[quote]snipeout wrote:
NOTE This is going to be a rant also Here is the problem, you only read what you want to read from these posts. I understand not all people of middle eastern descent or northern african descent are bad people. The point you’re missing is that they are not ENTITLED to be here, student visas are a PRIVILEGE, not a right. As I can atest to first hand from having been in the military and working in a prison and a jail, sometimes what a very small minority of the specific population does can affect the masses.
I will use jail for instance, if I have a dorm of 40 people and I have 5 unidentifiable inmates(or convicts)causing problems - i.e. pushing up on others taking food trays and beating the crap out of one or two inmates in a cell because they wouldn’t give up a ramen noodle soup - I am left no option but to lock the entire dorm down cell by cell until my investigation reveals the source of the problem. I just punished 90% of the people for the 10% causing problems.
Now place this on a larger scale, until these middle eastern and northern african governments can better police their own countries and better collect intel as to who has terror links and who does not, you simply do not have the “privilege” of coming to the United States to study. We as a country need to put more pressure on these regimes so they can internally squeeze out these EXTREMISTS. If they don’t, they do not receive one cent of economic aid. This is where politics and left and right wing comes into play. We are dependent upon foreign oil for many reasons.
One reason, a big reason is ANWR, a wildlife reserve in Alaska rich in oil reserves. Why you ask do we not simply drill the 2000 acres out of the 19 million acres required to extract the oil here? Because left wing liberal interests - animal rights activists - are afraid it may distract the caribous mating ritual. Now you’re asking yourself, where is he going with this and why do I care? Well because we won’t drill ANWR we are highly dependent on Saudi and UAE oil. If we depend on their oil how can we sanction them? We can’t, unless you dont mind paying 5$'s for a gallon of gas.
Let me throw a liberal answer out there, alternative fuel sources. No one with enough money to create a whole new fuel industry, next liberal answer, we’ll raise your taxes and the government will pay for it. Let’s get real deep into the whole middle eastern problem, hell I would say it manifested right back in the Carter administration, another appeasement liberal. In 1979 el presidente Carter allowed the then moderate ruling shah of iran to be deposed by an angry mob of islamic extremists, not through the shahs’ lack of appealing to the Carter administration for guidance as to how to handle the uprising. Carter told the shah to do nothing or face reprecussions from the U.S. if he crushes the uprising.
Failure to quell the mob led to the shahs’ demise and the iranian embassy being taken hostage just a few short months later. As you can see appeasement and non-offensive tactics do not work against these extremists. what you have is a snowball effect, by America not being able to protect itself in anyway which may violate the poor terrorists civil rights we open ourselves up to more attacks. All you huggy kissy liberals need to join the army or marine corps, get out see the world, see how the rest of the world wants us dead because of our capitalist society, our freedom of choice, you may be less likely to cry how racial profiling is a bad thing.
Just because you were coddled through college by some liberal 1969 weed smoking liberal professor doesn’t mean there aren’t people out there who don’t care how much you apologize for being more successful or how much aid you give them, they will cut your head off and chant “allah ahkbar” because you are the infidel. So, yes you may have to punish the masses of middle eastern countries to protect this country. You have to ask yourself one question, are you more concerned with what they think or would you rather live to see another day… [/quote]
So, it’s a privilege and not a right. Agreed. It doesn’t mean we should structure and society and change our policy on student visas. You analogy is not very relevant. You’re talking about 5 people out of 40, the source of whom could be revealed by an invesitigation? That’s a lot different than denying student visas to an entire class of people because .25% are terrorist none of whom may be the students in question. It wouldn’t do anything anyhow. There are tons of Muslims living in this country as legal residents and citizens. Any # of them could get involved in terrorist activity. So, what should be done? Deportation? Internment camps? You want to punish millions for the theoretical future actions of a very few.
Your attempts to make this posts about liberal vs. conservatism highly discredit you. I’m not a liberal. I vote on issues, am extremely dissatisfied with both current parties, and often find the Republican’s stance on certain things best. I support drilling in Alaska. I think it’s worth it to become less dependent on foreign oil, and the sacrifice to the Alaskan wilderness is worth it. I do not, however, support the plethora of other policies that erode the environmental protections. And drilling for oil in Alaska, itself, is not enough. Nor is it necessarily the best answer. The amount and quality of Alaskan oil is highly questionable. Reasearch and development into alternative energery sources IS a good idea. Bush made a speech on it. Reagan was talking about it back in the 80s. People should have listened more. There have been significant strides already with practically no public funding whatsoever.
Show me any proof whatsoever that terrorists’ ‘civil rights’ are being protected. Where are these terrorists? In your post, they don’t exist. And the end of your post about liberal crap is drivel and totally irrelevent to the topic at hand.