[quote]mfh wrote:
am 19 years old going to use the 10 mg d-bol pill and EFX , how many pills should i take a day and for how many weeks?[/quote]
You should take 15 pills 3 times per day for the first ten weeks, after that cycle down to 30 pills per day for the following six weeks and then stop taking them completely. Wait 2 months before starting another cycle.
What is “black” anyways?
I know Tupac says the darker the berry the sweeter the juice…
Most blacks in America are mixed race. What shade is the cut off or does having any African blood make one black?
50% black = black? Or would it be 50% African American = Black?
Does this tie in to Yella Bones and Red Bones as discussed previously?
Also, should I be calling myself Icelandic/Finnish/German/Scottish American?
Or just American?
Or White American?
Or Texan American? White Texan American?
Or just my name?
Subjective definitions are weird.
waylander:
the problem for me is that technically im not half and half of anything, my father is black and my mother is black, native american, caribbean, and white. both of my parents grew up in the deep south and were raised as black children in black culture, as weird as the phrase sounds haha.
so for myself i was always raised and told by my parents that i was black and there was no other associations made with white, caribbean, or native american culture or people at all. also people have always treated me as if i was black as well ever since i was little.
ct rockula:
when it comes to the question of whether or not i fit stereotypes, its a relative question, because as you know anyone that has spent significant amounts time hanging out and talking to black people on an individual level the popular stereotypes that whites associate with blacks are usually extreme and narrow minded and dont actually represent the black perspective.
but according to these assumed ideas about blacks i will say that other than speaking well (i dont really talk ‘slang’ consistently) and not necessarily being interested in expensive clothes or accessories beyond basketball shoes i wouldnt say i exhibit any qualities that would be construed as white.
youll never catch me at a dave matthews concert or camping. (yes, i know half of dave matthews band is black, but i think you get what im trying to say)
edevus:
hahaha i knew someone would bring that up, but no that is not an issue.
it usually comes up in conversation whenever my race is brought up in a joke, question, or whatever.
samir:
this is one of the reasons i think that people are bothered by me because they cant simply put me in a category and when i tell them im black they are disturbed by this because im big and athletic, but im also educated, i would think this makes me endearing, but apparently it makes them feel uncomfortable.
skyzyks:
youre right i have no idea, and i will not undermine or minimalize your concerns and struggles as such.
i would feel uncomfortable posting a pic directly to the board, if anyone is curious i will pm you a pic and you can contribute your opinion on the thread.
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
[quote]mfh wrote:
am 19 years old going to use the 10 mg d-bol pill and EFX , how many pills should i take a day and for how many weeks?[/quote]
You should take 15 pills 3 times per day for the first ten weeks, after that cycle down to 30 pills per day for the following six weeks and then stop taking them completely. Wait 2 months before starting another cycle.[/quote]
some frend told me to take 3 pills per day for the first 2 weeks then 2 pills 3rd week and 1 pill the 4th week which is the last week , is this right?
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Have a nice oar bath[/quote]
Que es ein oar bath?
[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
does it bother anyone when light skinned or mixed african americans call themselves black?
…
ive had several people, especially white girls, tell me im ‘not black’ and i always find it disturbing that they feel the need to express this opinion, and it is usually mean spirited like an attempt to hurt me.
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Call yourself whatever you want. Or better yet, don’t call yourself anything but your name.
Not quite the same issue, but my dad (whom I have never really known) was some sort of European and my mother Mescalero Apache, and I grew up on the Reservation.
I get the “you’re Mexican” comments all the time from Anglos (outside of New Mexico, where lots of people are Indian — I don’t know what the fuck “Native American” is).
And on the Reservation, I got “you’re half-white” because I was a good foot and a half taller than the next guy in my class. (I’m 6’10")
And I pretty much realized people are assholes and lazy thinkers who want to pigeon hole you.
You are what you do and don’t do. What you say and don’t say.
I’m an American. I drill wells, chase pussy, and work hard.
[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
skyzyks:
youre right i have no idea, and i will not undermine or minimalize your concerns and struggles as such.
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It’s O.K. man, I was just goofing off. Lots of caffeine and an easy day at work does that to me.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Have a nice oar bath[/quote]
Que es ein oar bath?
[/quote]
Oh I’m sorry. I meant oat bath. With jasmine and lavander candles
[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
ct rockula:
when it comes to the question of whether or not i fit stereotypes, its a relative question, because as you know anyone that has spent significant amounts time hanging out and talking to black people on an individual level the popular stereotypes that whites associate with blacks are usually extreme and narrow minded and dont actually represent the black perspective.
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Ironically I can say this is the same as the narrow minded stereotypes that most black people like to paint of their white counterparts…narrow mindedness views of race, attitudes and perceptions are not just a white thing.
[quote]mfh wrote:
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
[quote]mfh wrote:
am 19 years old going to use the 10 mg d-bol pill and EFX , how many pills should i take a day and for how many weeks?[/quote]
You should take 15 pills 3 times per day for the first ten weeks, after that cycle down to 30 pills per day for the following six weeks and then stop taking them completely. Wait 2 months before starting another cycle.[/quote]
some frend told me to take 3 pills per day for the first 2 weeks then 2 pills 3rd week and 1 pill the 4th week which is the last week , is this right?[/quote]
OK before this gets out of hand, let me just say that oral-only cycles are a very bad idea.
If you’re afraid of needles you need to reconsider your motivation to use steroids in the first place. The steroid forum is under “Pharma” a very complicated word I know, which is probably why you didn’t find it. Read the stickies and threads on oral steroids. Now off you go!
i get the impression that inter-racial marriage is a controversial issue in at least some parts of the US and that people have strongly held views about it on both sides. mostly because i saw an oprah special once on this issue. i was surprised that it was an issue, but seems that it is. since your skin is lighter people probably assume that you are the product of an interracial marriage. that seems to upset some people.
i did a psychology class once where they broke things down into race (genetic) and ethnicity (cultural identification). there was also another category about how you looked to others (forget what that was called). people seemed most upset when those things come apart. e.g., when someone culturally identified with being of a genetic minority group when they didn’t look like they were. or when someone didn’t identify with being of a genetic minority group when they looked like they were (most upsetting to individuals in the minority).
similar issues arise for sex (biological), gender identification (how you appear, what you consider yourself to be), sexual orientation (sex / gender preference for sexual activity). people get all upset when these things don’t line up. particularly when appearance and identification come apart or sometimes when appearance and orientation come apart.
things are a bit different in NZ because inter-racial marriage isn’t considered a problem at all. there simply aren’t any full blooded maaori left (without some european ancestry). maaori with significant maaori genes come of varying degrees of color and most are very light compared to those of african descent. you do need to have genetic ancestry for maaori scholarships, though. this is an issue for some individuals who culturally identify with being maaori and are significantly involved with maaori language development or teaching or whatever who aren’t eligable for scholarships / grants because they lack maaori race genes. that is a bit controversial…
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
ct rockula:
when it comes to the question of whether or not i fit stereotypes, its a relative question, because as you know anyone that has spent significant amounts time hanging out and talking to black people on an individual level the popular stereotypes that whites associate with blacks are usually extreme and narrow minded and dont actually represent the black perspective.
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Ironically I can say this is the same as the narrow minded stereotypes that most black people like to paint of their white counterparts…narrow mindedness views of race, attitudes and perceptions are not just a white thing.
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never said it was. was only referencing personal experience and individual examples, but at the same time if youre white and you listen to rap and drive an escalade youre a ‘poser’ whereas if youre black, speak well, and educate yourself whites take away youre identity as black simply because you improved yourself, which sounds worse?
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Have a nice oar bath[/quote]
Que es ein oar bath?
[/quote]
Oh I’m sorry. I meant oat bath. With jasmine and lavander candles[/quote]
Glad you clarified that. I was about to get freaky with a row boat and a shower massager.
i had a friend who looked scottish. red hair, freckles, very pale skin, light blue eyes.
she was adopted by a maaori family at birth. she was raised on the marae.
she was a fluent speaker of maaori and was involved in assisting maaori (e.g., working for better living conditions, helping maaori get involved with sporting / academic activities etc).
she wasn’t eligable for grants to fund some of her work because it was considered that she wasn’t genetically maaori. even though she identified with being maaori.
i guess some people would say that it was inappropriate for a non (genetic) maaori person to be adopted by a maaori family.
she had a great childhood, though, and really loved her adoptive family. so that doesn’t seem right (to me anyway).
i think it is good that there are people like her that encourage people to re-think some of the stereotypes. i think maaori find her most shocking - they certainly don’t expect her to be fluent in the language or culturally maaori. i think it is a wonderful thing. eventually we will transcend the appearance view of race and refocus on culture / cultural identification.
i actually…
think that something a little bit similar might be going on with the whole eminem white person identifying as black kinda thing. there are cases of white people who mostly associate with black people and come to identify with being part of that cultural group. a similar thing happens for some non-maori people in nz who are raised in largely maaori housing areas and go on to work for / join maaori gangs at a young age…
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Well
A lot of people have a certain idea about how black people should behave. Do you fit any of those stereotypes? If you don’t you will be called white.
You know…oreo
Or is it mainly a skin color thing? Anytime I’ve encountered this its been because I was doing some people who are black aren’t known for doing.[/quote]
I had a fling with a guy who was Asian(mix of 3 different Asian races) and his mom would call him coconut. lol
[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
ct rockula:
when it comes to the question of whether or not i fit stereotypes, its a relative question, because as you know anyone that has spent significant amounts time hanging out and talking to black people on an individual level the popular stereotypes that whites associate with blacks are usually extreme and narrow minded and dont actually represent the black perspective.
[/quote]
Ironically I can say this is the same as the narrow minded stereotypes that most black people like to paint of their white counterparts…narrow mindedness views of race, attitudes and perceptions are not just a white thing.
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never said it was. was only referencing personal experience and individual examples, but at the same time if youre white and you listen to rap and drive an escalade youre a ‘poser’ whereas if youre black, speak well, and educate yourself whites take away youre identity as black simply because you improved yourself, which sounds worse?[/quote]
If this white person aligns himself with “black” stereotypes he is not only labeled a “poser” but often times labelled criminal, ignorant, uneducated and classless generally by non-blacks in my experience not simply a poser. Which is unfortunate.
It can also be said that the group that takes away the black individuals identity because of his ability and aspirations to, as you put it “speaks well and educate himself” is not solely perpetrated by whites but in many circumstances by people of their own race as well.
[quote]alexus wrote:
i had a friend who looked scottish. red hair, freckles, very pale skin, light blue eyes.
she was adopted by a maaori family at birth. she was raised on the marae.
she was a fluent speaker of maaori and was involved in assisting maaori (e.g., working for better living conditions, helping maaori get involved with sporting / academic activities etc).
she wasn’t eligable for grants to fund some of her work because it was considered that she wasn’t genetically maaori. even though she identified with being maaori.
i guess some people would say that it was inappropriate for a non (genetic) maaori person to be adopted by a maaori family.
she had a great childhood, though, and really loved her adoptive family. so that doesn’t seem right (to me anyway).
i think it is good that there are people like her that encourage people to re-think some of the stereotypes. i think maaori find her most shocking - they certainly don’t expect her to be fluent in the language or culturally maaori. i think it is a wonderful thing. eventually we will transcend the appearance view of race and refocus on culture / cultural identification.
i actually…
think that something a little bit similar might be going on with the whole eminem white person identifying as black kinda thing. there are cases of white people who mostly associate with black people and come to identify with being part of that cultural group. a similar thing happens for some non-maori people in nz who are raised in largely maaori housing areas and go on to work for / join maaori gangs at a young age…[/quote]
interesting… for myself i grew up in an affluent very white town and high school, i was considered to live in the poor area of the town, but i socialized with a lot of white people growing up, but in terms of identifying culturally with whites i was never allowed to do so nor ever wanted to based on how parents, teacher, and other people saw me and treated me.
in terms of eminem or the adoption example, no matter what he is white, he doesnt identify himself as black, he is simply more familiar and comfortable with black culture, that doesnt make you that race.
i am predominately black and identify with black culture more based on how i percieve society and how it percieves me.
True, Matty.
‘Urban Maaori’ is the name given to people of Maaori racial ancestry who live in a well to do area of north Auckland. Sending their kids to private schools… Going on to study Land Law and making a fortune in getting back land that was taken from Maaori (the government is offering reparation for what was taken under the Treaty of Waitangi). Going on to subdivide that land into sections for (mostly) rich white people.
‘Urban Maaori’ often aren’t fluent in the Maaori language and have often never set foot on a Marae. They don’t culturally identify as Maaori - they think their genetic ancestry is enough. But (arguably) they haven’t been the victim of racism etc that others of the race have been and thus they are a sham insofar as they think their racial ancestry entitles them to certain privileges (scholarships and grants etc).
TIs very controversial.
They are most loathed by those who are culturally and genetically Maaori. Sometimes kinda pitied, too. The emptiness that comes from a type-A lifestyle, sometimes… What happens when you trade in a social / community / environment view of the world and your place in it for a ‘me me me me mine’ individualist view.
Cultures that aren’t evolving are stagnant / dying.
Some say that ‘Urban Maaori’ are modern Maaori.
Others say that ‘Urban Maaori’ are assimilated Maaori who don’t deserve anything in the name of Maaori at all…
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]awesomeguy1234 wrote:
ct rockula:
when it comes to the question of whether or not i fit stereotypes, its a relative question, because as you know anyone that has spent significant amounts time hanging out and talking to black people on an individual level the popular stereotypes that whites associate with blacks are usually extreme and narrow minded and dont actually represent the black perspective.
[/quote]
Ironically I can say this is the same as the narrow minded stereotypes that most black people like to paint of their white counterparts…narrow mindedness views of race, attitudes and perceptions are not just a white thing.
[/quote]
never said it was. was only referencing personal experience and individual examples, but at the same time if youre white and you listen to rap and drive an escalade youre a ‘poser’ whereas if youre black, speak well, and educate yourself whites take away youre identity as black simply because you improved yourself, which sounds worse?[/quote]
If this white person aligns himself with “black” stereotypes he is not only labeled a “poser” but often times labelled criminal, ignorant, uneducated and classless generally by non-blacks in my experience not simply a poser. Which is unfortunate.
It can also be said that the group that takes away the black individuals identity because of his ability and aspirations to, as you put it “speaks well and educate himself” is not solely perpetrated by whites but in many circumstances by people of their own race as well.
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not true, blacks will undermine another blacks identity if that person is educating and improving themselves soley to separate themselves from black culture and not taking pride in themselves and their heritage. from my experience, whites will only accept a black person when they consider bettering themselves to be in spite of their own race and not an advancement therein.
if president obama displayed any shame, embarrassemnt, or indifference towards blacks or black issues he would definitely not be held up as an example of pride among blacks, he would be considered an ‘uncle tom’ or ‘uncle ruckus’ and would be met with anger and dissapointment.
blacks will undermine another blacks identity if that person is educating and improving themselves soley to separate themselves from black culture and not taking pride in themselves and their heritage.
Sometimes.
I think that is the key. There is so much diversity within the population of (insert racial group or biological sex group here) that one can’t make very many statements that are true of ALL or even MOST.
There is a confounding issue…
That of socio-economic class.
Race quite aside think about how people from an underprivileged socio-economic class sometimes feel about a person who makes it out of the poverty trap. Sometimes there is admiration and respect… But other times there is a sense of resentment like the person has sold out in some way. Especially if the person goes on to look upon their upbringing / the people still there with shame / condemnation.
Then think about the privileged person (of whatever race) who identifies with the underprivileged. On weekends or something. I think a lot of underprivileged people are rightly pretty dubious and pissed off about such a thing…