not to be so stupid, and put them outside again.
What scares me is that the practice of ambulance-chasing and spurious lawsuits is spreading throughout the rest of the world. I see ads here in Spain and in Ireland. You know the ones, some dumb fat chick sails into work on 12" heels and doesn’t notice the floor is wet. Then she falls, and sits there like a beached whale, with a How-Can-Anyone-Be-So-Cruel expression on her face. So she gets €5,000 or whatever. Such fucking bullshit.
I broke my neck snowboarding years ago in the USA. Second day in hospital, someone was in asking me questions about signposts on the slope, did I have proper training, was I advised that blah blah blah. I told them to fuck off, that I went over a jump I shouldn’t have and landed wrong. Sometimes people are just dumb; me included.
[quote]Panther1015 wrote:
Instead of sheltering these kids from the realities of the world, why doesn’t society as a whole emphasize teaching kids skills to cope with them, like say…self confidence, mental and physical toughness, discipline, honor and the like? I’ll only be 26 in a few months, but I see such a paradigm shift in the mindsets people only a few years younger than me and not in a good way. It’s almost scary to think these overweight softies will be running this country in a few decades. Something has to be done to change this and fast.[/quote]
People in America have access to many things to help them. For example, libraries do not cost a fortune, neither does a dial-up Internet connection.
In the past, lack of knowledge was an excuse. Now it is not. It is entirely up to the individual. If the masses are going straight to hell, there`s not much one can do other than lead by example and inspire his neighbors.
Never forget 99.99% live in and for the short-term. They just respond to now incentives. If the lethal dose per month of certain food was lower, like say 12 Krispy Kreme donuts or 5 MickeyD meals, BANG, you`d see people … find an easier drug! (Rant over.)
[quote]goldin wrote:
Kill the lawyers? If you want to kill wolves do you hunt them and trap them? No, you hunt and kill rabits, etc and the wolves will die from lack of food. I say kill the parents.[/quote]
Lawyers just give people what they want. Jurisprudence is the collective sum of what judges thought acceptable within current standards of society. Blame culture.
Why are such things like blowjobs acceptable in some areas and outlawed in others? Blame culture.
As for parents… People need a license to drive, hunt, and fish. Yet the can have 12 children without any restrictions. How crazy is that?
I guess tons of lobbies help to keep that status quo. Other than governments, who has the power to influence the short-term-thinking masses? Dont blame big companies either. They just squeeze out as much as they can withing current legal guidelines. But legal guidelines reflect cultural preferences, so were back to square one.
I just realized that I must be a cynical asshole, because my reaction to this is quite different from yours.
I think that developement is great!
Not only is my age group (25-35) a bunch of whimpish losers, oh no, the next generations are going to be even softer!?!
If that is the bulk of competition out there, I am going to be extremely wealthy and I will have had more women than Picasso when I die.
Well, I guess that?s just me , allways looking at the bright side of things ;-)…
[quote]StevenF wrote:
I used to get in rock fights. If you weren’t smart enough to find cover then…yeah… the good ol’ days. [/quote]
Must Be a Michigan thing. Man did my mom freak out when I came home with a blood encrusted head. Yeah, we weren’t smart enough to hide, did it in the middle of the street like a gun fight.
That’s one of many traditions I won’t be passing on to my kids, along with bottle rocket wars and tag in the barn rafters.
At least you have fun things in your playgrounds. Here we get a very large concrete rectangle. Thats it. We play football on it and a lot of kids run around beating each other up. Thats playtime! Wish we had monkeybars that would have been awesome.
[quote]orion wrote:
I just realized that I must be a cynical asshole, because my reaction to this is quite different from yours.
I think that developement is great!
Not only is my age group (25-35) a bunch of whimpish losers, oh no, the next generations are going to be even softer!?!
If that is the bulk of competition out there, I am going to be extremely wealthy and I will have had more women than Picasso when I die.
Well, I guess that?s just me , allways looking at the bright side of things ;-)…[/quote]
Hahaha, I had the same reaction too, I’m just worried the apocalypse is getting near…
But seriously, what the fuck are these kids supposed to do at recess, play a game of ‘walking soccer’?
[quote]Orbitalboner wrote:
But seriously, what the fuck are these kids supposed to do at recess, play a game of ‘walking soccer’?
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Soccer? With balls that hard? Are you crazy?
I feel that the legal system shoulders much of the blame here. Unscrupulous lawyers that take these cases to turn a buck should be shot. The judges that don’t throw these cases out of court with stern words for the parents that are trying to get money AND not raise their children should be removed from the bench.
Our country is just too damned lawsuit happy. Unfortunately the people in the legal system are willing to trade their conscience for a six or seven figure salary and they don’t care about the long term consequence to society.
It’s a snowball effect because people see other people get rich off of their own stupidity. They are too lazy to earn their own money and the precedent is set, so they “sue 'em”.
What results? We get people making $5 million because McDonalds served them a hot coffee that they would have returned and complained if it had been cold. We get kids not able to run on PLAYgrounds. We get people being sued by the burglar they shot in their own home, trying to protect their family.
I hate to use political words like “reform”, but it’s WAY past time for legal reform. Time to make the lawyers responsible when they bring a case to court.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Orbitalboner wrote:
But seriously, what the fuck are these kids supposed to do at recess, play a game of ‘walking soccer’?
Soccer? With balls that hard? Are you crazy?[/quote]
It’s so clear to me now. I was wrong. The NERF company is at the bottom of all of this!!
[quote]Kagemusha wrote:
George Carlin’s got a whole rant about this exact practice. I’m not even 20yrs old and games I used to play like Red Rover, Brittish Bulldog, and RedA**, have been baned. And we wonder why north amreican kids are getting so fat. [/quote]
Red Rover was awesome. I remember getting in trouble with my kindergarten teacher because the kid next to me and I raised our arms up to clothesline a kid trying to break through. The poor kid cried a little but no one else tried to get through us after that. I also miss “Smear the Queer”. I bet they don’t allow that one anymmore.
DB