If you decide on the t3 then that would be best started during week 6 with this cycle using the protocol i gave you before.
I hadnt really given much thought to the dosages of your original plan but looking at it i do tend to agree that it is a bit on the hefty side, This will take you to 1.2g per week which is still quite alot but not excessive.
If you decide on the t3 then that would be best started during week 6 with this cycle using the protocol i gave you before.
I hadnt really given much thought to the dosages of your original plan but looking at it i do tend to agree that it is a bit on the hefty side, This will take you to 1.2g per week which is still quite alot but not excessive.
Hope that helps[/quote]
just who i wanted to hear from. Anyway i have somewhat of a stockpile of the sust so im afraid its to late to change that. As far as the T-3 goes would u prefer starting it on week 6 OR running it from weeks 1-3 and then running heavy kelp for 3 weeks then goin back but for weeks 7-13 then hit the kelp again. Ive never used and it sounds great for what i want it for.
I am just reading mixed reviews on cycle length and how bad it can be fore your thyroid if taken incorrectly. Basically i would like to maximize my time with it while staying safe. And i LOVED my one experience with winny at 100mg/day ( amazing strength) however i am working on fixing some existing join pain that the winny certainly dident make any better. I will use it again but im thinking the cycle after this one.
[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
JJ wrote:
I prefer it, but i will wait till one of the bigger lads chips in too.
Good stuff Davo.
So what are you at weight wise now, and how tall, and what did you compete at last time?
now i am 228lbs visible abs at 6’2. weighed in may 24th at 206lbs. so bottom line is im going to need about 30lbs LBM before i oil up and do the damn thing.[/quote]
Then yeah, you should look great at your goal weight. I am currently 190lbs at around 12% and actually in the shape of my life on a stasis for 6 weeks! But i intend to gain a good 20lbd LBM then diet down to 190-195lbs contest ready for my first show. I am fairly confident with how i look now, how my poses are going, and how 20 more lbs would look that it should secure me a placing at least.
I think that you have done a good thing by showing already - as you have learned so much about your body, and what is required of you - now you can pack on more size, get the conditioning spot on and blow the floor away!
just who i wanted to hear from. Anyway i have somewhat of a stockpile of the sust so im afraid its to late to change that. As far as the T-3 goes would u prefer starting it on week 6 OR running it from weeks 1-3 and then running heavy kelp for 3 weeks then goin back but for weeks 7-13 then hit the kelp again. Ive never used and it sounds great for what i want it for.
I am just reading mixed reviews on cycle length and how bad it can be fore your thyroid if taken incorrectly. Basically i would like to maximize my time with it while staying safe. And i LOVED my one experience with winny at 100mg/day ( amazing strength) however i am working on fixing some existing join pain that the winny certainly dident make any better. I will use it again but im thinking the cycle after this one.
So you agree with jj, lowering the cycle dose?
thanks[/quote]
As you have said, there are so many mixed opinions and a whole host of case studies ranging both ends of the spectrum reguarding t3 administration and future thyroid output. I hae always taken the approach that it is a hormone so use as little as possible and minimise the disruption to homeostasis so to speak.
I see no problems with using it twice, but i think an adjustment of dosage would be required on the second cycle maybe lowering it by 25% throughout seeing as your steroid concentrations will not be as high as before and your body is going to have to go be shortly going through ‘coming off’ which is always uncomfatable no matter how you do your post cycle therapy.
Probably leave the winny out then, i was jut adding it in there as a shbg agent and to harden you out a bit at the end of the cycle.
Of course, if you could get some GH to use for this cycle and continue afterwards, things could get very interesting, alas, this is a dream for most unless your a rich git like Bush or Eales.
I also agree on lowering the dose. Save a 2+ gram per week cycle for when you weigh 250+ lbs.
Im also all for the proposed cycle that test has laid out for you dropping the NPP in favour of deca. However if you are running 15wk cycle run the deca to week 12 and the eq to week 13 if you are using a serm pct approach.
Use the multi estered test if thats what you already have injecting EOD which im sure is what you plan to do.
Regarding the T3, Ive never heard of anyone using less than 3 days at a time to ramp the dosage up and down. It is a very serious hormone and one not to be taken lightly.
PM prisoner as to what he sugests for you T3 dosage as I know he is very up to protocols and dosing of this product.
Wouldn’t Deca be a viable option to help with the joint pain? Assuming you’re goin for overall mass with your show being next year. Not in this cycle (I think there’s enough on the plate as there is, lol), but a future one?
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
I also agree on lowering the dose. Save a 2+ gram per week cycle for when you weigh 250+ lbs.
Im also all for the proposed cycle that test has laid out for you dropping the NPP in favour of deca. However if you are running 15wk cycle run the deca to week 12 and the eq to week 13 if you are using a serm pct approach.
Use the multi estered test if thats what you already have injecting EOD which im sure is what you plan to do.
Regarding the T3, Ive never heard of anyone using less than 3 days at a time to ramp the dosage up and down. It is a very serious hormone and one not to be taken lightly.
PM prisoner as to what he sugests for you T3 dosage as I know he is very up to protocols and dosing of this product.[/quote]
might just have to shoot him one about it. thanks
[quote]Thatguy1083 wrote:
I am just reading mixed reviews on cycle length and how bad it can be fore your thyroid if taken incorrectly. Basically i would like to maximize my time with it while staying safe. And i LOVED my one experience with winny at 100mg/day ( amazing strength) however i am working on fixing some existing join pain that the winny certainly dident make any better. I will use it again but im thinking the cycle after this one.
Wouldn’t Deca be a viable option to help with the joint pain? Assuming you’re goin for overall mass with your show being next year. Not in this cycle (I think there’s enough on the plate as there is, lol), but a future one?[/quote]
The NPP is there for the joint pain. I really would rather try NPP then deca which i have tried before. From what ive read it is almost as effective and is much better side effects wise then deca. Wouldn’t mind some more input on this but i think NPP sounds like a great product.
The BEST deca cycle i did was just 200mg organon with 50mg proviron for me nob.
No bloat whatsoever… well, maybe a little! But not much, and i began gaining noticeably from week 3!! Imagine that!
I did a 8 weeker, and i lost fat and gained a good 15lbs. It was the first cycle i did that i first saw my potential.
I saw my lines, shape of bellys and tapers of attachments etc to show me my true BB proportions for the first time, and saw the blue print for my physique if you like.
From a skinny lad who lifted weights to simply a smaller version of the final physique…
know what i mean?
[quote] JJ wrote:
The BEST deca cycle i did was just 200mg organon with 50mg proviron for me nob.
No bloat whatsoever… well, maybe a little! But not much, and i began gaining noticeably from week 3!! Imagine that!
I did a 8 weeker, and i lost fat and gained a good 15lbs. It was the first cycle i did that i first saw my potential.
I saw my lines, shape of bellys and tapers of attachments etc to show me my true BB proportions for the first time, and saw the blue print for my physique if you like.
From a skinny lad who lifted weights to simply a smaller version of the final physique…
know what i mean?
“So to summarise, the increased daily food intake is not to offset the powerful effects of cytomel, but rather to take full advantage of it.
When it is combined with a body pumped full of exogenous hormones it is the dogs bollocks mate”
If I get this right taking T3 with AAS will allow someone to remain lean while eating like a madman? That looks awsome! Especially in the summer… Keep us posted!
From other threads it seems the HGH+AAS+Metformin combo is the other option.
[quote]SwD wrote:
“So to summarise, the increased daily food intake is not to offset the powerful effects of cytomel, but rather to take full advantage of it.
When it is combined with a body pumped full of exogenous hormones it is the dogs bollocks mate”
If I get this right taking T3 with AAS will allow someone to remain lean while eating like a madman? That looks awsome! Especially in the summer… Keep us posted!
From other threads it seems the HGH+AAS+Metformin combo is the other option.
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Yea thats the idea, hopefully it will play out as good as it sounds.
staying lean is a desired side effect, bu the purpose is to further the use of anabolic steroids.
Steroids partition nutrients better and allow for an improved quantity of muscle growth.
T3 facilitates a speeding up of this process allowing the user to gain more from the steroids if you like.
i.e if the steroid aided body is processing 1000 calories a day into muscle tissue, the t3 accelerated steroid aided body will process 2000 calories a day into muscle.
Obviously those numbers are made up but that is the simplest i can word i think.
[quote]Dave1188 wrote:
JJ wrote:
…for the first time, and saw the blue print for my physique if you like.
From a skinny lad who lifted weights to simply a smaller version of the final physique…
know what i mean?
Brilliant.
JJ
how much did your penis hate u?[/quote]
His penis still hates him, he keeps rubbing its head all the time and making it sneeze haha
[quote]testanabol wrote:
Dave1188 wrote:
JJ wrote:
…for the first time, and saw the blue print for my physique if you like.
From a skinny lad who lifted weights to simply a smaller version of the final physique…
know what i mean?
Brilliant.
JJ
how much did your penis hate u?
His penis still hates him, he keeps rubbing its head all the time and making it sneeze haha
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Yea i do all in my power to maintain a good relationship with mine as we are friends and have been for years now. Its really more of a love hate though, all he does is frustrate me and get me into trouble.
Regarding the T3 i really am excited to see how it plays out. I have been looking for a excuse to feed my pizza addiction ever since i decided to bb and eat right. i will NEED the extra cals and fat while on so i guess ill have to indulge. docs orders
And davie-poo, tell me about it - my sex drive is up, my wife is away, and i am wishing i WAS shut down.
Good job i am strong, but it doesnt mean i have to enjoy it.
[quote]testanabol wrote:
Actually you do not want to do that.
Keep your salt and sodium intake as low as possible to avoid excessive water retention.
A slice here and there will not hurt but be watchful.
Then again im a stickler for clean food, no alcohol at all times, probably why i watch youporn.com so much hmmm…[/quote]
thought i was the only one lol. It really isent too awful right now(stasis), i only watch uporn like 14-15 hours a day. The worst IMO is Test+dbol= the most sexually frustrating 6 weeks of my life ( noticed a significant drop after dbol was done). Try walking around college and not seriously consider tackling every piece of well put together tail that walks by. And on the other hand feeling genuinely sad for my girl and her vag.
Yea generally i eat really clean as well. It makes sense though i do feel pretty bloated at the times i have let my diet go dirty. Ill just play around with the diet a little at first see what it takes to get the cals while remaining comfortable givin the gear.
“staying lean is a desired side effect, bu the purpose is to further the use of anabolic steroids.
Steroids partition nutrients better and allow for an improved quantity of muscle growth.
T3 facilitates a speeding up of this process allowing the user to gain more from the steroids if you like.”
Well explained thanks. How would it compare to AAS+HGH+Metformin? (If someone knows that is…)
BTW I’m glad reading all your sexual frustrations It means I’m not alone! Let’s just say my GF is working overtime right now, but man, gigantic libido is both fun AND an unwanted side effect.
It means I’m not alone! Let’s just say my GF is working overtime right now, but man, gigantic libido is both fun AND an unwanted side effect.