Race Question

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:

[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
does it bother anyone when light skinned or mixed african americans call themselves black?

in my experience other blacks have no problem with it, it is most commonly a problem with white people.

obviously in terms of skin tone they may not be ‘black’ but in terms of heritage they are african.

ive had several people, especially white girls, tell me im ‘not black’ and i always find it disturbing that they feel the need to express this opinion, and it is usually mean spirited like an attempt to hurt me.

im not half white and if anything behind african im predominately native american.

i have obvious theories on why this is an issue with people, but since i cant really observe it from an outside perspective i wanted to find out why this bothers some people so much.
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Are you really part Indian or are you doing the trendy thing that is largely bullshit?
If you are indeed predominately Indian, why do you call yourself black?
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im sorry, but youre a fucking moron, and apparently you cant read because if you wouldve taken 5 minutes to ACTUALLY READ MY POSTS you would have an answer to your inane question.

nevermind the fact that you tried to attack my character doing exactly what most insecure, igonorant, narrow minded white people do by trying to undermine my feelings and reducing the issue to simply a matter of ‘me trying to be cool or trendy’

listen closely fuckface, ill repeat it again…

MY FATHER IS BLACK, MY MOTHER IS (IN DESCENDING ORDER) BLACK, NATIVE AMERICAN, CARIBBEAN (WEST INDIES), AND WHITE

THE ONLY REASON MY MOTHER IS CARIBBEAN AND WHITE IS BECAUSE HER GREAT GRANDFATHER, WHO WAS WHITE, HAD A CHILD WITH ONE OF HIS SERVANTS OUT OF WEDLOCK THAT WAS FROM THE WEST INDIES

THEREFORE SINCE MY FATHER IS BLACK AND MY MOTHER IS PART BLACK THAT WOULD MAKE ME PREDOMINATELY BLACK

AND IN TERMS OF CULTURE BOTH MY PARENTS WERE RAISED IN BLACK CULTURE, SAW THEMSELVES AS BLACK AND WERE TREATED AS SUCH BY SOCIETY LEADING THEM TO RAISE MYSELF AND MY BROTHERS THE SAME WAY AND WE WERE TREATED BY PEOPLE THE SAME AS WELL

THIS IS WHY I SAY IM BLACK, AND AGAIN YOURE A FUCKING MORON.

AND APPARENTLY I NOW KNOW THAT THE REASON SOME WHITE PEOPLE GET UPSET WHEN I SAY I AM BLACK IT IS BECAUSE YOU DONT VIEW BEING BLACK AS ANYTHING MORE THAN AN ‘IMAGE’ DERIVED FROM POP CULTURE AND HAVE NO RESPECT FOR IT AS AN ACTUAL NATIONALITY OR SOURCE OF HERITAGE, GO FUCK YOURSELF.

[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
Who is that in your avatar awesomeguy1234[/quote]

jewels jade, hardcore pornstar with a figure model body, great combo.

Got your pm, will reply manana. On phone, bout to pass out.

[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
haha, but why would i want to accept ‘white’ status as if it was an upgrade? and at the same time when it is not who i am? same for eminem, i think that even though people consider him ‘black’ i think he does and should not consider himself no longer white, for example he refuses to use the n-word in any of his songs or daily life.
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You obviously never heard his earlier songs where he took pleasure insulting black women and using the n word several times.

Of course, he does consider himself white. He just makes money off black music. He’s a fucking racist pig. And those who see him as a ‘‘black’’ are idiots.

[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:

[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
does it bother anyone when light skinned or mixed african americans call themselves black?

in my experience other blacks have no problem with it, it is most commonly a problem with white people.

obviously in terms of skin tone they may not be ‘black’ but in terms of heritage they are african.

ive had several people, especially white girls, tell me im ‘not black’ and i always find it disturbing that they feel the need to express this opinion, and it is usually mean spirited like an attempt to hurt me.

im not half white and if anything behind african im predominately native american.

i have obvious theories on why this is an issue with people, but since i cant really observe it from an outside perspective i wanted to find out why this bothers some people so much.
[/quote]
Are you really part Indian or are you doing the trendy thing that is largely bullshit?
If you are indeed predominately Indian, why do you call yourself black?
[/quote]

im sorry, but youre a fucking moron, and apparently you cant read because if you wouldve taken 5 minutes to ACTUALLY READ MY POSTS you would have an answer to your inane question.

nevermind the fact that you tried to attack my character doing exactly what most insecure, igonorant, narrow minded white people do by trying to undermine my feelings and reducing the issue to simply a matter of ‘me trying to be cool or trendy’

listen closely fuckface, ill repeat it again…

MY FATHER IS BLACK, MY MOTHER IS (IN DESCENDING ORDER) BLACK, NATIVE AMERICAN, CARIBBEAN (WEST INDIES), AND WHITE

THE ONLY REASON MY MOTHER IS CARIBBEAN AND WHITE IS BECAUSE HER GREAT GRANDFATHER, WHO WAS WHITE, HAD A CHILD WITH ONE OF HIS SERVANTS OUT OF WEDLOCK THAT WAS FROM THE WEST INDIES

THEREFORE SINCE MY FATHER IS BLACK AND MY MOTHER IS PART BLACK THAT WOULD MAKE ME PREDOMINATELY BLACK

AND IN TERMS OF CULTURE BOTH MY PARENTS WERE RAISED IN BLACK CULTURE, SAW THEMSELVES AS BLACK AND WERE TREATED AS SUCH BY SOCIETY LEADING THEM TO RAISE MYSELF AND MY BROTHERS THE SAME WAY AND WE WERE TREATED BY PEOPLE THE SAME AS WELL

THIS IS WHY I SAY IM BLACK, AND AGAIN YOURE A FUCKING MORON.

AND APPARENTLY I NOW KNOW THAT THE REASON SOME WHITE PEOPLE GET UPSET WHEN I SAY I AM BLACK IT IS BECAUSE YOU DONT VIEW BEING BLACK AS ANYTHING MORE THAN AN ‘IMAGE’ DERIVED FROM POP CULTURE AND HAVE NO RESPECT FOR IT AS AN ACTUAL NATIONALITY OR SOURCE OF HERITAGE, GO FUCK YOURSELF. [/quote]

you are easy to anger which I figured when I baited you.
you jump to conclusions rather easy as well.
It was fun for me. Thanks for the entertainment.

This has actually been an interesting thread.

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:

[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:

[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
does it bother anyone when light skinned or mixed african americans call themselves black?

in my experience other blacks have no problem with it, it is most commonly a problem with white people.

obviously in terms of skin tone they may not be ‘black’ but in terms of heritage they are african.

ive had several people, especially white girls, tell me im ‘not black’ and i always find it disturbing that they feel the need to express this opinion, and it is usually mean spirited like an attempt to hurt me.

im not half white and if anything behind african im predominately native american.

i have obvious theories on why this is an issue with people, but since i cant really observe it from an outside perspective i wanted to find out why this bothers some people so much.
[/quote]
Are you really part Indian or are you doing the trendy thing that is largely bullshit?
If you are indeed predominately Indian, why do you call yourself black?
[/quote]

im sorry, but youre a fucking moron, and apparently you cant read because if you wouldve taken 5 minutes to ACTUALLY READ MY POSTS you would have an answer to your inane question.

nevermind the fact that you tried to attack my character doing exactly what most insecure, igonorant, narrow minded white people do by trying to undermine my feelings and reducing the issue to simply a matter of ‘me trying to be cool or trendy’

listen closely fuckface, ill repeat it again…

MY FATHER IS BLACK, MY MOTHER IS (IN DESCENDING ORDER) BLACK, NATIVE AMERICAN, CARIBBEAN (WEST INDIES), AND WHITE

THE ONLY REASON MY MOTHER IS CARIBBEAN AND WHITE IS BECAUSE HER GREAT GRANDFATHER, WHO WAS WHITE, HAD A CHILD WITH ONE OF HIS SERVANTS OUT OF WEDLOCK THAT WAS FROM THE WEST INDIES

THEREFORE SINCE MY FATHER IS BLACK AND MY MOTHER IS PART BLACK THAT WOULD MAKE ME PREDOMINATELY BLACK

AND IN TERMS OF CULTURE BOTH MY PARENTS WERE RAISED IN BLACK CULTURE, SAW THEMSELVES AS BLACK AND WERE TREATED AS SUCH BY SOCIETY LEADING THEM TO RAISE MYSELF AND MY BROTHERS THE SAME WAY AND WE WERE TREATED BY PEOPLE THE SAME AS WELL

THIS IS WHY I SAY IM BLACK, AND AGAIN YOURE A FUCKING MORON.

AND APPARENTLY I NOW KNOW THAT THE REASON SOME WHITE PEOPLE GET UPSET WHEN I SAY I AM BLACK IT IS BECAUSE YOU DONT VIEW BEING BLACK AS ANYTHING MORE THAN AN ‘IMAGE’ DERIVED FROM POP CULTURE AND HAVE NO RESPECT FOR IT AS AN ACTUAL NATIONALITY OR SOURCE OF HERITAGE, GO FUCK YOURSELF. [/quote]
you are easy to anger which I figured when I baited you.
you jump to conclusions rather easy as well.
It was fun for me. Thanks for the entertainment.

This has actually been an interesting thread.[/quote]

from an earlier post of mine, which again you probably didnt read…

“i find it to be condescending and defensive when people say it, because when i tell them im not half white i can tell they feel stupid for saying what they did but usually stick to their guns and begin saying hurtful ignorant things about my personality or character.”

youve followed the exact train of thought of every ignorant asshole that inspired me to start this thread.

  1. you didnt bait me, you thought you were calling me out and you failed, youre trying to save face.

  2. its not jumping to conclusions when you present yourself and your thoughts in the way you did, everything i said in response was entirely in line with what you said in your post.

  3. you didnt make any form of a response or rebuttal to my post because you have no ground to stand on, you could atleast be a man and apologize for what you said and for JUMPING to conclusions and speaking in an aggressive or ANGRY tone without first making sure you were fully informed.

  4. youre still a fucking moron.

[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:

from an earlier post of mine, which again you probably didnt read…

“i find it to be condescending and defensive when people say it, because when i tell them im not half white i can tell they feel stupid for saying what they did but usually stick to their guns and begin saying hurtful ignorant things about my personality or character.”

youve followed the exact train of thought of every ignorant asshole that inspired me to start this thread.

  1. you didnt bait me, you thought you were calling me out and you failed, youre trying to save face.

  2. its not jumping to conclusions when you present yourself and your thoughts in the way you did, everything i said in response was entirely in line with what you said in your post.

  3. you didnt make any form of a response or rebuttal to my post because you have no ground to stand on, you could atleast be a man and apologize for what you said and for JUMPING to conclusions and speaking in an aggressive or ANGRY tone without first making sure you were fully informed.

  4. youre still a fucking moron.
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Think what you want. You have that right.

White’s Win! White’s Win!

and BTW, thanks for the Jewels Jade lead. Good stuff.

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
White’s Win! White’s Win! [/quote]

lol

In all honest, we all lost. 4 pages we can’t get back.

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
White’s Win! White’s Win! [/quote]

failing in your aggressive tactics in an attempt to outsmart your opponent and resorting to passive aggressive attacks to disguise the fact that you have simply given up rather than admit defeat and that you were wrong…?

wear that crown with pride my friend.

p.s. the purpose of the post was never to pit blacks versus whites, i was trying to learn more about the white perspective.

When are people going to stop taking me seriously?? And, we only have 10 more comments to clear the 5 page barrier…you could say, I have a dream for this thread.

As an aside, my workout partner in NYC is an American black guy, very dark, but not “African dark” (much darker than Obama, for example — Obama actually being Berber or arab, but that’s another thread).

Anyway, an African black guy (who is actually black-skinned, not “cofee” like even the darkest American blacks) started working out at about the same time. He was friendly enough, but my friend was just openly hateful to him.

I asked him, and he said he hated those “Shaka Zulu Kunta Kente motherfuckers.” And then went on a tirade.

For whatever reason, it was just fucking hillarious to me.

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
and BTW, thanks for the Jewels Jade lead. Good stuff. [/quote]

no problem, shes pretty hot, surprised not more guys on here know about her, shes pretty popular.

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
When are people going to stop taking me seriously?? And, we only have 10 more comments to clear the 5 page barrier…you could say, I have a dream for this thread.[/quote]

Should the ‘S’ in Scotia be capitalized?

TN fail?

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
When are people going to stop taking me seriously?? And, we only have 10 more comments to clear the 5 page barrier…you could say, I have a dream for this thread.[/quote]

Should the ‘S’ in Scotia be capitalized?

TN fail?[/quote]

It should be, I’ve tried multiple times to rectify it. I’ve noticed it’s an issue for other people from NS, but not all…I feel discriminated against.

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
When are people going to stop taking me seriously?? And, we only have 10 more comments to clear the 5 page barrier…you could say, I have a dream for this thread.[/quote]

im beginning to get your humor, its taking me a little bit, but im getting there.

the batman post in the ‘how did your parents meet’ thread was fucking genius though, i actually read at first as if it were true and then i couldnt stop laughing.

i feel bad, cause its usually me having to explain my humor to people, i have become what i hate haha

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
When are people going to stop taking me seriously?? And, we only have 10 more comments to clear the 5 page barrier…you could say, I have a dream for this thread.[/quote]

Should the ‘S’ in Scotia be capitalized?

TN fail?[/quote]

It should be, I’ve tried multiple times to rectify it. I’ve noticed it’s an issue for other people from NS, but not all…I feel discriminated against.[/quote]

I’m sure it is personal.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
As an aside, my workout partner in NYC is an American black guy, very dark, but not “African dark” (much darker than Obama, for example — Obama actually being Berber or arab, but that’s another thread).

Anyway, an African black guy (who is actually black-skinned, not “cofee” like even the darkest American blacks) started working out at about the same time. He was friendly enough, but my friend was just openly hateful to him.

I asked him, and he said he hated those “Shaka Zulu Kunta Kente motherfuckers.” And then went on a tirade.

For whatever reason, it was just fucking hillarious to me.[/quote]

wow, sounds more like a personal problem haha

but i know what youre saying with obama, his father is from east africa which is arguably the middle east, unlike american slaves which were taken mostly from west africa and the coast.

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]JaseHxC wrote:
When are people going to stop taking me seriously?? And, we only have 10 more comments to clear the 5 page barrier…you could say, I have a dream for this thread.[/quote]

Should the ‘S’ in Scotia be capitalized?

TN fail?[/quote]

It should be, I’ve tried multiple times to rectify it. I’ve noticed it’s an issue for other people from NS, but not all…I feel discriminated against.[/quote]

youre not canadian.