R.I.P. America 1776 - 2012

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
I guarantee I can find an exact same thread title with 2010 substituted for 2012 when Obamacare was passed. We managed to make it another 2 years. Tombstones don’t look as nice when you have to cross the dates out.[/quote]I usually am not like this with people as even my most ardent detractors will attest, but you really are a simpleton ya know that lol. Pure entertainment. =]
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LOL I feel like I have to break things down in simple terms to some of the people on here.

But come on man, do you not feel the thread title is a weee bit over-dramatic, especially considering the exact same “OMG WE ALL GONNA DIE” shit was being screamed from the rooftops a mere 2 years ago? LOL

edit[/quote]I’ve read about 20 of your posts from other threads too. Nevermind.
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LOL yeah buddy…everybody that disagrees with you is a moron…if only they could see the truth, they would be set free. I bit my tongue on your lunatic christian ramblings, I would have expected my opinions to be afforded the same courtesy.

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Are you going to leave the country Headhunter?

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:<<< LOL yeah buddy…everybody that disagrees with you is a moron… >>>[/quote]I have never called a single person in these forums a name demeaning their intelligence and I defy you to show where I did.[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:<<< if only they could see the truth, they would be set free. >>>[/quote]Absolutely. That’s what Jesus said.[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:<<< I bit my tongue on your lunatic christian ramblings, [/quote]Oh please. Feel free. [quote]VTBalla34 wrote:<<< I would have expected my opinions to be afforded the same courtesy. [/quote]I AM being courteous.

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Headhunter typed feverishy and assumingly:
“Bullshit. Romney knew you were in the tank for Obama. Obama supported the Dream Act so he had you. He didn’t do anything about immigration other than put on that farce, and you bought.”

Nice that you assume I’m of Mexican Descent mentioning the ‘Dream act’ (I’m not Mexican),
this is what the problem is sometimes, what you just did, lumping all Latinos
in with this Immigration issue, I have no Dog in that fight, it doesn’t affect me or any
of my Family at whatsoever, yet you automaticaly Go there with that issue…Why? So Thank you for illumninating
your false Knee-Jerk Ignorance, you just confirmed what part of problem is with alot of the Republican Party.

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[quote]Karado wrote:
Headhunter typed feverishy and assumingly:
“Bullshit. Romney knew you were in the tank for Obama. Obama supported the Dream Act so he had you. He didn’t do anything about immigration other than put on that farce, and you bought.”

Nice that you assume I’m of Mexican Descent mentioning the ‘Dream act’ (I’m not Mexican),
this is what the problem is sometimes, what you just did, lumping all Latinos
in with this Immigration issue, I have no Dog in that fight, it doesn’t affect me or any
of my Family at whatsoever, yet you automaticaly Go there with that issue…Why? So Thank you for illumninating
your false Knee-Jerk Ignorance, you just confirmed what part of problem is with alot of the Republican Party.
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Face facts…the first thing a latino thinks of when asked his ethnicity is ‘Mexican-American’ or ‘Cuban-American’ or whatever. Black people do the same thing: ‘African-American’ or ‘Black-American’. The group (tribe) comes before ‘American’.

How many white people say ‘Irish-American’ or ‘French-American’? Not many. The tribe is a lot less important to us. These people just say, “I’m an American.”

Romney appealed to you as an American. You couldn’t deal with that and felt slighted, because he didn’t pander to your tribe. You found it offensive that he didn’t address issues related to your tribe. He spoke to you as if you were simply ‘an American’. You didn’t like that.

What will be the result of this? Tribal warfare will arise. Politicians will keep appealing to tribes because they get power. Someone soon will figure out how to appeal to whites as a tribe. Sound familiar? Well, it worked for Hitler.

You idiots who insist on retaining tribal BS (such as Spanish in the schools and celebrating Cinco de Mayo or Black History Month) will not like it when the white tribe feels threatened. They will become pretty nasty and there’s still a lot more whites. Your tribes will turn this country into something I despise.

Thanks for fucking up a great country, tribalists…

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HeadHunter typed feverishly: “Thanks for fucking up a great country, tribalists…”

Hey Headhunter, you got the Guts to put a Sign on your Lawn that says that too? Or are you just ranting to a very limited audience here thinking it’s gonna make any kind of difference?

More than half of your state voted for Obama, so go bang on half your Neighbor’s Doors and tell THEM what the fuck they were thinkin’ if you really wanna Bullhorn your disappointment.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

Face facts…the first thing a latino thinks of when asked his ethnicity is ‘Mexican-American’ or ‘Cuban-American’ or whatever. [/quote]

Cuban exiles of Castro’s regime are amongst the staunchist conservatives and patriotic Americans in the country. They know first hand the results of socialism. Unfortunately they’re greatly outnumbered by Hispanic freeloaders.

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Karado,

Since you are Latino decent, what appealed to you about Obama ? You claim it wasn’t immigration, so what else was it ?

You lean Conservative, but Bam “evolved” with his position on gay marriage, so what made you pull Bam’s lever ?

Most Latinos I know go Left because they are usually low income, which favor Dem policies of free shit.

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It wasn’t so much about what appealed to us about Obama, so much as what was
unappealing about Romney, we are a Conservative people, You don’t get that, but we still get treated like
second-rate citzens, 44% voted for Bush last time as opposed to just
27% this time for Romney…Try getting 44% of Blacks to vote for ANY Republican Candidate BTW,
so give us credit where credit is due.

Bush was clear in his message, and positive, he went to ALL U.S. Spanish language stations and sold himself
to us…Romney didn’t, he was AWOL…and that difference was noticed and talked about.

I think maybe that was because he was confident he could win without our support because of the shitty
economy…big mistake.

We really try to assimilate, and we are among the hardest workers in the Country, we bust our
asses like everbody else here, have fought and died for this Country…and what do we
get in return?
Well, just look at the “language” used here…“tribes”, “Hispanic Freeloaders”, etc. how is one
supposed to try and assimilate with language and thoughts floating around like that
by Romney Supporters?

Not to deflect, but where’s the Anger toward Single Women? THEY leaned heaviliy for Obama, Over 70%
Of Asian Americans voted for Obama and they are in the Higher Income class!..and what about Blacks?
Why isn’t there a thread on why THEY are locked and loaded to the
Democratic Party well over 90%?..why is THAT never challenged?

So Conservatives need to watch their language regarding Hispanics, we ARE more fickle, we
ARE more complicated…An undeniable KEY to the next Republican President, that’s a certainty
that can’t be denied any longer, but with the disrespecting “language” that’s been thrown about here,
that may not happen anytime soon, so just keep it up with the “hispanic freeloader” language, and see where that takes you.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Why so sad? The Unions won![/quote]

Damn Unions , they are at the root of every American problem , to think the working class would get representation in Washington , Fucking Unions

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@HH funny , good stuff :slight_smile:

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[quote]Karado wrote:
HeadHunter typed feverishly: “Thanks for fucking up a great country, tribalists…”

Hey Headhunter, you got the Guts to put a Sign on your Lawn that says that too? Or are you just ranting to a very limited audience here thinking it’s gonna make any kind of difference?

More than half of your state voted for Obama, so go bang on half your Neighbor’s Doors and tell THEM what the fuck they were thinkin’ if you really wanna Bullhorn your disappointment.
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Obama appealed to tribal thinking…the tribe of hispanics, the tribe of black people. He also convinced young people that tribalism is the future. He made gay marriage a point for the young and stupid.

Going to start a thread on this.

The consequences of tribalism are NOT going to be something you like.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

Face facts…the first thing a latino thinks of when asked his ethnicity is ‘Mexican-American’ or ‘Cuban-American’ or whatever. [/quote]

Cuban exiles of Castro’s regime are amongst the staunchist conservatives and patriotic Americans in the country. They know first hand the results of socialism. Unfortunately they’re greatly outnumbered by Hispanic freeloaders.[/quote]

But they are still ‘Cuban-Americans’.

As long as people think of their tribe and not as Americans, politicians will play on that.

Why do you think things like the Great Society program were invented? Because LBJ cared about the poor? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! He was appealing to a tribe. He created tribal thinking. This was disasterous to black families especially – 70% of black kids are now born to a single mom.

And the tribalism goes on.

In formalizing tribalism, Obama is quite possibly the most evil person to ever become president, with the possible exception of Woodrow Wilson. The destruction unleashed by Obama has opened the floodgates. Just like we are suffering under Wilson’s Federal Reserve and IRS, we will suffer under Obama’s tribalism. Soon the white tribe will react. Action → reaction.

It truly is the end of a great country. We will now become a nation of warring tribes.

Goodnight, dear country…

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[quote]Karado wrote:

Bush was clear in his message, and positive, he went to ALL U.S. Spanish language stations and sold himself
to us…Romney didn’t, he was AWOL…and that difference was noticed and talked about.

I think maybe that was because he was confident he could win without our support because of the shitty
economy…big mistake.

We really try to assimilate, and we are among the hardest workers in the Country, we bust our
asses like everbody else here, have fought and died for this Country…and what do we
get in return?
Well, just look at the “language” used here…“tribes”, “Hispanic Freeloaders”, etc. how is one
supposed to try and assimilate with language and thoughts floating around like that
by Romney Supporters?

Not to deflect, but where’s the Anger toward Single Women? THEY leaned heaviliy for Obama, Over 70%
Of Asian Americans voted for Obama and they are in the Higher Income class!..and what about Blacks?
Why isn’t there a thread on why THEY are locked and loaded to the
Democratic Party well over 90%?..why is THAT never challenged?

So Conservatives need to watch their language regarding Hispanics, we ARE more fickle, we
ARE more complicated…An undeniable KEY to the next Republican President, that’s a certainty
that can’t be denied any longer, but with the disrespecting “language” that’s been thrown about here,
that may not happen anytime soon, so just keep it up with the “hispanic freeloader” language, and see where that takes you.

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I started to delete some, just to focus on your main points, but your whole post is rife with tribalism.

Okay then…let’s talk tribes. You want Spanish language in your neighborhoods. Mexicans celebrate Cinco De Mayo. (How should we celebrate July 4th in Cuba or Mexico?) Poor Hispanics come here and immediately sign up for food stamps, welfare, and put their kids (who don’t speak English) into taxpayer funded schools, where the kids gang up together and beat on the white kids.

Then, with no roots in the country whatsoever, you get to vote and decide the future of the country by voting for a man who appeals to your tribe. No matter about Benghazi or Fast and Furious or GITMO or breaking just about every promise that he made. “Yeah! Obama’s for me! He’s for my tribe! He talked to us on the radio! He wants the Dream Act! Yeah!!”

And you wonder why I write what I do. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Why so sad? The Unions won![/quote]

Damn Unions , they are at the root of every American problem , to think the working class would get representation in Washington , Fucking Unions
[/quote]

Like :slight_smile:

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Karado,

Since you are Latino decent, what appealed to you about Obama ? You claim it wasn’t immigration, so what else was it ?

You lean Conservative, but Bam “evolved” with his position on gay marriage, so what made you pull Bam’s lever ?

Most Latinos I know go Left because they are usually low income, which favor Dem policies of free shit. [/quote]

Most latino voters I know that are old tend to have a conservative and religious slant. My grandparents for example who both passed LOVED Reagan. You know what though? My grandmother would chase Mormons off our porch like they were stray dogs and would always mutter racist shit under her breath about, “those negros.” A lot of old latinos are like this…

Young latino’s are everywhere and inbetween, but the one constant I see around here in Cali is that most have at least two jobs. You can talk trash about latino’s being left because of free shit, but working two minimum wage jobs because 40-60 hours a week just doesn’t cut it. Most latino’s I know hustle and work their asses off, pick your crops, raise your kids and at the end of the day have very little to take home, and very little to show for their work. This was the life of my grandfather, he picked lemons, dug graves, and fought wars. And then you turn around and talk shit about free stuff from the government. Some mo’ bullshit. I know there are examples, but there are examples of lazy asses of every ethnic category.

How about this? Consider why the 40 hour work week was implemented, then ask which people actually make a living wage. Working an extra job, that should mean socking money away to put your kids through school, not just enough to get bye.

When you say Latino’s voted for free shit, it’s no different than simply saying they are lazy. If that’s what you intend to say, you can go suck an egg.

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HeadHunter typed Assumingly once again:…“with no roots in the country whatsoever, you get to vote and decide the future of the country by voting for a man who appeals to your tribe.”

Here’s a riddle… You’re correct, I don’t have roots in this Country, I was not even born in the States, yet I’m automatically a U.S. Citizen anyway from Birth, 'same goes for ALL my Relatives too going back almost a Century, crushing your IGNORANT ASSUMPTION I have anything to do with your pre-concieved
notion that I have any interest with “Immigration”, “Cinco De Mayo”, or even the “Dream Act”.
you really are an assuming little Douchbag who was wrong on every count, aren’t you?

LOLOLOL…I got the last laugh…disscusion over on my end Ohio Boy.

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[quote]Karado wrote:
HeadHunter typed Assumingly once again:…“with no roots in the country whatsoever, you get to vote and decide the future of the country by voting for a man who appeals to your tribe.”

Here’s a riddle… You’re correct, I don’t have roots in this Country, I was not even born in the States, yet I’m automatically a U.S. Citizen anyway from Birth, 'same goes for ALL my Relatives too going back almost a Century, crushing your IGNORANT ASSUMPTION I have anything to do with your pre-concieved
notion that I have any interest with “Immigration”, “Cinco De Mayo”, or even the “Dream Act”.
you really are an assuming little Douchbag who was wrong on every count, aren’t you?

LOLOLOL…I got the last laugh…disscusion over on my end Ohio Boy.[/quote]

And THIS^^…THIS…is what the libs let into the country, so the libs can get power.

The people who thought up this stuff should be imprisoned. Most likely, the white tribe will shoot them all (the libs).

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
How many white people say ‘Irish-American’ or ‘French-American’? Not many. The tribe is a lot less important to us. These people just say, “I’m an American.”
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Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously? I hear people say that all the time. Maybe you need to step away from the keyboard and get out into reality once in a while.

james

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
But they are still ‘Cuban-Americans’.

As long as people think of their tribe and not as Americans, politicians will play on that.

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You do know that placing a qualifier ahead of American, in this case Cuban, is something that “American”-Americans are responsible for? Those unhyphenated Americans made us choose to qualify our status as Americans. This country has been historically and pathologically averse to the assimilation and integration of the Other and thus, chooses labels to set “real” Americans apart from <insert ethnicity/national origin/race>-Americans. In this case we chose the labels because the ones they would have chosen were either not very flattering (a slur) or inaccurate (the nationality of the country our families came from such as Italian, Polish, Greek, etc, all without the added American) but we had to be labeled nonetheless. In Italy they call me American. In America, where I was born and have lived most of my life and where I even serve in the military, I’m an Italian-American or even just plain Italian.

So since we couldn’t or can’t call ourselves American without a “real” American clearing his throat or rolling his eyes (or worse) we had to, and some still have to, settle for referring to ourselves as hyphenated Americans. It’s better than referring to ourselves using the various slurs that used to be stated with impunity. It ends up sticking because we don’t want to give those who tried, and those who still try, the satisfaction of thinking they shamed us into denying our heritages. Once the “real” Americans try and make us hyphenated Americans feel like we are not as real as they are (and on my mother’s side my roots in this country predate the Revolutionary War but alas, my surname ends in a vowel) we react by asserting our pride in our heritage and turning the label they made us place on ourselves, that they thought would make us feel inferior, into a badge of honor. And we expect and demand that THEIR politicians pander to us just as they pander to any other group. We will be included in the process and our influence will be felt…like it or not. We will also cling to our hyphenated qualifier to remind us and “them” that we were never supposed to join the club. We don’t want to forget the past and more importantly we don’t want them to either.

BTW, more “real” Americans celebrate Cinco de mayo in America than Mexican-Americans.