[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I see the filming itself as being treated like shit. Or at least being treated as less than what they are. [/quote]
Then you need to get out more. quote]
Lol what? Damn I guess you havent lived till you get to see the set of a porno?
[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Lol what? Damn I guess you havent lived till you get to see the set of a porno?[/quote]
If you are claiming that women are mistreated during the filming, it may help to know what actually goes on.
You disagree?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
DoubleDuce & jbpick86
I complete respect that stance. Maybe it’s just how my brain works, I don’t know. I also have a different perspective on religion than many do, I don’t want to start a crazy derailment so I’ll just leave it at that.
[/quote]
I also believe good wholesome religious morality is the best way to “secular” happiness too. Which is why I don’t really see the 2 as different. Religion is inherently meant to adjust and perfect the all of you, including the secular parts. And any morality is inherently religious in nature.
You believe what you do, not what hold in your head as ideal.
Do you believe Christianity stands in opposition to physical happiness?[/quote]
I beleive that a beleif in God is mean’t to adjust and perfect the all of you, but I’m not convinced that religion is.
I find some of the rules in Christianity and other religions to be arbitrary and I find it hard to believe they are dervied from God and not man.
I don’t beleive Christianity purposefully stands opposition to physical happiness.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I see the filming itself as being treated like shit. Or at least being treated as less than what they are. [/quote]
Then you need to get out more. On “the set” they are treated like “actors and actresses”…with fluffers.
How much experience do you have in this area to speak on it like you seem to be?[/quote]
If getting treated like “an actor” is what you thought I meant by wanting to be treated as what they really are, then we have no common ground on which to even continue discussions.[/quote]
Obviously we don’t…because you don’t seem willing to admit that some women have this as a goal…because they WANT to do it.
You are basically coming across as if your opinion holds so strongly that no woman could possibly LIKE doing this…which is false.
If they like it, why do you find fault with it again?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
DoubleDuce & jbpick86
I complete respect that stance. Maybe it’s just how my brain works, I don’t know. I also have a different perspective on religion than many do, I don’t want to start a crazy derailment so I’ll just leave it at that.
[/quote]
I also believe good wholesome religious morality is the best way to “secular” happiness too. Which is why I don’t really see the 2 as different. Religion is inherently meant to adjust and perfect the all of you, including the secular parts. And any morality is inherently religious in nature.
You believe what you do, not what hold in your head as ideal.
Do you believe Christianity stands in opposition to physical happiness?[/quote]
I beleive that a beleif in God is mean’t to adjust and perfect the all of you, but I’m not convinced that religion is.
I find some of the rules in Christianity and other religions to be arbitrary and I find it hard to believe they are dervied from God and not man.
I don’t beleive Christianity purposefully stands opposition to physical happiness. [/quote]
I hold some of the same thoughts but with a stronger belief in God…for instance…DON’T HAVE SEX UNTIL MARRIAGE.
Wow, that sounded great 200+ years ago when most people were married by the age of 16.
It sounds pathological in a society where people don’t get married until 30 or later.
Yet no one wants to discuss things like that.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
DoubleDuce & jbpick86
I complete respect that stance. Maybe it’s just how my brain works, I don’t know. I also have a different perspective on religion than many do, I don’t want to start a crazy derailment so I’ll just leave it at that.
[/quote]
I also believe good wholesome religious morality is the best way to “secular” happiness too. Which is why I don’t really see the 2 as different. Religion is inherently meant to adjust and perfect the all of you, including the secular parts. And any morality is inherently religious in nature.
You believe what you do, not what hold in your head as ideal.
Do you believe Christianity stands in opposition to physical happiness?[/quote]
I beleive that a beleif in God is mean’t to adjust and perfect the all of you, but I’m not convinced that religion is.
I find some of the rules in Christianity and other religions to be arbitrary and I find it hard to believe they are dervied from God and not man.
I don’t beleive Christianity purposefully stands opposition to physical happiness. [/quote]
Okay, so what do you believe the intent is then?
Which rules?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I see the filming itself as being treated like shit. Or at least being treated as less than what they are. [/quote]
Then you need to get out more. On “the set” they are treated like “actors and actresses”…with fluffers.
How much experience do you have in this area to speak on it like you seem to be?[/quote]
If getting treated like “an actor” is what you thought I meant by wanting to be treated as what they really are, then we have no common ground on which to even continue discussions.[/quote]
Obviously we don’t…because you don’t seem willing to admit that some women have this as a goal…because they WANT to do it.
You are basically coming across as if your opinion holds so strongly that no woman could possibly LIKE doing this…which is false.
If they like it, why do you find fault with it again?[/quote]
Nope. Never said any of that.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Nope. Never said any of that. [/quote]
Yeah, the difference is, several people are now noticing the round about way you are trying to argue.
We have discussed what you said…that you think it is WRONG…but you have yet to explain WHAT MAKES IT WRONG.
Not wanting your kids to do it does not make something wrong.
Please explain EXACTLY what makes it WRONG.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Lol what? Damn I guess you havent lived till you get to see the set of a porno?[/quote]
If you are claiming that women are mistreated during the filming, it may help to know what actually goes on.
You disagree?
[/quote]
Certainly but I dont think hes claiming anything. He will need to clarify but I think he is meaning “from an outside point of view, it looks like…the rest of his sentence”.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
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The hot load part got me… Full on audible laughter coming from my office.
[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Lol what? Damn I guess you havent lived till you get to see the set of a porno?[/quote]
If you are claiming that women are mistreated during the filming, it may help to know what actually goes on.
You disagree?
[/quote]
Certainly but I dont think hes claiming anything. He will need to clarify but I think he is meaning “from an outside point of view, it looks like…the rest of his sentence”. [/quote]
Yeah, he needs to clarify quite a bit, but we don’t seem to be getting any clarity.
I am not sure how it would look from an outside view…its a MOVIE with bad actors and a bad plot with focus on the sex.
Unless seeing behind the scenes reels, how wold he know one way or the other?
…and for the record, the behind the scenes action is often more interesting than any “plot” they could come up with.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Nope. Never said any of that. [/quote]
Yeah, the difference is, several people are now noticing the round about way you are trying to argue.
We have discussed what you said…that you think it is WRONG…but you have yet to explain WHAT MAKES IT WRONG.
Not wanting your kids to do it does not make something wrong.
Please explain EXACTLY what makes it WRONG.[/quote]
I’ve thoroughly explained this.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Nope. Never said any of that. [/quote]
Yeah, the difference is, several people are now noticing the round about way you are trying to argue.
We have discussed what you said…that you think it is WRONG…but you have yet to explain WHAT MAKES IT WRONG.
Not wanting your kids to do it does not make something wrong.
Please explain EXACTLY what makes it WRONG.[/quote]
I’ve thoroughly explained this. [/quote]
You haven’t.
If you had, then listing what makes it wrong would be easy.
You have NOT explained what makes it wrong.
You just gave an opinion on things you haven’t explained how you know so much about.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
DoubleDuce & jbpick86
I complete respect that stance. Maybe it’s just how my brain works, I don’t know. I also have a different perspective on religion than many do, I don’t want to start a crazy derailment so I’ll just leave it at that.
[/quote]
I also believe good wholesome religious morality is the best way to “secular” happiness too. Which is why I don’t really see the 2 as different. Religion is inherently meant to adjust and perfect the all of you, including the secular parts. And any morality is inherently religious in nature.
You believe what you do, not what hold in your head as ideal.
Do you believe Christianity stands in opposition to physical happiness?[/quote]
I beleive that a beleif in God is mean’t to adjust and perfect the all of you, but I’m not convinced that religion is.
I find some of the rules in Christianity and other religions to be arbitrary and I find it hard to believe they are dervied from God and not man.
I don’t beleive Christianity purposefully stands opposition to physical happiness. [/quote]
Okay, so what do you believe the intent is then?
Which rules?[/quote]
I believe the intent of Christianity is to facilitate a better relationship with God.
Like I said, I really don’t want to get into a religious debate here.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
DoubleDuce & jbpick86
I complete respect that stance. Maybe it’s just how my brain works, I don’t know. I also have a different perspective on religion than many do, I don’t want to start a crazy derailment so I’ll just leave it at that.
[/quote]
I also believe good wholesome religious morality is the best way to “secular” happiness too. Which is why I don’t really see the 2 as different. Religion is inherently meant to adjust and perfect the all of you, including the secular parts. And any morality is inherently religious in nature.
You believe what you do, not what hold in your head as ideal.
Do you believe Christianity stands in opposition to physical happiness?[/quote]
I beleive that a beleif in God is mean’t to adjust and perfect the all of you, but I’m not convinced that religion is.
I find some of the rules in Christianity and other religions to be arbitrary and I find it hard to believe they are dervied from God and not man.
I don’t beleive Christianity purposefully stands opposition to physical happiness. [/quote]
Okay, so what do you believe the intent is then?
Which rules?[/quote]
I believe the intent of Christianity is to facilitate a better relationship with God.
Like I said, I really don’t want to get into a religious debate here. [/quote]
Just curious. Not meaning to start a debate.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Nope. Never said any of that. [/quote]
Yeah, the difference is, several people are now noticing the round about way you are trying to argue.
We have discussed what you said…that you think it is WRONG…but you have yet to explain WHAT MAKES IT WRONG.
Not wanting your kids to do it does not make something wrong.
Please explain EXACTLY what makes it WRONG.[/quote]
I’ve thoroughly explained this. [/quote]
You haven’t.
If you had, then listing what makes it wrong would be easy.
You have NOT explained what makes it wrong.
You just gave an opinion on things you haven’t explained how you know so much about.[/quote]
I have listed out a number of reasons.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I have listed out a number of reasons.[/quote]
Well, what you have succeeded at is showing you are not very good at this discussion thing.
Pages were wasted as you skipped around a subject.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I see the filming itself as being treated like shit. Or at least being treated as less than what they are.[/quote]
Please explain how they are treated like shit.