OK guys I’ll probably say who it is if we can recognize it’s not a dig at the guy. I just found it very coincidental.
The guy puts out great info and good messages and he seems like a good guy himself. I’ve followed him for years and he even wrote an article about quality vs. quantity a long time ago.
LOL I do what I can, man. I don’t set out to intentionally try to prove what people are espousing is bullshit. I just feel like people need to be checked when it smells like bullshit, i.e. doesn’t seem practical or even logical regardless of the data. That’s a huge part that goes unchecked with the evidence based crew.
“here’s a study. It’s science so sit down and accept it.”
Well, no. I do not accept bullshit between two slices of bread as a legit sandwich. I’ve had many sandwiches in my life and that isn’t like any of them, nor do I think it should pass as one.
That’s something I covered in the last podcast. Just because you point something out about someone doesn’t mean you’re talking shit on them. Jeff Nippard makes those videos where he talks about how his routines are “science based” by using EMG. But EMG is really POOR science to use. That’s not me talking shit on Jeff, it’s me talking shit on the method he’s using. There’s a difference.
Oh no. People already have a poor understanding of training and nutrition on average here in Italy, much more so than in the US. This will only make things worse
Usually the problem with studies is that people swallow their results mindlessly. They don’t think of the possible causes behind such results. They see studies showing completely opposite results and they take whichever is more suitable for them. That’s how Schonefeld infamous volume study is so often quoted and that’s how missinformation is spreaded.
Seriously, there are a lot of myths regarding muscle building and fat loss and most of them was cause by people taking some “science” literally and not actually thinking.
Anyway, I am referring to Jason Ferrugia. He actually wrote an article on here about this topic over a decade ago, and as I said, his info is very good.
Bret Contreras put up a similar IG post this week too.
I had 2 other videos pop up as well that we’re posted by YouTube fitness guys. Pretty much echoing each other. Basically intensity > than volume. So yeah apparently its Getting traction. I’m sure there will be some opposition just haven’t seen it yet.
Bret has been harping on the junk volume stuff for a while. He’s not a big believer in all of that high volume bullshit. In fact, he doesn’t see eye to eye with Brad on that at all (from what I hear).
If you are even asking that, you need to go back and read this whole thread. And Paul’s recent articles too. There is no good reason why you should be doing 30 sets in a workout in the first place.
Back in the mid 90’s this guy was “educating” me on how your pecs don’t activate (per EMG study he participated in) until lockout. About that time is when I trusted more in bro-science…even though I don’t believe that phrase had been coined yet.
I knew plenty of shirted bench pressers that should have had the best pecs on earth, considering that the shirt didn’t work those last few inches and they were hitting huge weights. But also knew by simple observation, who was getting the most jacked, the dudes with a full range of motion (and big weight of course).
There’s a lot more to building muscle than the contraction. (no I don’t have any studies to support this lol, just experience). It’s one of the reasons I was a bit incredulous of the hip thrust when it came out… wicked contraction that had great EMG readings, but not convinced it was going to reinvent training.
I was trying to convey that if this guy honestly thinks 30 sets are generally better, and long rest is generally better, i dont see how, in and of itself, not doing 30 sets with long rest at the same time due to impracticality must be intellectually dishonest which is what I thought you implied.
It is impractical. Totally. 30 sets with 3 minutes rest between sets is 90 minutes in the gym just resting! Does that make any f’n sense at all? Factor in that a set usually lasts about 30 seconds on average and now we’re talking another 15 minutes. So that’s basically a two hour workout. Every time. That is neither practical nor efficient.
Well, if he’s looking at it from a standpoint of “optimal training” with zero regard for life outside the gym then yes, he should have made them rest at least 3 minutes between sets. There are lots of powerlifters and other athletes spending 2+ hours in the gym, not necessarily because of excessive training volume but because they need several minutes between work sets and it takes time to work up to their top sets. If I’m squatting in wraps it can easily take me 45 minutes to work up to my top set from the time I step in the weight room, and I’m not a top level lifter either.
If he’s looking at how to get the best gains for people with time constraints then the whole program makes no sense.
I used to be a big fan of Jason Ferrugia. Haven’t heard or seen anything from him in years. I do remember the article though, and the exact phrase “junk volume”
Oh how much simpler this was talked about back in the day. And with all the Muscle and Fiction, people sported the same level of development we see today.
Ferrugia was one of the early authors on the site whose branches out to build his own presence, always seemed to have good info out there whenever I stumbled upon him.