Racist Bullshit

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:
This is by far the funniest (and most telling) thread ever. At first I was like “nope, nobody’s gonna type their personal beliefs in there” and then after realizing everyone (except me) has an alias I was like “Holy Shit, here it comes!!” and there it was. Thank you fellow white people for giving me a giggle at the advanced “post racial” dialogue I can expect from other college educated American males.

At some point in your effort to not be a “PC Robot” you may notice yourself articulating an argument that makes you look like a member of the AB, at that point please turn off your computers and watch some TV.

Signed,

A Concerned Citizen[/quote]

You remind me of a guy I knew who liked to watch his wife get fucked.[/quote]

yolo84 approved.

Brian you sound like a creep.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
The majority of students will belong to one of three racial groups: Indian, Asian, and Arabic. [/quote]

That’s because all the mathematically-smart white kids figured out the salaries of actual mathematicians and applied their math skills into getting finance degrees.[/quote]

Real mathematicians actually make very decent salaries. [/quote]

Sure, but it’s still a salary.

Paid by someone who went to business school and makes real money.[/quote]

Sometimes, but making more money and being a figurehead is not everyone’s dream. I could care less about being someones boss or making more money then others, even though I am some people’s boss and my paycheck is more then the median for finance and business majors. I am more interested in making scientific progress and expanding humanity’s knowledge.
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I didn’t say it was “better,” I am explaining where the white kids who are good at math are – -overwhelmingly, they go business.

For the record, I am a petroleum engineer/geologist. I would have my masters in geophysical engineering, but I left school to form a drilling company. [/quote]

Fair enough, I don’t know much about business majors or their mathematical abilities so I will take your word on that.

LOL!

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[quote]BrianHanson wrote:
This is by far the funniest (and most telling) thread ever. At first I was like “nope, nobody’s gonna type their personal beliefs in there” and then after realizing everyone (except me) has an alias I was like “Holy Shit, here it comes!!” and there it was. Thank you fellow white people for giving me a giggle at the advanced “post racial” dialogue I can expect from other college educated American males.

At some point in your effort to not be a “PC Robot” you may notice yourself articulating an argument that makes you look like a member of the AB, at that point please turn off your computers and watch some TV.

Signed,

A Concerned Citizen[/quote]

thanks for posting this!

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[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I am not an atheist. God has spoken to me more than once. But I would never ask anyone to believe me or force someone to believe me with, for ex, whips and Inquisitions.

God either speaks to you or not.
[/quote]

what did God say to you?[/quote]

(1) “The Spirit” (in an oceanic voice)

(2) “Vishnu” (as a voice)

(3) “Go and adopt a child from China.” So my wife and I did.

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^Brad pit is that you?

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

I think you are a snob. I teach simple proofs that are several hundreds of years old, but they aren’t university level, so they aren’t…proofs…uh…okay… [/quote]

Think whatever you want about me, but you should understand the limits of what you do. The simple proofs that are used in introductory calculus and precalc are used simply because they are simple. The proof in the textbook that I posted is almost identical to the one provided by Leibniz when he invented it in the 1600s. Newton’s is a bit different but still on the same level. If they tried to use the proofs that come from introductory calc textbooks these days they would have been laughed at.

[quote]
As I also said, Asians are good mimics. This makes them very good at what they do best, replicate what others have done. They do so very well and thus dominate those fields. I also said that a small number of Asians (Chinese, never taught any Arabs) are creative though not to the degree of the white students IN MY CLASSES.[/quote]

Your classes are among the most basic courses offered in mathematics and not theoretical in nature at all so what makes you think that a student’s performance in your class is a good indicator of their ability at theoretical mathematics? Go to any major university and sit in on a theoretical math class or look at the authors published in theoretical journals and you will see that your idea that white people are better at theoretical math is just plain wrong.

[quote]
Finally, last time I looked, China and India had about 2.5 billion people between them. Both cultures also despised business until quite recently and put great store on education. Small wonder that those societies dominate math and science, they outnumber us 10 to 1. [/quote]

Indians, Arabs, and Asians are very much a minority in America so why are they dominating the higher level math and math related courses like physics? I can see why Asians would dominate those classes in China, but in America there is a much higher percentage of white people enrolling in college so why are 90% of the students in my theoretical classes and most theoretical math and physics classes Indian, Arabic or Asian? They do not make up 90% of the student population in American schools that is for sure

[quote]
When one of these mimics starts an Apple, Microsoft or Facebook, your argument will carry more weight. [/quote]

None of the founders of those companies used any theoretical or even advanced mathematics at all in their early products (facebook still hasn’t) and most of their top engineers and R&D teams these days are dominated be, wait for it… Indians, Arabs, and Asians, so what bearing does that have on this conversation?

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[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
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not read the whole thread.

are you agreeing with HH that there are differences in intelligence between races, just disagreeing over white people’s place in such a ‘pecking order’?

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[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[/quote]

not read the whole thread.

aren’t you agreeing with HH that there are differences in intelligence between races, just disagreeing over white people’s place in such a ‘pecking order’?[/quote]

No, but I can see where one might think that from my discussion with him and I should have been more clear. Yes, Indians, Asians, and Arabs dominate the theoretical math and physics world today, but I do not think that is because of their race. Just look at history and there have been times when other races (white, black, Mayan, and others) have dominated theoretical math and physics so obviously there is not one race that has always dominated. I think that today Asians, Indians, and Asians are dominating the field mostly because of the work required to do well in the field and the work ethic induced upon them by their cultures. It is not easy, and white people, especially in America just do not seem to handle the work. I think it is more of a cultural issue. Americans like to spend hours and hours relaxing and doing leisure activities like messing around on Facebook or drinking or watching TV. One common trait that all of my successful students of any race have in common is work ethic. They will spend their nights and weekends at the library or in study groups learning the material they need to and they come to me or my grad students or other tutors when they can’t figure something out, and they put studying first instead of going out or watching TV. That is much more important then any perceived racial gift.

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[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[/quote]

not read the whole thread.

aren’t you agreeing with HH that there are differences in intelligence between races, just disagreeing over white people’s place in such a ‘pecking order’?[/quote]

No, but I can see where one might think that from my discussion with him and I should have been more clear. Yes, Indians, Asians, and Arabs dominate the theoretical math and physics world today, but I do not think that is because of their race. Just look at history and there have been times when other races (white, black, Mayan, and others) have dominated theoretical math and physics so obviously there is not one race that has always dominated. I think that today Asians, Indians, and Asians are dominating the field mostly because of the work required to do well in the field and the work ethic induced upon them by their cultures. It is not easy, and white people, especially in America just do not seem to handle the work. I think it is more of a cultural issue. Americans like to spend hours and hours relaxing and doing leisure activities like messing around on Facebook or drinking or watching TV. One common trait that all of my successful students of any race have in common is work ethic. They will spend their nights and weekends at the library or in study groups learning the material they need to and they come to me or my grad students or other tutors when they can’t figure something out, and they put studying first instead of going out or watching TV. That is much more important then any perceived racial gift.
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I agree.

Why do you think blacks are so poorly represented? Many Indians and Chinese are also from poor backgrounds which is a popular explanation for low black representation.

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[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[/quote]

not read the whole thread.

aren’t you agreeing with HH that there are differences in intelligence between races, just disagreeing over white people’s place in such a ‘pecking order’?[/quote]

No, but I can see where one might think that from my discussion with him and I should have been more clear. Yes, Indians, Asians, and Arabs dominate the theoretical math and physics world today, but I do not think that is because of their race. Just look at history and there have been times when other races (white, black, Mayan, and others) have dominated theoretical math and physics so obviously there is not one race that has always dominated. I think that today Asians, Indians, and Asians are dominating the field mostly because of the work required to do well in the field and the work ethic induced upon them by their cultures. It is not easy, and white people, especially in America just do not seem to handle the work. I think it is more of a cultural issue. Americans like to spend hours and hours relaxing and doing leisure activities like messing around on Facebook or drinking or watching TV. One common trait that all of my successful students of any race have in common is work ethic. They will spend their nights and weekends at the library or in study groups learning the material they need to and they come to me or my grad students or other tutors when they can’t figure something out, and they put studying first instead of going out or watching TV. That is much more important then any perceived racial gift.
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I agree.

Why do you think blacks are so poorly represented? Many Indians and Chinese are also from poor backgrounds which is a popular explanation for low black representation.[/quote]

I can’t really say for sure, I do not know very many black people, and the ones I do are fellow physicists or mathematicians. Generally, though, when a particular group is overwhelmingly underrepresented in a field it is because of one of two things:

  1. Their culture as a whole undervalues that field of study which I think is the best explanation in this case. I know that black people as a race are not stupid, but I do not see the virtue and value of higher mathematics and physics being stressed to them, or to a lot of Americans in general so that could explain it.

  2. Institutionalized racism preventing them from gaining a prominent presence in that field. I can only speak for my school, where I know that there is no such institutional racism going on.

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[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

  1. Their culture as a whole undervalues that field of study which I think is the best explanation in this case. I know that black people as a race are not stupid, but I do not see the virtue and value of higher mathematics and physics being stressed to them, or to a lot of Americans in general so that could explain it.

  2. Institutionalized racism preventing them from gaining a prominent presence in that field. I can only speak for my school, where I know that there is no such institutional racism going on.
    [/quote]

  3. But this goes for all areas of academia, not just mathematics.

  4. This must have also been/still be the case for Asians and Indians at least until they “proved” themselves.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]ranengin wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Your friends are not engaged in any sort of mental exercise – they are simply whooping and hollering at imaginary beings.
[/quote]

Are you sure you’re not an atheist?[/quote]

I am not an atheist. God has spoken to me more than once. But I would never ask anyone to believe me or force someone to believe me with, for ex, whips and Inquisitions.

God either speaks to you or not.
[/quote]

Seek help.

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[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:
This is by far the funniest (and most telling) thread ever. At first I was like “nope, nobody’s gonna type their personal beliefs in there” and then after realizing everyone (except me) has an alias I was like “Holy Shit, here it comes!!” and there it was. Thank you fellow white people for giving me a giggle at the advanced “post racial” dialogue I can expect from other college educated American males.

At some point in your effort to not be a “PC Robot” you may notice yourself articulating an argument that makes you look like a member of the AB, at that point please turn off your computers and watch some TV.

Signed,

A Concerned Citizen[/quote]

You remind me of a guy I knew who liked to watch his wife get fucked.[/quote]

yolo84 approved.

Brian you sound like a creep.[/quote]

Yolo, Thirdruffian,

You two gleaned all of that from my post? You guys are awesome. Ruufian wrote something really creepy Yolo, you should be calling him a creep, all I did was point out that this whole “I’m not a racist” shtick that you guys are using is actually…gasp…racist.
On the plus side you guys calling me a creep is like ZEB calling me an idiot, it’s a valueless judgement by anonymous internet posters, I will save my hurt feelings for the guy voted off on the Bachelorette tonight.

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[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

Yolo, Thirdruffian,

On the plus side you guys calling me a creep is like ZEB calling me an idiot, it’s a valueless judgement by anonymous internet posters, .[/quote]

Yet, we have all spotted the same thing in you. One would guess that you might have to think after a while that the world might be right and you might be wrong. But that is a rational thought isn’t it?

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

Yolo, Thirdruffian,

On the plus side you guys calling me a creep is like ZEB calling me an idiot, it’s a valueless judgement by anonymous internet posters, .[/quote]

Yet, we have all spotted the same thing in you. One would guess that you might have to think after a while that the world might be right and you might be wrong. But that is a rational thought isn’t it?[/quote]

ZEB,

I consider myself one of the few voices of Liberal reason on a forum (almost completely) full of RW misogynistic, homophobic, bible thumpers. It would be very easy for me to post on a liberal message board and be greeted with “Attaboy” and “We love you” but what is the fun in that?
You post here because most of the people are like minded I post here because they are almost all diametrically opposed to me, you choose the easy way and convince yourself you are right, I know I’m right and you prove it for me every day.
It must suck to need validation as much as you.

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[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

Yolo, Thirdruffian,

On the plus side you guys calling me a creep is like ZEB calling me an idiot, it’s a valueless judgement by anonymous internet posters, .[/quote]

Yet, we have all spotted the same thing in you. One would guess that you might have to think after a while that the world might be right and you might be wrong. But that is a rational thought isn’t it?[/quote]

ZEB,

I consider myself one of the few voices of Liberal reason on a forum (almost completely) full of RW misogynistic, homophobic, bible thumpers. It would be very easy for me to post on a liberal message board and be greeted with “Attaboy” and “We love you” but what is the fun in that?
You post here because most of the people are like minded I post here because they are almost all diametrically opposed to me, you choose the easy way and convince yourself you are right, I know I’m right and you prove it for me every day.
It must suck to need validation as much as you.[/quote]

I don’t think it is just because you are liberal. I am also one of the more liberal minded people on this forum and the conservatives even the ones that I disagree with very often do not talk to me like they do to you. You might want to think about why that is.

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[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

Yolo, Thirdruffian,

On the plus side you guys calling me a creep is like ZEB calling me an idiot, it’s a valueless judgement by anonymous internet posters, .[/quote]

Yet, we have all spotted the same thing in you. One would guess that you might have to think after a while that the world might be right and you might be wrong. But that is a rational thought isn’t it?[/quote]

ZEB,

I consider myself one of the few voices of Liberal reason on a forum (almost completely) full of RW misogynistic, homophobic, bible thumpers.[/quote]

I see, so you don’t have any respect for most of those who oppose you. It’s nice to see that you are typical of your closed minded ilk. As I said on another thread you are very good at ad homiem attacks not so good when push comes to shove and the facts are what count. So far you’ve not been able to successfully rebut any of my points. In fact regarding health care I actually had to supply you with a link which demonstrated that you had just about everything wrong that you posted. But, don’t acknowledge that, somehow if you don’t think about it I guess it didn’t happen. Is that your thought process? (Shrugs) Who knows?

True, at least here you are spotted for the idiot that you are.

[quote]You post here because most of the people are like minded I post here because they are almost all diametrically opposed to me, you choose the easy way and convince yourself you are right, I know I’m right and you prove it for me every day.
It must suck to need validation as much as you.[/quote]

It must suck to think that you know everything including why I post here. (shaking head) you’re a real winner B r i a n…Keep patting yourself on the back you might start feeling better eventually.

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[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

Yolo, Thirdruffian,

On the plus side you guys calling me a creep is like ZEB calling me an idiot, it’s a valueless judgement by anonymous internet posters, .[/quote]

Yet, we have all spotted the same thing in you. One would guess that you might have to think after a while that the world might be right and you might be wrong. But that is a rational thought isn’t it?[/quote]

ZEB,

I consider myself one of the few voices of Liberal reason on a forum (almost completely) full of RW misogynistic, homophobic, bible thumpers. It would be very easy for me to post on a liberal message board and be greeted with “Attaboy” and “We love you” but what is the fun in that?
You post here because most of the people are like minded I post here because they are almost all diametrically opposed to me, you choose the easy way and convince yourself you are right, I know I’m right and you prove it for me every day.
It must suck to need validation as much as you.[/quote]

I don’t think it is just because you are liberal. I am also one of the more liberal minded people on this forum and the conservatives even the ones that I disagree with very often do not talk to me like they do to you. You might want to think about why that is.[/quote]

It could be because you are all the things that B r i a n is not.

  1. You have intelligent arguments.

  2. Your ego is in check.

  3. You acknowledge when someone has a good point which may conflict with your own.

  4. You are generally an all around good guy.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

[quote]yolo84 wrote:
what did God say to you?[/quote]

(1) “The Spirit” (in an oceanic voice)

(2) “Vishnu” (as a voice)

(3) “Go and adopt a child from China.” So my wife and I did.
[/quote]And you don’t see this as mystical or screwy or even based in faith that you say you never use? No? God spoke to this to you? How do you know it wasn’t the ghost of Liberace playin games with you? Or Freddie Mercury giving you onomatopoeia lessons? Or maybe Richard Simmons is trying to send you a telepathic kiss and it got scrambled by somebody’s microwave en route? Maybe you’re havin an acid flashback from the good ol days? Indigestion? Standard hallucination? Or any combination therein? Why God?

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[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]BrianHanson wrote:

Yolo, Thirdruffian,

On the plus side you guys calling me a creep is like ZEB calling me an idiot, it’s a valueless judgement by anonymous internet posters, .[/quote]

Yet, we have all spotted the same thing in you. One would guess that you might have to think after a while that the world might be right and you might be wrong. But that is a rational thought isn’t it?[/quote]

ZEB,

I consider myself one of the few voices of Liberal reason on a forum (almost completely) full of RW misogynistic, homophobic, bible thumpers. It would be very easy for me to post on a liberal message board and be greeted with “Attaboy” and “We love you” but what is the fun in that?
You post here because most of the people are like minded I post here because they are almost all diametrically opposed to me, you choose the easy way and convince yourself you are right, I know I’m right and you prove it for me every day.
It must suck to need validation as much as you.[/quote]

I don’t think it is just because you are liberal. I am also one of the more liberal minded people on this forum and the conservatives even the ones that I disagree with very often do not talk to me like they do to you. You might want to think about why that is.[/quote]

Well if I remember correctly you arent to the left in economic matters and brian is and thats why he get all moronic flack he gets from the more conservative posters. Its nothing new here and its part of the tour for us left of center guys. ZEB and I went trough the same shit, but I beleive we are at peace with eachother now.

So to recap the shit towards leftists like brian are the bar mitzva or the right of passage for us left leaning guys here at PWI and if you start to argue for a bigger welfare state and more taxation etc you will experience it yourself :wink: