Wilson is my pick for worst POTUS of all time, bar none. As to the expansionist point, I am of the opinion that Lincoln expanding the federal remit over the slavery issue was a profound moral good. Same vis a vis FDR dragging the US into WW2. But FDR’s record is significantly more mixed than the other 2 named Presidents. Wilson’s is profoundly shit, Lincoln’s is pretty good. (Wartime abuses of power notwithstanding)
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Although T Roosevet went against my liberaterian leanings with some of his actions, l find him to be one of the most admirable of men, due to strength of character and seeming sincerity.
FDR and Lincoln pulled a lot of autocratic stunts that I disagree with. Mainly they more or less took the freedoms away from the populace, but perhaps success during their respective eras, demanded nothing less.
LBJ, Clinton, & Obama just flat out pushed societal changes that are built on shifting sand - Great Society, Financial & house lending deregulations, and PC engineering.
Wilson - l have to categorize as Satan’s own little helper in the White House. League of Nation, Federal Reserve, WW1 aftermath, Income Tax, Sedition Act 1918. He wasn’t alone in these, but his writings indicate a narsicistic and autocratic personality.
Trump - Who knows how this will progress? Armchair commentators here and in real life are calling the race, and all that happened so far, is the blast out of the starting gate.
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FDR and Lincoln pulled a lot of autocratic stunts that I disagree with. Mainly they more or less took the freedoms away from the populace, but perhaps success during their respective eras, demanded nothing less.
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That would be my assessment also. Mind you, my tolerance for Lincoln stopping secessionists from taking office in DC early in the war is much greater than it is for FDR’s internment camps.
Add his untrammelled support for eugenics and open racism, and you have the concise list of this misbegotten SOB’s resume.
It is anyone’s guess. I think we’ll be seeing a recession before long and the rubber will really hit the road then.
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Leaders of the country have always been ultra wealthy. Thomas Jefferson was worth hundreds of millions of dollars IIRC
My answer is we’ll see. So far a resounding no
They are?
I haven’t read wsj much but fox news was probably 65% -35% pro Trump at best during the election. Their main news anchor Megyn Kelly was anti Trump the whole time.
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There are many who see the hypocrisy in it all…and Trump and his Minions don’t like it…
It’s not about who they are it’s what they do. Trump from the beginning stated he’s going to bring in “killers” from the business world
Wouldn’t you love that?
You aren’t even mildly convincing.
What in particular in his first 38 days policy wise has Trump done for you to consider him a detriment to the US?
Anything you’ve read as criticism has been sarcasm directed at Lincoln, Wilson, and Roosevelt idolaters. I only “moved onto” Obama to point out that I consider him far better than the Lincoln, Wilson, Roosevelt trio.
That trio, by the way, is always listed near the top of textbook presidential rankings precisely, I suspect, for expanding federal power. I agree that your average guy doesn’t like them for that reason…he likes them because he was told they were great.
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Then why were you complaining about billionaires unfairly using their positions as mouthpieces if you actually don’t care?
Or do you only care when they’re critical of your man-crush Trump?
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Oh that’s right, I forgot their tagline: Fair and Balanced.
Because Trump isn’t motivated by money while I think the others are in my opinion.
If I thought he was I would never have supported him
LOL!
Well then you shouldn’t have any problem with Soros et al. You know, leaders of the country have always been ultra wealthy.
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Wut…?
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That’s adorable.
In the history of the Presidency, there has never been any man more motivated by money than Trump.
I actually don’t think you believe that - like most things, you get exposed after saying something flawed, and then double down on something idiotic.
Think “Meet the Parents” when Ben Stiller’s character is trying convince Deniro that, no really, you can milk anything with nipples. That’s you here in PWI.
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Can ya milk me Focker?
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His annual salary prior to running was estimated at 400m/year. By not working and running for president instead he didn’t collect a lot of this. He also basically destroyed his business brand, bookings at his hotels are down all across the board.
It will easily be made up for in the long-run (maybe not his lifetime) when people, most likely tourists, will say they want to stay in “Former US President Trump’s hotel.”
I can already see a branding pivot “A True American Hero that strived to Make America Great Again,” blah blah blah.
Hotels littered with “Presidential artifacts.” It’s genius and will be done by Ivanka if anyone; she seems to be about her shit.
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