[quote]jawara wrote:
This is weak. Did you take into account the Jimmy Carter called Barry a black “boy”? Just because you have a few people in a group who think a certain way does not mean the whole group thinks that way. And for the the record I’m black and the more I research Barry, the more I don’t like him, and I’ve done a good amount of it.[/quote]
For the record, the only people that care if you’re black would be the people you seemingly support.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Radical conservatives are racist? Color me shocked. Next you’ll tell me they are homophobic.
I’m not sure how you people think this doesn’t represent the tea baggers? It completely represents them as a whole. The only difference is their public speakers all stop one step short of calling their enemies “traitors, niggers, or faggots” etc. as that would make them look bad.
No, they aren’t all racist, but a LOT are. Either make a real attempt at distancing yourselves from these people or watch as the tea bagging movement flounders.
You know, just once I’d like to see a Tea Party protest broken up by tear gas and rubber bullets.[/quote]
How the hell do you know anything about what’s going on over here? TV?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Members of the Black Panther Party were at voting polls in 2008, calling white people 'crackers"… did you have a point here ?[/quote]
The point is that there are a lot of people, especially FoxNews, who give this so-called Tea Party a lot of credibility. CNN and other “liberal” media outlets aren’t going around pointing to Black Panthers as a legitimate voice in the political world that should be taken seriously.
I was at a Tea Party rally about a year ago in Sacramento (I just happened to be there that day and went to check it out since I was staying at a friend’s house only a block from the Capitol building where the protests were happening) and I can tell you that from what I saw the blatant racism was NOT an isolated incident.
My friend’s father, who was literally screaming and flailing about in his home about “fucking niggers” taking over the White House, also attended the rally. Although they were in the minority, there was a considerable amount of people going around with nooses and racially-charged posters. To counter the existence of these Tea Partyers by pointing to an equally reprehensible fringe group on the other side is to ignore that there is obviously a lot of racism fueling the Tea Party.
Where were these same protestors when the Bush administration was spending billions a month in Iraq? Regardless of how successful the spending of tax dollars turns out to be, what is a better expenditure: spending money trying to rebuild America or rebuilding Iraq? If the Tea Partyers are so concerned with fiscal responsibility, then where were they 7 years ago when the war drums were being beaten in Iraq?
I can guarantee you that the people at those anti-war protests are not the same at these Tea Party rallies. In fact, I asked these same questions to several of the noose-waving protestors in Sacramento and I damn near got my teeth kicked in for it. It seems that some of these Tea Partyers are in fact racists and have found a convenient argument to wrap around their racism. These people are not representative of the “Tea Party” as a whole, but it is sickening to hear people try to rationalize this fringe element’s behavior rather than acknowledge what it really is.
If the Tea Party is to have any sort of legitimacy whatsoever, the true conservatives who are not racially-motivated should be standing up and condemning this whacko element more vociferously than any liberal-leaning group currently is. FoxNews and people like Glenn Beck, Hannity and O’Reilly should be the first to stand up and condemn them, rather than skirt the issue with bullshit rationalizations like “the other side does it too, so where were you then?” Wherever they were, they weren’t pointing to Black Panthers as a new, legitimate voice to be reckoned with in the next couple of election cycles. I don’t watch those guys a whole lot, but I do watch them occassionally and I’ve never heard them directly address this issue.
[quote]thefederalist wrote:
related video:
tribulus: no, trib. this next video is old, but well known and relevant. Misconceptions of Obama fuel Republican campaign - YouTube
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If it wasn’t so disgusting, it would actually be quite funny to hear so-called Christians spew hate and vitriol toward Obama. I’m not a very religious person, but I do know a thing or two about Jesus and I can tell you right now that someone who believes in and follows the teachings of Jesus would not be couching their hate in such terms as “nigger”.
These people, 2000 years ago, would be the ones lining the streets jeering and spitting at Jesus as he carried a fucking cross he was going to get nailed to. A true believer in the teachings of Jesus would have no problem in spending their tax dollars to help the less-fortunate who cannot afford healthcare, regardless of the financial risk, rather than spending it on a war in Iraq that has been doomed to failure since Day One and has only served to kill Americans and Iraqis. They’re only Christians when it’s convenient for them to be.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
How the hell do you know anything about what’s going on over here? TV?[/quote]
I had an elaborate response all planned out, but I realized this question is just going to keep coming up because you don’t actually have any real points to make.
No, it’s not just TV or the newspaper that gives me my information. Having friends and family in the USA also helps. Please tell me you’re not harboring some delusion that people taking an interest in the internal politics of a major super power isn’t justified.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Radical conservatives are racist? Color me shocked. Next you’ll tell me they are homophobic.
I’m not sure how you people think this doesn’t represent the tea baggers? It completely represents them as a whole. The only difference is their public speakers all stop one step short of calling their enemies “traitors, niggers, or faggots” etc. as that would make them look bad.
No, they aren’t all racist, but a LOT are. Either make a real attempt at distancing yourselves from these people or watch as the tea bagging movement flounders.
You know, just once I’d like to see a Tea Party protest broken up by tear gas and rubber bullets.[/quote]
How the hell do you know anything about what’s going on over here? TV?[/quote]
x1000000. Regardless of where you stand on this issue, only people actually living in America should participate in this conversation. You don’t see us decrying the brain drain that’s been going on over in New Zealand for decades.
[quote]thefederalist wrote:
Two Democratic Congressmen called N*****s. Barney Frank called a f****t.
Katz - where were you when this was happening, bud?
The jig is up. You guys don’t hate the healthcare reform bill, you hate n*****s.
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I’m sure you’ve thought of this, but if the implicit purpose of the Tea Party movement was to denigrate black people, attacking Obamacare is an incredibly inefficient and roundabout way of accomplishing that goal. There are easier ways, such as one followed by this prominent Democrat:
[quote]Otep wrote:
[quote]thefederalist wrote:
Two Democratic Congressmen called N*****s. Barney Frank called a f****t.
Katz - where were you when this was happening, bud?
The jig is up. You guys don’t hate the healthcare reform bill, you hate n*****s.
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I’m sure you’ve thought of this, but if the implicit purpose of the Tea Party movement was to denigrate black people, attacking Obamacare is an incredibly inefficient and roundabout way of accomplishing that goal. There are easier ways, such as one followed by this prominent Democrat:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd[/quote]
Jesus fucking Christ. Anybody can get elected in this country can’t they?
Racism at a Tea Party event? Surely you jest.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
How the hell do you know anything about what’s going on over here? TV?[/quote]
I had an elaborate response all planned out, but I realized this question is just going to keep coming up because you don’t actually have any real points to make.
No, it’s not just TV or the newspaper that gives me my information. Having friends and family in the USA also helps. Please tell me you’re not harboring some delusion that people taking an interest in the internal politics of a major super power isn’t justified.[/quote]
Hearing foreigners’ opinions, I think, is actually valuable. Not that they are necessarily more reliable, of course, but their comments typically come from a different perspective.
[quote]thefederalist wrote:
Two Democratic Congressmen called N*****s. Barney Frank called a f****t.
Katz - where were you when this was happening, bud?
The jig is up. You guys don’t hate the healthcare reform bill, you hate n*****s.
[/quote]
…and Hamilton continues to be misunderstood.
mike
Racism is the last card they can play before they run out of ways to demonize this group. Best to ignore it.
[quote]John S. wrote:
Racism is the last card they can play before they run out of ways to demonize this group. Best to ignore it.[/quote]
You’re not even trying to explain this? Wow.
[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
[quote]Makavali wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
How the hell do you know anything about what’s going on over here? TV?[/quote]
I had an elaborate response all planned out, but I realized this question is just going to keep coming up because you don’t actually have any real points to make.
No, it’s not just TV or the newspaper that gives me my information. Having friends and family in the USA also helps. Please tell me you’re not harboring some delusion that people taking an interest in the internal politics of a major super power isn’t justified.[/quote]
Hearing foreigners’ opinions, I think, is actually valuable. Not that they are necessarily more reliable, of course, but their comments typically come from a different perspective.[/quote]
No no, you take your common sense and leave please. It clearly isn’t welcome in these parts.
[quote]John S. wrote:
Racism is the last card they can play before they run out of ways to demonize this group. Best to ignore it.[/quote]
Contrary to popular PWI wisdom…racism in America never went anywhere and is alive and well.
Demonizing a group as a whole is just as bad as screaming “rascism” at every slight…but don’t think for one instance that it doesn’t exist.
Mufasa
Neither party is racism free. Growing up a prominent Democratic leader in my area talked about being able to count on the nigger vote. He was not a friend of anyone black, but counted on that 90+% voting block.
Yes, Democrats can be racist. And yes, they play the race card whenever they can. And people like me are sick of it.
…Neither party is racism free…
Agree.
Mufasa
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
To be clear, I wouldn’t care if every single participant in every tea part rally in the country were an avowed klan member in full pointy headed garb.
They don’t define me or the beliefs of tens of millions of Americans who love this country as founded and view her downfall in terms of principle, not of race.
Unlike collectivist liberals who identify themselves by their community, true conservatives will denounce a violation of their principles wherever it may be found. If the tea party at large is racist, which I do know better than anyway, then I denounce it.
See how easy that was.[/quote]
Amazing how a few idiots mean the whole conservative movement is ‘racist’ to the libs.
Bright group, eh?
http://networkedblogs.com/1uv6H
Most likely a plant by the Democrats to attempt to discredit the Tea Party protest in D.C. The Democrats and Obama in particular have over played the race card scam and at this point it is backfiring on them. The message got out way to quick to the media outlets and the DNC minions are doing their best to try and ignite the story. Unfortunately for them it’s falling flat.
It’s not like the Dems can argue the bills features since they are so detrimental to the economy and disastrous for health care ,in the US ,in general.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
don’t watch those guys a whole lot, but I do watch them occassionally and I’ve never heard them directly address this issue. [/quote]
You watch them rarely, but pass judgment on them.
Now I see why Cali is in the mess its in.
You know, the Founding Fathers handed us a country and said, “Here, you, the People, get to run the show!!”. That DOES require thought, informed opinion, and so on. Quit texting and playing mindless video games and do your job!!!