[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
First, there never was a A black culture because they were kidnapped from all over Africa which still has a metric fuckton of languages (around 4000) and cultures and traditions and whatnot.
Then, without some solid persecution a common “black” culture would not have been created. [/quote]
Very true. That is why when people point out that there are “black entertainment shows”…it seems to completely ignore that BLACK AMERICANS literally had to fight to CREATE a culture in this country.
No other culture or race has experience the complete rape of their heritage and culture. Even when Jews were in slavery in Egypt they still held onto a large base of their culture. That was the strength of their survival.[/quote]
I dunno, the kidnapping and slave trade of women (of many cultures, but plenty of White women too; estimates put it at around 1 million Whites enslaved during that time period, not all of them women) to support the harems of the middle east was pretty significant too. There were kidnappings all along the coasts of Spain, Portugal and even up into France.
The only point I’m questioning is “no other culture or race has experienced” this.
There was plenty of stuff that happened with the Mongols and in China too. It’s all in the history books too… it’s just not in the public awareness.
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Yeah, but what made the US situation special was that the slaves actually reproduced enough to sustain their numbers, if not grow them.
That is pretty much unique and made chattel slavery possible. That, combined with the ideology demonstrated in the Declaration of Independence made for some quite unique circumstances and to tomes being written why slavery was not only ok but necessary.
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How is this different than Brazil?[/quote]
First, the had no tradition of Freeeeeeeeeedoooooooom, so their reasoning was “fuck you, thats why”.
Second, they needed to and were legally able to import new slaves at will.
They did not have generations that were born into slavery, well they did, but not ALL of them.
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Bingo.
American Blacks are unique in being a full group of people with mass rape of culture NAME and personal identity were placed into a culture that literally despised them for several centuries.
Loss of that heritage and culture is what makes this unique and the need for the building of a culture here.[/quote]
Arguably, they despised the Irish more.
You dont despise a solid workhorse.
I think what you need to wrap your head around is that you dont despise lifestock.
And that is what they saw in their slaves.