Just some drive-by appreciation: thanks for all the time you invest and information you share here @Paul_Carter.
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Yeap
My pleasure, guys!
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Gee,
I wonder what CT gets named if I get called upon by you guys for having stated just the same as written in the article?!
Quote goes experts on tap not on top. Nassim Taleb, Hayek, and Joe Henrich talk about bottom up processes to knowledge and how we learn through trial and error and tinkering not through a top down academia approach. Bodybuilders have been doing the whole bruce lee absorb what is useful discard what is not and tinkering through trial and error.
Bet this is coming to exercise science as did psychology, medical science and nutrition John Ioannidis Aims His Bazooka at Nutrition Science | American Council on Science and Health
Comment from that article…
Wait a minute? Are you saying that nutrition research is largely driven by advocates with predetermined notions of what they want to find (subjecting themselves pretty heavily to confirmation bias), that may of these studies fail to distinguish between correlation and causation, and that there is highly selective reporting of results? I’m floored!!! (sarcasm intended, in case that wasn’t clear).
NOW…apply that to the training studies done about volume and the people pushing it, and there’s your answer to their bullshit.
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Exactly
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It would be interesting to hear someone like Mark Dugdale chime in on this topic. An in the trenches perspective on high intensity training, longevity and injury prevention and accumulation. I wonder if all the intensity techniques should be saved for machines to err on the side of caution or used on barbell lifts after preexhaustion has occurred…
I work in a world full studies. Actually everything I do from a day to day bases has a study or evedenced based practice to back it up. However let me point out a few false hoods in my field. (Physical therapy)
There was a some studies put out about 12-13 years ago basically stating if you hold and injured limb and basically “pulled negative energy out” and “put positive energy in” to the wound or injury, (was labeled as red and blue energy which is probably just a Star Wars reference) it would heal faster. A class mate of mine actually went to one of these clinics and was told by her CI to set and hold a ladies broken hand and to essentially pull the red energy out and put blue energy in…I’m not making this crap up. They literally charged Medicare for this crap.
I don’t know if ppl are getting my point and it’s a crazy thought that perhaps ppl could interpret a study to see what they want and even lead the study the direction they want. Because perhaps a study contradicting what they have been selling for a decade would be devastating to their business.
Just like those crazy granola therapists that think holding a person injury and wishing it will go away, ppl are holding on to what they have been selling for years. But I’ve always said if you want to find a study that says huffing cheetah farts will make you run faster I’m sure you could.
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Idk
If this will get pulled it is on YouTube but it is from body building.com
If so I’m sorry. But if you watch this you’ll see what level of intensity you need to do this and honestly it’s fast. This is really the only good
Thing I ever found on that site personally. I’ve ran this exact program and you gotta go in with more focus day in and out.
But as you see they use free weights for soem special techniques and I think Dorian says they just kinda switch them around on different days.
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@Paul_Carter please excuse my ignorance, but Active motion incline press?
Cheers for all the advice!
Yeah it’s active motion cable machines. I think that’s what they are called. Now that I think about it, it could be something else…I’ll verify next time I’m in the gym. It’s today’s video on my IG.
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Cheers Paul…!
Heres Dugdale talking about HIT My Years with HIT - Elite FTS | EliteFTS
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This is hilarious - 3 weeks ago I hopped on the free motion cable shoulder press at my gym (exact same one you’re on) and found the angle of the cables was already far too forward in front of my body to effectively hit my shoulders, so I scooted my butt forward, leaned back, and hit it as a high incline press!
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Great thread but have a question
How would reducing rest times as a form of progression factor into growth?
I was thinking of something like Gironda’s 8x8 where you reduce rest periods?
I implemented the 350 method about five weeks ago and love it
I really see a visual difference in biceps,triceps and shoulders. I think it’s a combo of pushing myself more and rest. Totally proves Paul’s point since I Have gone up about 20/30 pounds on some movements while only doing six sets a week per these body parts (2 350 style workouts a week)
I programmed my main movements with straight sets so my
upper day was:
Incline press 5x5
Press behind neck 350
Landmine floor Press 350
Upright row wide grip 350
Meadows row 350
Lower/arms
Trap bar dead’s 5x5
Landmine hack squat 350
Chest supported row 350
Curls 350
Tricep ext 350
I worked out M/W/F and rotated above
(I actually tried dead’s as a 350 method and made crazy progress for about three weeks then bottomed out energy wise)
My 5x5 movements haven’t budged and I have never made progress following that type of loading
I was thinking about switching those to a 8x8 for incline and 6x6 for dead’s and using rest intervals to gain some progression and leaving remainder as is due to progress I am making
Goal purely aesthetics and fat loss
Any thoughts on the switch or should I keep rolling due to gains coming?
That was a good read. That’s very similar to what I’m starting Monday minus the repping 500 on bench part.
So you’re making gains right now…and are thinking about changing things up…
Does anyone not see that this is common, and that it’s a huge problem?
I see it
I probably over thunk myself into making a common mistake of training ADD
I’m doing ten movements and making progress on eight and focused on two not improving instead of eight making progress
I will enroll in training variety anonymous and continue to stick to what I was doing