Cool guys don’t claim to be God if they’re not. Liars and nutcases might do that though. Might claim to be the sacrifice for the sin of the world to satisfy His own offended holy Father and then allow themselves to be brutally tortured and executed on their behalf. If somebody does that and ain’t who they say they are then that ain’t cool. That’s insane. If you think insane people are cool then you’ll be right in line with today’s mentality.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Cool guys don’t claim to be God if they’re not. Liars and nutcases might do that though. Might claim to be the sacrifice for the sin of the world to satisfy His own offended holy Father and then allow themselves to be brutally tortured and executed on their behalf. If somebody does that and ain’t who they say they are then that ain’t cool. That’s insane. If you think insane people are cool then you’ll be right in line with today’s mentality. [/quote]
Just messin’ with ya, T!
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I am indeed a fool for Jesus. Captivated by the God of the bible who’s Word it is and very willingly so. Who’s fool are you?[/quote]
More precisely, you’re captivated by what the dozens of well intentioned men spent a whole 4 years figuring out was the REAL Jesus; every other Christian disagreeing with the Calvanist clique believes in a fake Jesus.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]davidcox1 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
“Most atheists I know, including me, say that there is good and bad.”
This is the statement I was commenting on. If you think good and bad exist, you aren’t atheist.
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You cannot make it so by declaration. I assert that there is nothing inherently theistic about good and bad. A dog knows what behavior is acceptable and what is not without any theological basis for its behavior. [/quote]
Okay, I claim there is nothing theistic about god. Doesn’t make it so.
Good and bad are entirely abstract concepts. They are not a part of the natural world. They do not exist in any tangible form. You can accept them conditionally with the acknowledgment that they don’t in fact exist as more than an evolved chemical reaction. Anything more than that is believing in the supernatural. Meaning they aren’t part of the natural universe any more than god.
You guys are blind to your own faith.
A dog has no concept of right or wrong. Its’ behavior is evolved and learned, having nothing to do with the supernatural concepts of good and evil.
Any language assigning worth is reference to ideas and concepts that have no basis in reality. A true atheist either shouldn’t use them or should only use them conditionally.[/quote]
Primates respond to in-group authority, don’t tolerate theft, show marked affection to their young, who in turn show preference to and care for their parents. Did God pattern such echoes of our refined sense of morality into the natural world? What purpose does it serve?
What is your take?
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Cool guys don’t claim to be God if they’re not. Liars and nutcases might do that though. Might claim to be the sacrifice for the sin of the world to satisfy His own offended holy Father and then allow themselves to be brutally tortured and executed on their behalf. If somebody does that and ain’t who they say they are then that ain’t cool. That’s insane. If you think insane people are cool then you’ll be right in line with today’s mentality. [/quote]
Perhaps he knew that he had an important message to spread and realized that the easiest and most efficient way to do so was to tell all of the gullible clowns around him that he was the son of God.
Either way, I can forgive him some of that drivel in light of the fact that many of his moralistic teachings have tried, sometimes successfully, to temper man’s cruelty over the centuries.
Have you ever read even one of the gospels? Jesus did not bring any moralistic message. He was and is the message. The savior, the Christ, the promise made to Abraham almost 2000 years before His birth and reiterated many times and in many ways. He stood in His own synagogue and read from the prophet Isaiah concerning Himself and told those people that HE was the fulfillment of that prophecy right from day one of His ministry.
He also told them right there about how they would reject Him and be rejected by their God and how the gentiles would receive Him. for which they tried to throw Him off a cliff. That was the first day of His public ministry. Wadda peacemaker.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Cool guys don’t claim to be God if they’re not. Liars and nutcases might do that though. Might claim to be the sacrifice for the sin of the world to satisfy His own offended holy Father and then allow themselves to be brutally tortured and executed on their behalf. If somebody does that and ain’t who they say they are then that ain’t cool. That’s insane. If you think insane people are cool then you’ll be right in line with today’s mentality. [/quote]
Perhaps he knew that he had an important message to spread and realized that the easiest and most efficient way to do so was to tell all of the gullible clowns around him that he was the son of God.
Either way, I can forgive him some of that drivel in light of the fact that many of his moralistic teachings have tried, sometimes successfully, to temper man’s cruelty over the centuries.[/quote]
Or maybe the words attributed to him weren’t really his.
Im a highschool student and an atheist. Whether I talk about being an atheist freely depends on who I am with. My parents are very religious, so I keep it a secret from them( and anyone else that goes to my church.) However I do not hesitate at all when I am talking to my friends or when I meet a new person. Ive also found that people seem to simply be afraid of the word “atheist”. I get a much better response if I say, “I dont really believe in God” rather than, “I am an atheist”.
My ex was a christian. After a year and a half, I decided to finally tell her I’m an atheist. She broke up with me on the spot.
[quote]Raging_Teddy wrote:
My ex was a christian. After a year and a half, I decided to finally tell her I’m an atheist. She broke up with me on the spot.[/quote]She should have never been involved with you in the first place if you were not living a throughly credible testimony. Were you 2 married?
[quote]Raging_Teddy wrote:
My ex was a christian. After a year and a half, I decided to finally tell her I’m an atheist. She broke up with me on the spot.[/quote]
Sounds like what Jesus would have done . . . not! What’s with trying to convert you? Sad that people are so intolerant.
Weird.
You would think that someone who takes their faith that seriously would try and find out if their significant other shared the same beliefs a bit earlier on in the relationship.
[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
Weird.
You would think that someone who takes their faith that seriously would try and find out if their significant other shared the same beliefs a bit earlier on in the relationship.
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lol agreed, unless the guy was just blatantly pretending to be religious, in which case he’s definitely the asshole.
[quote]Raging_Teddy wrote:
My ex was a christian. After a year and a half, I decided to finally tell her I’m an atheist. She broke up with me on the spot.[/quote]
Oh well, if I believed a womans reasoning for why she breaks up with someone I would probably be more impressed.
Chances are she just wanted someone else to stick it in her pooper.
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
Weird.
You would think that someone who takes their faith that seriously would try and find out if their significant other shared the same beliefs a bit earlier on in the relationship.
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lol agreed, unless the guy was just blatantly pretending to be religious, in which case he’s definitely the asshole.[/quote]
I told her right away I wasn’t Christian or anything else. At first, it wasn’t that big of a deal. Then, she started trying to convert me, and I told her I’m an atheist and she was wasting her time and offending me.
She told me I was immoral (everyone who knows me had a good laugh at that one) and that I’m going to hell and that she couldn’t stand to be with me anymore.
No, we weren’t married.
Well, though she eventually did the right thing, she certainly didn’t handle the situation in a godly manner. Assuming your version is the truth. No offense, but how do we really know?
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Well, though she eventually did the right thing, she certainly didn’t handle the situation in a godly manner. Assuming your version is the truth. No offense, but how do we really know? [/quote]
You don’t, and I’m having neither means nor intentions to prove it.
I will say this: My post is a VERY short summary of what was really a long, drawn out clusterfuck of a breakup involving breaking up, her having second, third, and fourth thoughts, and eventually coming out with that gem I told you about in my previous post and wasting a solid two months of my life.
[quote]Raging_Teddy wrote:
[quote]smh23 wrote:
[quote]Simon Adebisi wrote:
Weird.
You would think that someone who takes their faith that seriously would try and find out if their significant other shared the same beliefs a bit earlier on in the relationship.
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lol agreed, unless the guy was just blatantly pretending to be religious, in which case he’s definitely the asshole.[/quote]
I told her right away I wasn’t Christian or anything else. At first, it wasn’t that big of a deal. Then, she started trying to convert me, and I told her I’m an atheist and she was wasting her time and offending me.
She told me I was immoral (everyone who knows me had a good laugh at that one) and that I’m going to hell and that she couldn’t stand to be with me anymore.
No, we weren’t married.[/quote]
Thank your lucky stars you got outta that one brother.