Hi,
I’m a newbie to the AAS use.
I have used several time ECA and clen, once t4. Hovewer my “idea” and “feeling” of AAS changed this summer when i try Test for the first time…
Well i feel great on that cycle.
Now i m on my 2nd cycle, a “bridge” short one based on Var and TBOL. I’m on the middle of a 6weeks…
And here is the problem… i feel so good on that stuff! i really don’t want to go off!
Of course I’ll do. I’ll go off and I’ll do my PCT as planned… but… well… I’m already planning my next cycle…
I would like to know if other feel this kind of “psychological addiction”…
I don’t know how to explain… but I see faster improvement… i’m stronger, bigger… leaner… with no sides other than money loss
I’m strong enough to quit it, and i think i’ll stick to 2 cycle/year… but i’m curious to know if other had this kinf of “emotions” on their first cycle…
Some on this site are on gear all the time. Yes the HPTA gets shut down, but the HCG can keep the testes working, just as with some TRT. Need to keep things liver friendly and not get carried away and mess up cholesterol levels. So it can be done, but needs to be done with care and knowledge. So its not as far fetched as it sounds. I am a TRT guy.
i know what you speak of. as a warning, if you try to chase this feeling, it will get less powerful with time, like any drug. you got a taste, take your breaks as planned, they will allow you to keep experiencing positive cycles in the future.
I know exactly what you’re talking about. Like the previous poster said plan ahead and stick to schedule. It’s the fact that you work so freakin hard in the gym for every ounce of muscle and there’s a product right at your fingertips that can help you gain 20+ lbs in 3 months. If I can say no to endless holiday dessert tables at Christmas parties then I can say no to anything. That’s the way I look at it.
[quote]E-man wrote:
I know exactly what you’re talking about. Like the previous poster said plan ahead and stick to schedule. It’s the fact that you work so freakin hard in the gym for every ounce of muscle and there’s a product right at your fingertips that can help you gain 20+ lbs in 3 months. If I can say no to endless holiday dessert tables at Christmas parties then I can say no to anything. That’s the way I look at it.[/quote]
I can easily say no to dessert or alike
and i think i have a quite strong will… this is the only think that save me
i followed your log through your first cycle and see why you are having trouble (everything went so well while on that it really doesn’t make you look forward to being off)…
I have been struggling with this myself. my cycle was a little rough and could have gone better if i had planned better but overall my progress was better in 3 weeks out of the cycle alone than over the last 3 years.
since coming off:
my nuts have just started to get back to their normal size (it has been 6 weeks…i was starting to worry)
my overall mood and libido is still sort of low (i don’t jerk off daily anymore because i don’t need to…this is really strange for me).
i have lost muscle and gained fat in its place (i have been a pound lighter every other week for 2 months). I am still up 10lbs overall but my body composition is back to where it was pre cycle, maybe even a little worse.
my energy for workouts is wayyyy down and my lifts are dropping in max weight each week.
my quality of sleep is really poor. when I was on i slept like a king for most of my cycle and now I am restless.
i waited 6 years to do a cycle and now that I have I find it much harder to wait for the second.
i followed your log through your first cycle and see why you are having trouble (everything went so well while on that it really doesn’t make you look forward to being off)…
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yeah…
and the second is as good as the previous (with different drugs, different goal…)
but so damn good! i take the idea to “power up” my hypocaloric nutrition to avoid LBM loss… and… i get more LBM!!
yeah i understand you… i have done tons of research before the starting of the first… and i think i still miss a think of 2
i was luckier… no loss on that “side”
i can understand… during first week of PCT i get a bit down on that side…
after the first cycle my body composition change a lot. I have done PCT without any weight loss, than i have started an hypocaloric diet that help me drop a lot of fat and water… i have done 2 errors:
started the hypocaloric nutrition to early after pct
used only T and i think i aromatize a lot (adex help me a lot but i take a bit of water… nice for joints however.
next time i’ll try somethink different… like tren or testo + eq
in my “post cycle” this was the better think… i have not suffered from weakening
also i’m getting stronger and this 2nd “bridge-like” cycle was a big kick in
here i am with you… i need more and more sleep… but i think it is for other problem (related to more personal problems…strss, family, too much work :))
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i waited 6 years to do a cycle and now that I have I find it much harder to wait for the second.[/quote]
well… i know i cant wait
the good thinks is that i have strong will and i want to reserach more on tren and DHT-drugs
i followed your log through your first cycle and see why you are having trouble (everything went so well while on that it really doesn’t make you look forward to being off)…
I have been struggling with this myself. my cycle was a little rough and could have gone better if i had planned better but overall my progress was better in 3 weeks out of the cycle alone than over the last 3 years.
since coming off:
my nuts have just started to get back to their normal size (it has been 6 weeks…i was starting to worry)
my overall mood and libido is still sort of low (i don’t jerk off daily anymore because i don’t need to…this is really strange for me).
i have lost muscle and gained fat in its place (i have been a pound lighter every other week for 2 months). I am still up 10lbs overall but my body composition is back to where it was pre cycle, maybe even a little worse.
my energy for workouts is wayyyy down and my lifts are dropping in max weight each week.
my quality of sleep is really poor. when I was on i slept like a king for most of my cycle and now I am restless.
i waited 6 years to do a cycle and now that I have I find it much harder to wait for the second.[/quote]
Your just going back to being normal
Coming off was hard for me. When I’m on, I feel like that’s how I should be all the time. Better mood, more energy, higher sex drive, and just a general feeling of well being.
I’m going to get flamed bigtime, but I have been on for 20 weeks at the moment. I have a comp coming up, and as a result am going to stay on for close to another 15. After that, I will take a 3 month break and get blood work done to see how everything looks. I’m not looking forward to it. It is addicting, like any drug. But, IMO, it can be used responsably, and on a regular basis without too many ill effects.
On a side note, my last pct worked well, and I used the test taper and pct protocol coutersy of P-22. It was far better than nova/clomid/hcg, and much smoother.
i will def do a taper for the next cycle…i used just nolva/trib and i don’t think it did very much for me. the nolva just made me angry and i don’t think trib works for me. i have done it in the past and didn’t notice anything.
what matters is that the boys are back and kicking. having them shrink was pretty taumatic. painful as well. like they were slowly dying. maybe it was in my head.
either way next cycle i am likely going to run HCG during at maintenance levels, adex instead of nolva, and do a taper at the end.
I’m going to get flamed bigtime, but I have been on for 20 weeks at the moment. I have a comp coming up, and as a result am going to stay on for close to another 15.
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do you mean that you’ll be on for 35weeks? with no breack?
either way next cycle i am likely going to run HCG during at maintenance levels, adex instead of nolva, and do a taper at the end.[/quote]
i have used adex instead of nolva during my 1st cycle. About PCT i think i’ll stick on nolva in the future… i have read a lot about P22 tapering and “traditional” PCT… but i have not yet full understood Test tapering PCT
I’m going to get flamed bigtime, but I have been on for 20 weeks at the moment. I have a comp coming up, and as a result am going to stay on for close to another 15.
do you mean that you’ll be on for 35weeks? with no breack?
what are you using?
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That is correct. Started with 5 weeks at test e, 250/wk.
Then did 10 weeks of test e/tren e at 500 and 400. The last 5 weeks I have gone back to test e, 250/wk.
For the final 13 weeks, I am going to up the test to 750, add in 50mg inj winny for the last 8 weeks, and 30mg dbol the last 4 weeks. Then I will taper back down. Feel free to flame away, I still have mixed feelings about it.
