Punks Kill American Hero's Dog

[1porsche]

Wow what a bunch of dicks. You people need to live in the real world. We have to have laws because there are bad people. We have to have soldiers because there are assholes out there that would walk all over this country if it wernt for the military.

This is really basic. And the dude did the right thing by following them and NOT killing them, which must have been tough because Iraq or not someone just killing a dog, that is often like a family member, def warrants a serous response.

And in THE REAL WORLD where some of us live the REALITY is that these kids probably will grow up to be psychos and they should just be killed. that is a sick crime and is just a hair away from killing another human.

If you really don’t like the way we do things just go over to Venezuela/NKorea/Iran and try to spout your shit there because unlike our county which you so despise they would just kill you. Maybe you should think really long and hard about that shit.

[orion]

[quote]1porsche wrote:
Wow what a bunch of dicks. You people need to live in the real world. We have to have laws because there are bad people. We have to have soldiers because there are assholes out there that would walk all over this country if it wernt for the military. This is really basic. And the dude did the right thing by following them and NOT killing them, which must have been tough because Iraq or not someone just killing a dog, that is often like a family member, def warrants a serous response.

And in THE REAL WORLD where some of us live the REALITY is that these kids probably will grow up to be psychos and they should just be killed. that is a sick crime and is just a hair away from killing another human.

If you really don’t like the way we do things just go over to Venezuela/NKorea/Iran and try to spout your shit there because unlike our county which you so despise they would just kill you. Maybe you should think really long and hard about that shit.[/quote]

Well I “moved” to Austria where we have the right to say
those things without regularly killing citizens of third world countries.

[lixy]

[quote]1porsche wrote:
We have to have soldiers because there are assholes out there that would walk all over this country if it wernt for the military. [/quote]

Maybe so.

But for now, you are the assholes walking all over the world because you have military superiority.

[HangerBaby]

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
If you ever said such bullshit in my presence, then you could count on tryin to defend yourself “face-to-face like men”.

Then you admit you are nothing more than a common thug who uses violence against people whose ideas you do not agree with. Your kind is easily dealt with.

You would be handled like a gnat buzzing about my ear – swiftly and with no emotion.

Threatening violence against someone who has done none to you is the stupidest thing you can do.

Yes of course. You and your lawyer would swiftly take care of me, the gnat, or the common thug, or the bully. Wait, why dont you just call me the guy who has some respect for the people who defend this country. I’ll just call you the guy who hides behind his computer spewing bullshit when in reality he would never EVER have the balls to say something so disrespectful to the face of a soldier.
Its not like soldiers are any tougher than the common man
hell, 80% of my good friends are in the USMC. They’re the weakest guys I know!
Go be blind elsewheres

mentally weak? Just curious. [/quote]
They are a little bit more confident than your average guy, they even become a little arrogant after a few rounds of PT… but nothing impressive mentally.

[Himora22]

[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
If you ever said such bullshit in my presence, then you could count on tryin to defend yourself “face-to-face like men”.

Then you admit you are nothing more than a common thug who uses violence against people whose ideas you do not agree with. Your kind is easily dealt with.

You would be handled like a gnat buzzing about my ear – swiftly and with no emotion.

Threatening violence against someone who has done none to you is the stupidest thing you can do.

Yes of course. You and your lawyer would swiftly take care of me, the gnat, or the common thug, or the bully. Wait, why dont you just call me the guy who has some respect for the people who defend this country. I’ll just call you the guy who hides behind his computer spewing bullshit when in reality he would never EVER have the balls to say something so disrespectful to the face of a soldier.
Its not like soldiers are any tougher than the common man
hell, 80% of my good friends are in the USMC. They’re the weakest guys I know!
Go be blind elsewheres

mentally weak? Just curious.
They are a little bit more confident than your average guy, they even become a little arrogant after a few rounds of PT… but nothing impressive mentally.
[/quote]

If its so fucking easy then sign the fuck up or go live in a cave and shoot some RPGs at some Americans. I swear I get so sick of hearing you ppl talk about how its not that hard. Have you ever seen one of you best friends get their brains blown out? No? I thought not. Weather your and Afghan fighting for your home or a commissioned officer you fallow your orders. We don’t want to leave our families but it comes with the job. Our dogs are as much a part of the family as any one else and I know mine means alot to me. I would be surprised if 1% of you could make it through ranger school. Here is something to run by your small brains,

1st: try walking 20miles through the wilderness
2nd: You get 1 mre( Meals ready to Eat), every thing else you have to scrounge for your self in the woods.
3: all you get is whats is in your ruck, a compas, pencels and leval

see how far you make it.

Christ, now you have pulled me into this shit. STFU!! Mods please move this whole thread to PWI were it belongs. FUCK!

[Big_Boss]

[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
If you ever said such bullshit in my presence, then you could count on tryin to defend yourself “face-to-face like men”.

Then you admit you are nothing more than a common thug who uses violence against people whose ideas you do not agree with. Your kind is easily dealt with.

You would be handled like a gnat buzzing about my ear – swiftly and with no emotion.

Threatening violence against someone who has done none to you is the stupidest thing you can do.

Yes of course. You and your lawyer would swiftly take care of me, the gnat, or the common thug, or the bully. Wait, why dont you just call me the guy who has some respect for the people who defend this country. I’ll just call you the guy who hides behind his computer spewing bullshit when in reality he would never EVER have the balls to say something so disrespectful to the face of a soldier.
Its not like soldiers are any tougher than the common man
hell, 80% of my good friends are in the USMC. They’re the weakest guys I know!
Go be blind elsewheres

mentally weak? Just curious.
They are a little bit more confident than your average guy, they even become a little arrogant after a few rounds of PT… but nothing impressive mentally.
[/quote]

But they’re not mentally weak…as you stated. Besides,your circle of friends only represent a sliver of the Armed Forces.

But I will say that soldiers will “jump to the occasion” before your common man…and tend to be a little “crazier”…as the story that started this thread shows…as do my own personal experiences. Remember that soldiers are “common men.” Once a soldier,pretty much always a soldier…look around.

[HangerBaby]

[quote]Himora22 wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
If you ever said such bullshit in my presence, then you could count on tryin to defend yourself “face-to-face like men”.

Then you admit you are nothing more than a common thug who uses violence against people whose ideas you do not agree with. Your kind is easily dealt with.

You would be handled like a gnat buzzing about my ear – swiftly and with no emotion.

Threatening violence against someone who has done none to you is the stupidest thing you can do.

Yes of course. You and your lawyer would swiftly take care of me, the gnat, or the common thug, or the bully. Wait, why dont you just call me the guy who has some respect for the people who defend this country. I’ll just call you the guy who hides behind his computer spewing bullshit when in reality he would never EVER have the balls to say something so disrespectful to the face of a soldier.
Its not like soldiers are any tougher than the common man
hell, 80% of my good friends are in the USMC. They’re the weakest guys I know!
Go be blind elsewheres

mentally weak? Just curious.
They are a little bit more confident than your average guy, they even become a little arrogant after a few rounds of PT… but nothing impressive mentally.

If its so fucking easy then sign the fuck up or go live in a cave and shoot some RPGs at some Americans. I swear I get so sick of hearing you ppl talk about how its not that hard. Have you ever seen one of you best friends get their brains blown out? No? I thought not. Weather your and Afghan fighting for your home or a commissioned officer you fallow your orders. We don’t want to leave our families but it comes with the job. Our dogs are as much a part of the family as any one else and I know mine means alot to me. I would be surprised if 1% of you could make it through ranger school. Here is something to run by your small brains,

1st: try walking 20miles through the wilderness
2nd: You get 1 mre( Meals ready to Eat), every thing else you have to scrounge for your self in the woods.
3: all you get is whats is in your ruck, a compas, pencels and leval

see how far you make it.

Christ, now you have pulled me into this shit. STFU!! Mods please move this whole thread to PWI were it belongs. FUCK!
[/quote]
lol
dude

bear grylls does that shit every day

if I wanted to revert to hunter gatherer mindsets I would go camping more often

I take advantage of my surroundings… by not surrounding myself by that shit

[dexslave]

That is fucked up. Anyone who say’s otherwise is fucking worthless.

[irish20cb]

[quote]HangerBaby wrote:
Himora22 wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
HangerBaby wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
TxCASH wrote:
If you ever said such bullshit in my presence, then you could count on tryin to defend yourself “face-to-face like men”.

Then you admit you are nothing more than a common thug who uses violence against people whose ideas you do not agree with. Your kind is easily dealt with.

You would be handled like a gnat buzzing about my ear – swiftly and with no emotion.

Threatening violence against someone who has done none to you is the stupidest thing you can do.

Yes of course. You and your lawyer would swiftly take care of me, the gnat, or the common thug, or the bully. Wait, why dont you just call me the guy who has some respect for the people who defend this country. I’ll just call you the guy who hides behind his computer spewing bullshit when in reality he would never EVER have the balls to say something so disrespectful to the face of a soldier.
Its not like soldiers are any tougher than the common man
hell, 80% of my good friends are in the USMC. They’re the weakest guys I know!
Go be blind elsewheres

mentally weak? Just curious.
They are a little bit more confident than your average guy, they even become a little arrogant after a few rounds of PT… but nothing impressive mentally.

If its so fucking easy then sign the fuck up or go live in a cave and shoot some RPGs at some Americans. I swear I get so sick of hearing you ppl talk about how its not that hard. Have you ever seen one of you best friends get their brains blown out? No? I thought not. Weather your and Afghan fighting for your home or a commissioned officer you fallow your orders. We don’t want to leave our families but it comes with the job. Our dogs are as much a part of the family as any one else and I know mine means alot to me. I would be surprised if 1% of you could make it through ranger school. Here is something to run by your small brains,

1st: try walking 20miles through the wilderness
2nd: You get 1 mre( Meals ready to Eat), every thing else you have to scrounge for your self in the woods.
3: all you get is whats is in your ruck, a compas, pencels and leval

see how far you make it.

Christ, now you have pulled me into this shit. STFU!! Mods please move this whole thread to PWI were it belongs. FUCK!

lol
dude

bear grylls does that shit every day

if I wanted to revert to hunter gatherer mindsets I would go camping more often

I take advantage of my surroundings… by not surrounding myself by that shit
[/quote]

Exactly… that’s because Bear Grylls is former SAS…Britain’s version of the SEALs (ok really, this was my last post)

[streamline]

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

killing humans while in uniform == heroic
killing animals while not in uniform == barbaric

That’s right. There are no other circumstances we need to consider. This is what it all boils down to.

What does murder have to do with circumstance. It is still murder, no?

Sigh

I’m tired of seeing you get your ass handed to you in these forums. I don’t have the energy for it.

Just answer the question. When is murder ok?[/quote]

Killing or murdering is never ok. It is however justifiable and at times necessary.

Killing his dog was neither of those. It was dark, meaningless and utterly cruel. I would however be looking at the family units for some from of rationalization.

[DoubleDuce]

[quote]lixy wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
First, I was referring specifically to the group that ambushed the seals. Assuming they were in some way related to the Taliban guy the seals were after, I would consider them such.

There was nothing “specific” in your post. And even the US military refers to that group as insurgents (i.e: rebels challenging Kabul’s authority).

[/quote]
Sorry for basing my post on the specific thread topic.

Second, I put it in quotes specifically to denote that I wasn’t making a distinction based on them being terrorists. I would think you would have caught that noting you used them to the same purpose in your response. I was, in fact, pointing out that in the individualist (read anarchist) since both groups were doing the same thing. And further that for lift to sympathize with or condemn either group is against his own principals.

I suppose Lift doesn’t like the idea of his tax dollars used to wage wars of aggression.

Yes, it is aggression to actively ensure a parole guilty of violent crimes has no weapons.

Third, I think you need to quit bitchin,

Make me!

pick up your AK and join your beloved brethren in shooting at the infidels so some seals can put you out of your misery.

So because I don’t consider this person a “hero”, I must be a Taliban supporter?

Brilliant!

Wait, I though shooting at Americans didn’t make you a terrorist. Or is it that you can only equate the two when it’s convenient to you.

I swear people like you wine about the bias on fox news while watching Abu Dhabi Al Oula and screams of the atrocities of American troops while cheering at Civilian beheadings.

Exactly where did I cheer at a “civilian beheading”?

You certainly sympathize with the people doing it.

[quote]

We get it, the US has done some bad shit, I admit it, now wake up and smell the shit pile in your own back yard.

If each of us would tend to his own “shit pile”, the world would be a better place.[/quote]

I guess you should tell Kuwaitis that too.

[Vash]

My only post on this thread:

Thanks to each and every one of the United States Armed Forces, all branches, all functions.

You give up a piece of your lives, take risks, and do things I either can’t or won’t, and are one of the prime reasons I have the option to abstain.

Thank you to each one of the rough bastards that guard me while I sleep.

[ElbowStrike]

I would like people to discuss the hypocrisy on T-Nation however, when the tables are turned and it is a US Serviceman committing cruelty against a completely helpless baby animal:

http://media.snuffx.com/jdch5f/040308/snuffx-dot-com-puppy-tossed-off-cliff.html

Because when this video first surfaced, a good 40-50% of the posts held an attitude of “what’s the big deal? It’s just an animal.”

Yet, when the animal belongs to a NAVY SEAL, suddenly that animal has value?

How many people are in here posting their rage against these teenage idiots shooting pet animals, yet several months ago were telling us all that US soldiers tossing a puppy off a cliff “isn’t a big deal”.

Hmm?