I quit TRT about a week around the 26th of April. I’m 28 years old and was injecting around 100mg Test E per week. I do not want to be on TRT anymore.
I began Clomid at 50mg per day (I know you are meant to wait 4 weeks for esters to clear). I then added Nolvadex at 20mg per day.
I have been on 50/20 Clomid and Nolva basically since I came off, and got bloods drawn 7 and a half weeks after the last shot. The results came back as follows:
Testosterone: 15.0 nmol/L [Range 8.6 - 29] (this is 433 ng/dL in the American units of measure)
Estrogen: <44 pmol/L (Below low reference limit)[Range 95 - 233]
LH: 3.7 U/L [Range 1.7 - 8.6]
FSH: 1.7 U/L [Range 1.5 - 12.4]
SHBG: 61.2 nmol/L (Above range)[Range 18.3 - 54.1]
Please advise on where to go from here?
For the record, my testosterone levels before using roids were around the same level or even lower in some instances, so for me that T level is pretty normal.
I would investigate why your SHGB is so high. Usually, guys who do TRT and blast their SHGB is low to below range. With that high of an SHGB your Free T will be low.
I would google causes of low SHGB and start your search for reasons. Good Luck.
I will check into this, I saw the most common reasons but they appear not to apply to me. I do not have hyperthyroidism and my liver function was decent. I told my GP that I am on Clomid and Nolva and I think he thought that might be why and asked that I come off.
But I suspect it may be a bit too early to quit the PCT meds.
Regarding the rest, I am wondering if this all seems a good omen for recovery. How long should I stay on Clomid and Nolva for? What is up with the crashed estrogen?
I am taking Tamoxifen right now to try and raise my SHGB. It was suggested by a member here.
Do to 7 years of TRT and two blasts a year my SHGB is setting at 6
I have never done a PCT but I though I had read you run them for 5-6 weeks.
The PCT could also be why your E2 is low. It sucks they can’t tell you the exact number. <44 must be the low end of that type of test. In American we can ask for an E2 sensitive test which is designed for men. The other is designed for women who run very high E2 normally.
The reason I say that is my sweet spot for E2 is 20-28 in fact anything over 40 and I put on water weight and get moody.
Since your LH and FSH are showing up in your blood test I would say your PCT was successful. It might be worth stopping the PCT and wait some period of time for the Clomid and Nolva to clear your system. Knowing their half lifes would help you determine how long to wait before doing another mini blood test.
Are you experiencing any of the signs of low E2?
Popping and or clicking shoulders, elbows?
Do your knees and shoulders feel dry?
Do you feel down or depressed more than normal without any real reason to be depressed, like losing a girlfriend or your job?
Still on the SERMs when the bloods were drawn. The testosterone esters will be clear from my system but I still have SERMs in me. Should I come off of them now or does it look like I need to be on longer?
So all you’re seeing is a result of the meds and not an indicator that your HPTa is back to normal. I think you should come off and retest in 3-4 weeks. That will be your true reading
I think since you have been on a long time, I would stay on a SERM longer. Then I would taper it off over time. After completely off of 4 weeks retest.
swoops I don’t know. I mentioned I had never done a PCT. I was basically tossing out some brainstorming ideas until someone with PCT knowledge like yourself came along.
I will just tell you what I would do. I would run Nolva at 40 mg/day for 2 weeks, 20 mg/day for 4 weeks, 10 mg/day for 2 weeks, then 5 mg/day for 2 weeks. Then I would stop and retest.
I would just use Nolva. Both Nolva and Clomid can raise SHBG, so using more than you need may not be a great idea. If SHBG goes up, generally Free T goes down.
I’m not really sure either, I never checked back when I still did PCT. but but I saw one guy post numbers from Clomid & his LH was like way high on it. Maybe he just responded really well
