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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

For me, evil is defined the other way. Evil is diverting from the best good, instead of not any good at all. [/quote]

I consider that to be LIFE…we live in a balance of Yin and Yang, not all good or all bad. That is our reality.

There is no “best good” unless looking outside of our reality or looking at our species on a grand scale…which most of us avoid daily. In that concept God would be the “best good”.

It may be the “best good” for your daughter to be a lawyer…but hey, she wants to play soccer…so is it the “best good”? Does that make soccer EVIL?

That is how you came across before.

[/quote]

Well, certainly there are degrees. And yes I agree that the “best good” can be impossible to fully know or judge. But, to me, the degree of bad/evil is judged by distance from it either way. And while I can’t say for certain which exact actions are exactly in line with the best good, I can have a broader idea of general direction and I can certainly know things that are miles away from it.

And lawyers are evil. [/quote]

Ok, I will say this…EXTREME PORN WATCHING is for people with a dysfunction or addiction. I think you can be exposed to it too much.

Soon, your Saturday night becomes sitting on the couch in front of a Hustler DVD instead of even trying to meet real people.

I do not agree in labeling all porn as “evil”. That strikes me as someone who has never actually watched any porn.

I think it can have POSITIVE uses even in relationships if for no other use than to expose the couple to different things they can try. I think it is a negative if the man in the relationship is watching porn OVER having sex with his woman. That may point to problems internally.

In short, I think your initial reaction is what I see most often…and is the most illogical and emotion driven.

No, I seriously doubt most women are treated like shit in porn today. Some of these ladies literally RULE the industry in their own way…something that would have never been seen in even the 60’s.

You may not like it, but to call it EVIL is irrational.[/quote]

See, here we are having a decent rational discussion and you seem to start back up with the personal attacks.

You are using a different definition of the word. I’ve already agreed with you in the context of your definition.

There is little illogical or emotional in what I’ve said.

Edit: and as normal your irrational bigoted assumptions about me are way off the mark.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

For me, evil is defined the other way. Evil is diverting from the best good, instead of not any good at all. [/quote]

I consider that to be LIFE…we live in a balance of Yin and Yang, not all good or all bad. That is our reality.

There is no “best good” unless looking outside of our reality or looking at our species on a grand scale…which most of us avoid daily. In that concept God would be the “best good”.

It may be the “best good” for your daughter to be a lawyer…but hey, she wants to play soccer…so is it the “best good”? Does that make soccer EVIL?

That is how you came across before.

[/quote]

Well, certainly there are degrees. And yes I agree that the “best good” can be impossible to fully know or judge. But, to me, the degree of bad/evil is judged by distance from it either way. And while I can’t say for certain which exact actions are exactly in line with the best good, I can have a broader idea of general direction and I can certainly know things that are miles away from it.

And lawyers are evil. [/quote]

Ok, I will say this…EXTREME PORN WATCHING is for people with a dysfunction or addiction. I think you can be exposed to it too much.

Soon, your Saturday night becomes sitting on the couch in front of a Hustler DVD instead of even trying to meet real people.

I do not agree in labeling all porn as “evil”. That strikes me as someone who has never actually watched any porn.

I think it can have POSITIVE uses even in relationships if for no other use than to expose the couple to different things they can try. I think it is a negative if the man in the relationship is watching porn OVER having sex with his woman. That may point to problems internally.

In short, I think your initial reaction is what I see most often…and is the most illogical and emotion driven.

No, I seriously doubt most women are treated like shit in porn today. Some of these ladies literally RULE the industry in their own way…something that would have never been seen in even the 60’s.

You may not like it, but to call it EVIL is irrational.[/quote]

See, here we are having a decent rational discussion and you seem to start back up with the personal attacks.

You are using a different definition of the word. I’ve already agreed with you in the context of your definition.

There is little illogical or emotional in what I’ve said.

Edit: and as normal your irrational bigoted assumptions about me are way off the mark.[/quote]

There wasn’t one personal attack in that whole statement.

But your response is riddled with them.

You haven’t said yet what makes porn EVIL.

Your responses have been irrational…and that is not an attack.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I mean just because someone doesn’t have sex doesn’t mean that they don’t want to or that they weren’t tempted with it at some point. Maybe they are just better at fighting off that temptation than others. I think you thinking of 40 year old virgins as people who never had the opportunity for sex because of some social ineptitude, which is not always the case.[/quote]

maybe not…but the idea of the 40 year old guy with a Star Trek t-shirt on who hasn’t been outside in a year but is AWESOME at WoW is what comes to mind.

Most guys who speak to women…probably won’t be waiting until 40 to get inside one.[/quote]

I honestly can say that I have the same images because I struggle to balance being a Christian with falling into a secular mindset frequently. As someone who lost their virginity fairly young and has struggled (and lost) with sexual temptations frequently I don’t really have a very good grasp on the level of restraint that would take for a normal guy that actually had temptation present itself. I know two guys who made it to their mid 20’s as virgins before they were married and they were just regular guys. They actually employed an accountability system with one another when they felt temptation was getting the best of them they would call the other (kinda like an AA sponsor). [/quote]

This.

From a religious perspective, society is expected to conform to God’s will and not vice versa. People are marrying later as a matter of choice. If that makes it harder for them to wait that is not God setting them up for failure because it’s their choice. Just because something is hard to do is not an excuse to change the rules.

Like jbpick, I don’t buy into the opinion that saving yourself for marriage, even well into your 30’s, will somehow turn you into a socially-awkward pariah. I know a few people who did just that and you would never know by interacting with them. There are many other things that factor into personality and sociability.

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I mean just because someone doesn’t have sex doesn’t mean that they don’t want to or that they weren’t tempted with it at some point. Maybe they are just better at fighting off that temptation than others. I think you thinking of 40 year old virgins as people who never had the opportunity for sex because of some social ineptitude, which is not always the case.[/quote]

maybe not…but the idea of the 40 year old guy with a Star Trek t-shirt on who hasn’t been outside in a year but is AWESOME at WoW is what comes to mind.

Most guys who speak to women…probably won’t be waiting until 40 to get inside one.[/quote]

I honestly can say that I have the same images because I struggle to balance being a Christian with falling into a secular mindset frequently. As someone who lost their virginity fairly young and has struggled (and lost) with sexual temptations frequently I don’t really have a very good grasp on the level of restraint that would take for a normal guy that actually had temptation present itself. I know two guys who made it to their mid 20’s as virgins before they were married and they were just regular guys. They actually employed an accountability system with one another when they felt temptation was getting the best of them they would call the other (kinda like an AA sponsor). [/quote]

This.

From a religious perspective, society is expected to conform to God’s will and not vice versa. People are marrying later as a matter of choice. If that makes it harder for them to wait that is not God setting them up for failure because it’s their choice. Just because something is hard to do is not an excuse to change the rules.

Like jbpick, I don’t buy into the opinion that saving yourself for marriage, even well into your 30’s, will somehow turn you into a socially-awkward pariah. I know a few people who did just that and you would never know by interacting with them. There are many other things that factor into personality and sociability.[/quote]

That wasn’t very funny.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

On a side note X why do all the black dudes in porn always leave their socks on? [/quote]

Ashy feet.

Wearing socks all day dries your feet. White guys don’t know this because they are permanently ashy…to the core.

This is why we look 30 when we are 50 also…but I guess your feet would look 60 if you don’t use lotion.

Moral of this story…USE LOTION…all the time…in every scenario…especially with the subject of this thread.[/quote]

Thanks X now I understand black dont crack…

On a side note I do like me some ebony porn but its such a teez. Most black chicks dont like head and due to the whole hair thing they are almost never down with a facial…just sayin

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I mean just because someone doesn’t have sex doesn’t mean that they don’t want to or that they weren’t tempted with it at some point. Maybe they are just better at fighting off that temptation than others. I think you thinking of 40 year old virgins as people who never had the opportunity for sex because of some social ineptitude, which is not always the case.[/quote]

maybe not…but the idea of the 40 year old guy with a Star Trek t-shirt on who hasn’t been outside in a year but is AWESOME at WoW is what comes to mind.

Most guys who speak to women…probably won’t be waiting until 40 to get inside one.[/quote]

I honestly can say that I have the same images because I struggle to balance being a Christian with falling into a secular mindset frequently. As someone who lost their virginity fairly young and has struggled (and lost) with sexual temptations frequently I don’t really have a very good grasp on the level of restraint that would take for a normal guy that actually had temptation present itself. I know two guys who made it to their mid 20’s as virgins before they were married and they were just regular guys. They actually employed an accountability system with one another when they felt temptation was getting the best of them they would call the other (kinda like an AA sponsor). [/quote]

This.

From a religious perspective, society is expected to conform to God’s will and not vice versa. People are marrying later as a matter of choice. If that makes it harder for them to wait that is not God setting them up for failure because it’s their choice. Just because something is hard to do is not an excuse to change the rules.

Like jbpick, I don’t buy into the opinion that saving yourself for marriage, even well into your 30’s, will somehow turn you into a socially-awkward pariah. I know a few people who did just that and you would never know by interacting with them. There are many other things that factor into personality and sociability.[/quote]

That wasn’t very funny.
[/quote]

Sorry. Is this better?

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

This.

From a religious perspective, society is expected to conform to God’s will and not vice versa. People are marrying later as a matter of choice. If that makes it harder for them to wait that is not God setting them up for failure because it’s their choice. Just because something is hard to do is not an excuse to change the rules.

Like jbpick, I don’t buy into the opinion that saving yourself for marriage, even well into your 30’s, will somehow turn you into a socially-awkward pariah. I know a few people who did just that and you would never know by interacting with them. There are many other things that factor into personality and sociability.[/quote]

I dunno about the concept of being a social pariah from saving one’s self, but I just don’t find it biologically normal. Then again, many things these days aren’t and that’s a whole nother can o worms!

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[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

This.

From a religious perspective, society is expected to conform to God’s will and not vice versa. People are marrying later as a matter of choice. If that makes it harder for them to wait that is not God setting them up for failure because it’s their choice. Just because something is hard to do is not an excuse to change the rules.

Like jbpick, I don’t buy into the opinion that saving yourself for marriage, even well into your 30’s, will somehow turn you into a socially-awkward pariah. I know a few people who did just that and you would never know by interacting with them. There are many other things that factor into personality and sociability.[/quote]

I dunno about the concept of being a social pariah from saving one’s self, but I just don’t find it biologically normal. Then again, many things these days aren’t and that’s a whole nother can o worms!
[/quote]

The last part rang very true. If you want to go the opposite direction, oral sex is not biologically normal but no one is saying anything about that. ha

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[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

On a side note X why do all the black dudes in porn always leave their socks on? [/quote]

Ashy feet.

Wearing socks all day dries your feet. White guys don’t know this because they are permanently ashy…to the core.

This is why we look 30 when we are 50 also…but I guess your feet would look 60 if you don’t use lotion.

Moral of this story…USE LOTION…all the time…in every scenario…especially with the subject of this thread.[/quote]

Thanks X now I understand black dont crack…

On a side note I do like me some ebony porn but its such a teez. Most black chicks dont like head and due to the whole hair thing they are almost never down with a facial…just sayin
[/quote]

And on the next" Just ask a Black guy"…

Black girls don’t seem to enjoy wasting that 85 dollars they just spent on a hair do for your 15 seconds of ejaculating pleasure.

Yes, I am distraught over this as well.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

This.

From a religious perspective, society is expected to conform to God’s will and not vice versa. People are marrying later as a matter of choice. If that makes it harder for them to wait that is not God setting them up for failure because it’s their choice. Just because something is hard to do is not an excuse to change the rules.

Like jbpick, I don’t buy into the opinion that saving yourself for marriage, even well into your 30’s, will somehow turn you into a socially-awkward pariah. I know a few people who did just that and you would never know by interacting with them. There are many other things that factor into personality and sociability.[/quote]

I dunno about the concept of being a social pariah from saving one’s self, but I just don’t find it biologically normal. Then again, many things these days aren’t and that’s a whole nother can o worms!
[/quote]

The last part rang very true. If you want to go the opposite direction, oral sex is not biologically normal but no one is saying anything about that. ha[/quote]

Hey, we biologically have mouths…and biologically have an urge to stick our penises into holes.

It sounds perfectly normal to me…if not heavenly…and definitely not evil.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]setto222 wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

This.

From a religious perspective, society is expected to conform to God’s will and not vice versa. People are marrying later as a matter of choice. If that makes it harder for them to wait that is not God setting them up for failure because it’s their choice. Just because something is hard to do is not an excuse to change the rules.

Like jbpick, I don’t buy into the opinion that saving yourself for marriage, even well into your 30’s, will somehow turn you into a socially-awkward pariah. I know a few people who did just that and you would never know by interacting with them. There are many other things that factor into personality and sociability.[/quote]

I dunno about the concept of being a social pariah from saving one’s self, but I just don’t find it biologically normal. Then again, many things these days aren’t and that’s a whole nother can o worms!
[/quote]

The last part rang very true. If you want to go the opposite direction, oral sex is not biologically normal but no one is saying anything about that. ha[/quote]

Hey, we biologically have mouths…and biologically have an urge to stick our penises into holes.

It sounds perfectly normal to me…if not heavenly…and definitely not evil.[/quote]

Haha don’t get me wrong. I have nothing against the practice and will gladly accept one win the wife is feeling generous. You make a strong case for its biologic normalcy but if we look to nature as a guide I don’t see to many of our fellow animals going down on each other.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

On a side note X why do all the black dudes in porn always leave their socks on? [/quote]

Ashy feet.

Wearing socks all day dries your feet. White guys don’t know this because they are permanently ashy…to the core.

This is why we look 30 when we are 50 also…but I guess your feet would look 60 if you don’t use lotion.

Moral of this story…USE LOTION…all the time…in every scenario…especially with the subject of this thread.[/quote]

Thanks X now I understand black dont crack…

On a side note I do like me some ebony porn but its such a teez. Most black chicks dont like head and due to the whole hair thing they are almost never down with a facial…just sayin
[/quote]

And on the next" Just ask a Black guy"…

Black girls don’t seem to enjoy wasting that 85 dollars they just spent on a hair do for your 15 seconds of ejaculating pleasure.

Yes, I am distraught over this as well.[/quote]

I can understand this… getting your hair did is expensive & can take hrs, but the head thing is awful considering most black women have fantastic lips… As a white man with a long standing addiction to chocolate I think its torture

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[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

On a side note X why do all the black dudes in porn always leave their socks on? [/quote]

Ashy feet.

Wearing socks all day dries your feet. White guys don’t know this because they are permanently ashy…to the core.

This is why we look 30 when we are 50 also…but I guess your feet would look 60 if you don’t use lotion.

Moral of this story…USE LOTION…all the time…in every scenario…especially with the subject of this thread.[/quote]

Thanks X now I understand black dont crack…

On a side note I do like me some ebony porn but its such a teez. Most black chicks dont like head and due to the whole hair thing they are almost never down with a facial…just sayin
[/quote]

And on the next" Just ask a Black guy"…

Black girls don’t seem to enjoy wasting that 85 dollars they just spent on a hair do for your 15 seconds of ejaculating pleasure.

Yes, I am distraught over this as well.[/quote]

I can understand this… getting your hair did is expensive & can take hrs, but the head thing is awful considering most black women have fantastic lips… As a white man with a long standing addiction to chocolate I think its torture
[/quote]

Dude, I have stories…but this is not the place…and I am sure pushingharder has had better…so I won’t go there.

Yes, some lips are better than others…Thank You, Jesus.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

Haha don’t get me wrong. I have nothing against the practice and will gladly accept one win the wife is feeling generous. You make a strong case for its biologic normalcy but if we look to nature as a guide I don’t see to many of our fellow animals going down on each other.[/quote]

Hey, that is what makes us the superior species…opposable thumbs…and the luxury of having women who know when NOT to bite.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

On a side note X why do all the black dudes in porn always leave their socks on? [/quote]

Ashy feet.

Wearing socks all day dries your feet. White guys don’t know this because they are permanently ashy…to the core.

This is why we look 30 when we are 50 also…but I guess your feet would look 60 if you don’t use lotion.

Moral of this story…USE LOTION…all the time…in every scenario…especially with the subject of this thread.[/quote]

Thanks X now I understand black dont crack…

On a side note I do like me some ebony porn but its such a teez. Most black chicks dont like head and due to the whole hair thing they are almost never down with a facial…just sayin
[/quote]

And on the next" Just ask a Black guy"…

Black girls don’t seem to enjoy wasting that 85 dollars they just spent on a hair do for your 15 seconds of ejaculating pleasure.

Yes, I am distraught over this as well.[/quote]

I can understand this… getting your hair did is expensive & can take hrs, but the head thing is awful considering most black women have fantastic lips… As a white man with a long standing addiction to chocolate I think its torture
[/quote]

Dude, I have stories…but this is not the place…and I am sure pushingharder has had better…so I won’t go there.

Yes, some lips are better than others…Thank You, Jesus.[/quote]
Lol, best interaction of the whole thread

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LMAO next thread should be asian hookers

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]thehebrewhero wrote:

On a side note X why do all the black dudes in porn always leave their socks on? [/quote]

Ashy feet.

Wearing socks all day dries your feet. White guys don’t know this because they are permanently ashy…to the core.

This is why we look 30 when we are 50 also…but I guess your feet would look 60 if you don’t use lotion.

Moral of this story…USE LOTION…all the time…in every scenario…especially with the subject of this thread.[/quote]

Thanks X now I understand black dont crack…

On a side note I do like me some ebony porn but its such a teez. Most black chicks dont like head and due to the whole hair thing they are almost never down with a facial…just sayin
[/quote]

And on the next" Just ask a Black guy"…

Black girls don’t seem to enjoy wasting that 85 dollars they just spent on a hair do for your 15 seconds of ejaculating pleasure.

Yes, I am distraught over this as well.[/quote]

I knew that, kind of, for there is a documentary ba Chris Rock about the black wimmenz and their hair.

They make up around 13% of all women and yet spend wayyyy out of proportion on hair products.

No one knows why?

So, in this installment of ask a black man, why?

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Because it is a perversion and denigration of God’s most ancient and foundational social institution which is proclaimed by the Apostle Paul in the 5th of Ephesians to be an earthly mirror of Christ’s love for His church bride. Watching porn or not isn’t really the point though. One can be faithful to his/her spouse and never see porn once in their life and go the same hell as Larry Flynt. Abstaining from pornography or adultery or fornication, homosexuality or pedophilia for that matter, doesn’t save anybody. Being raised from death in sin to new life in Christ does. Those for whom this is a reality will never have to ask what is wrong with porn.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Because it is a perversion and denigration of God’s most ancient and foundational social institution which is proclaimed by the Apostle Paul in the 5th of Ephesians to be an earthly mirror of Christ’s love for His church bride. Watching porn or not isn’t really the point though. One can be faithful to his/her spouse and never see porn once in their life and go the same hell as Larry Flynt. Abstaining from pornography or adultery or fornication, homosexuality or pedophilia for that matter, doesn’t save anybody. Being raised from death in sin to new life in Christ does. Those for whom this is a reality will never have to ask what is wrong with porn.[/quote]

Yay! I agree with Trib.

Not watching porn is a symptom of a life rightly lived, not the cause.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
No here is the question of the week.

Is this photoshopped? [/quote]

That is synthol…and I try to stay away from that debate.