[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
That sounds like a decent cycle to ‘test the waters’. Dbol is a good replacement for test in this case as well. I thoroughly enjoyed 50mg tren and 20mg dbol. More tren would have been better though.
Have you lost hair on cycles with testosterone? Actually lost hair. Shedding is common with most steroids but that hair seems to grow back quickly for a lot of people. [/quote]
good to hear. so you agree this is strong enough to feel the effects?
Its strong enough to make good strength gains. 4-5 weeks is not enough time for appreciable mass. Tren kills my appetite as well so that only compounds that problem. It may not be long enough to experience some of the other sides, like insomnia, shitty cardio etc. But you dont want to experience bad side effects. It wont be a waste is what I’m saying. There will be SOME benefit
Even 25mg of tren ED can have a noticeable effect. That kind of dose doesn’t bulmt appetite. If you want high dose tren with a good appetite, then simply run low dose test with it.
[quote]bushidobadboy2 wrote:
Sadly my PMs have been turned off for me (without consent) by the Mods here. My account was set to private by the same person(s).
That was why I opened a second acount, however the same thing happened again. Again, without my consent.[/quote]
I did wonder, I actually sent you a PM asking about the reason for the new account (assuming it was because your PMs weren’t working with the old one)!
Not sure why a mod or mods decided to do that, in my opinion it is only hurting the people who come to you for advice.
[quote]saps wrote:
Now equally true low test has a few things it needs managed as well. On just 200mg/wk my estrogen borderlines on being too low. So libido issues for me can arise on this protocol. So I acquire and use ancillary product to combat that. And of course those ancillary product bring with them new concerns and sides. Again its all about trade-offs and such. Invariably, we end up taking from Peter to give to Paul in some sense.
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What ancillaries are we talking?
Do you mean caber?
You mentioned masteron being great for your libido
I was on 2wk on/off cycle of 50mg test/tren ED - libido was meh, not like the 75mg test only from previous cycle.
On this level i had NO side effects on my blood pressure OR my cardio - my anaerobic conditioning during my Muay Thai classes was BEASTLY.
So would 50mg test/tren/mast leave one with a very robust 3x a day libido?
Yeah tren can be rough on the libido. Ancillaries referred to include caber and tadafil. Part of it is 200mg/wk of test does not give me quite enough estrogen when paired with 700mg of tren. But anymore test than that and my tren sides are too harsh.
I cannot answer if the trifecta would give you personally a robust libido. It’d be better than test tren where you said your libido was meh. If that was more a concern I’d honestly leave the tren alone. My libido is better off tren than on. Mast test is the best combo in that regard IMO. Like everything prioritize.
While we are here asking for advice, I have a question about AAS use for acne control/reduction (yea call me vain). Has anyone witnessed or experienced a decrease in the amount of cystic non-inflammatory acne with the use of a 5-alpha-reductase? I found only one report on it with 5 mgs of Proscar per day… for women.
From what I know, it’s DHT that is a major driver of sebum production, though not the only one. Given that I’m a shiny fucker especially on the face with a lot of oil yet low amounts of red infected lesion but high amounts of the white cystic non-inflammed type, leads me to suspect that high amounts of DHT is the culprit.
Personally, I’ve been dealing with this type of acne all my life as well as really oily skin. Additionally, if I had to choose between Proscar or Accutane to control my acne, I’d rather treat the problem rather than the symptom with a possible boost in free T to boot.
Please let me know if this is sound at all or I’m an idiot.
[quote]ahu2468 wrote:
While we are here asking for advice, I have a question about AAS use for acne control/reduction (yea call me vain). Has anyone witnessed or experienced a decrease in the amount of cystic non-inflammatory acne with the use of a 5-alpha-reductase? I found only one report on it with 5 mgs of Proscar per day… for women.
From what I know, it’s DHT that is a major driver of sebum production, though not the only one. Given that I’m a shiny fucker especially on the face with a lot of oil yet low amounts of red infected lesion but high amounts of the white cystic non-inflammed type, leads me to suspect that high amounts of DHT is the culprit.
Personally, I’ve been dealing with this type of acne all my life as well as really oily skin. Additionally, if I had to choose between Proscar or Accutane to control my acne, I’d rather treat the problem rather than the symptom with a possible boost in free T to boot.
Please let me know if this is sound at all or I’m an idiot. [/quote]
Try taking 5-10grams of fish oil 3x a day. 40,000 iu of vitamin D a week. Remove as much milk from your diet as possible. In the case of protein powders, the more processed the powder the better, i.e. hydrosolates and isolate. You could even switch to pea, and or rice protein. I prefer a blend of both instead of using whey.
I’ve dealt with acne on my shoulders and middle back all my life. The above has gotten it under control, with an occasional flare up when I digest a lot of dairy. I think you’ll be amazed how well the above works, so don’t knock it untill you try it.
Some of the guys think my acne flared up cuz of extra estrogen, which may be true, but I also ran out of a lot of my supplements at the end of my cycle. So I haven’t been on fish oil, and I bought a cheap protein from Sam’s Club, and I think if I hadn’t, my acne would of been fine.
[quote]ahu2468 wrote:
While we are here asking for advice, I have a question about AAS use for acne control/reduction (yea call me vain). Has anyone witnessed or experienced a decrease in the amount of cystic non-inflammatory acne with the use of a 5-alpha-reductase? I found only one report on it with 5 mgs of Proscar per day… for women.
From what I know, it’s DHT that is a major driver of sebum production, though not the only one. Given that I’m a shiny fucker especially on the face with a lot of oil yet low amounts of red infected lesion but high amounts of the white cystic non-inflammed type, leads me to suspect that high amounts of DHT is the culprit.
Personally, I’ve been dealing with this type of acne all my life as well as really oily skin. Additionally, if I had to choose between Proscar or Accutane to control my acne, I’d rather treat the problem rather than the symptom with a possible boost in free T to boot.
Please let me know if this is sound at all or I’m an idiot. [/quote]
Try taking 5-10grams of fish oil 3x a day. 40,000 iu of vitamin D a week. Remove as much milk from your diet as possible. In the case of protein powders, the more processed the powder the better, i.e. hydrosolates and isolate. You could even switch to pea, and or rice protein. I prefer a blend of both instead of using whey.
I’ve dealt with acne on my shoulders and middle back all my life. The above has gotten it under control, with an occasional flare up when I digest a lot of dairy. I think you’ll be amazed how well the above works, so don’t knock it untill you try it.
Some of the guys think my acne flared up cuz of extra estrogen, which may be true, but I also ran out of a lot of my supplements at the end of my cycle. So I haven’t been on fish oil, and I bought a cheap protein from Sam’s Club, and I think if I hadn’t, my acne would of been fine.[/quote]
Thanks Ferox. However, I am already implementing the said protocol that you have laid out. WPI, Flame-out as well as around 40k - 60k IU of Vit. D3 are part of my daily routine. I avoid milk and cottege cheese now like it’s poison. I love the stuff though… I really miss cottage cheese lol
[quote]saps wrote:
The T-Nation servers were crashing due to excessive PM requests for the naked butler[/quote]
On that note, I have decided to return to using my ‘old’ account, since I can’t recieve PMs on either account anyway, and apparently my new avvy hurts morepains’ eyes, haha.
BBB[/quote]
I was about to tell saps to please not encourage said activity then i saw this…i am touched at your concern for my vision and that of heterosexual males everywhere.
[quote]ferox wrote:
I hate cottage cheese, but sorry to hear about your troubles. I thought I had it bad :-/
Also anyone interested in the dangers of SERMS, google " “the dark side” serms "[/quote]
OMFG!!
Tamoxifen causes testicular cancer???
"The damaging evidence from many early rat studies showed severely toxic effects, including the development of cancer in the liver, uterus, or testes upon tamoxifen administration. (30-34,41) "
EDIT: Link removed by mods
it’s the lesser of two evils. The point of treatment is to prolong life, otherwise a person is going to die. So if a drug will prolong life in long run, even if it will cause other cancers, it will be used. The drug is hardly used anymore because there are other treatments out there that are either A.) a better treatment or B.) not as much negative evidence against it.
[quote]saps wrote:
The T-Nation servers were crashing due to excessive PM requests for the naked butler[/quote]
On that note, I have decided to return to using my ‘old’ account, since I can’t recieve PMs on either account anyway, and apparently my new avvy hurts morepains’ eyes, haha.
BBB[/quote]
I was about to tell saps to please not encourage said activity then i saw this…i am touched at your concern for my vision and that of heterosexual males everywhere. [/quote]
ROFL. I love you two guys
