Does anyone have experience with the aforementioned over the span of at least a year?
Used it for 18 months because I was working overnight.
It was interesting in that I never “felt” anything the way you might feel too many cups of coffee or a cocktail. There were no mood enhancing effects like other stimulants like blow, it’s didn’t dry me out and make me jittery like ephedrine. There was no super-human levels of concentration, I didn’t feel like I had to scrub the bathroom tile, nor did I get a ton of work done that I otherwise wouldn’t have finished.
I didn’t really notice anything except that I wasn’t tired at 4 AM. I didn’t slip into post-prandial fogs either.
I eventually stopped using it because it prevented me from falling asleep when I really needed to. I’d recommend starting with half a dose and taking it at least 18 hours before you think you might need to get to bed. If I was going to wake up at 8 AM and knew I was going to be back in bed by 10 PM, but was looking for something to keep me alert, this wouldn’t be my choice. It doesn’t obviate the need to sleep.
Okay, so I have experience with both adderall ir/xr, but for obvious health reasons I moved away from it.
I’m aware of everything you’ve mentioned, and that is why I’m interested in it, but I’m curious about any long term issues you might’ve noticed besides the annoying sleep hindrance? I have 630 bus to catch every day so I wake up at 530 and pop it.
I’m hoping to augment my current/recent prozac regiment with modafinil
No longer term issues at all.
ime, a full dose kept me up longer but didn’t make me more awake. A half dose was good for 16-18 hours of fatigue free performance.
one last thing, when it wears off, be near someplace you can sleep. You’ll go from alert to really-fucking-tired in about 30 minutes.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
No longer term issues at all.
ime, a full dose kept me up longer but didn’t make me more awake. A half dose was good for 16-18 hours of fatigue free performance.
one last thing, when it wears off, be near someplace you can sleep. You’ll go from alert to really-fucking-tired in about 30 minutes.[/quote]
lmao yeah, I started with a half, and I’m currently doing quarters.
Thanks, that eases my mind.
[quote]Claudan wrote:
Does anyone have experience with the aforementioned over the span of at least a year? [/quote]
Not quite a year, but several weeks on patrol. Also one called “modalert” that I think is government-only issue that I still have probably 100 of.
They work. They don’t make you jittery. I was the opposite of addicted, but rather releaved when I didn’t have to take one. Bit of a strung-out feeling after a week.
Sometimes, I got really, really irritable (like I was itching to shoot someone/anyone – not ideal state of mind when you are walking around with a machine gun) and there are some pretty good arguments relating to when soldiers did really, really bad things you read about, it was after a grueling event and a week or so on this stuff.
Steroids and any of these would probably make someone a legitimate “roid rage” candidate — something I normally dismiss as bullshit.
My brother was on it for half a year. They absolutely triggered increased aggression in him. So yeah, take it if you don’t mind 'roid rage.
Did you ask your doctor for this or are you obtaining it through other channels?
If I just told my Doc I was planning on working some extreme hours, what are my chances of having him prescribe it?
[quote]theuofh wrote:
Did you ask your doctor for this or are you obtaining it through other channels?
If I just told my Doc I was planning on working some extreme hours, what are my chances of having him prescribe it? [/quote]
Read up on the Provigil website and recite back to your doc in your own words. It’s a Schdule IV controlled substance, but ime there’s no danger of addiction and any pleasurable effects from it’s amphetamine-like structure have been synthesized away.
I explained my circumstances and asked for it specifically. My doc had no problem prescribing it for what is, after all, on-label use. I had been with my doc for 5 years by that point, I don’t know what his reaction would have been had I walked in off the street.
It is a smooth feeling, no discernible ‘on’ surge like with conventional stims. I feel capable and intelligent (more than usual lol).
But after even a few doses over a few days, I feel like sleep is not enough, kind of a hollowed-out feeling. And also, I did not suffer fools at all whilst using this. It made me quite robotic/non-emotional
[quote]dannyrat wrote:
But after even a few doses over a few days, I feel like sleep is not enough, kind of a hollowed-out feeling.[/quote]
right on, I sometimes wake up and feel like I “picked up” right where I left off 7 hours earlier.
[quote]theuofh wrote:
Did you ask your doctor for this or are you obtaining it through other channels?
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other channels but I don’t think it would be very hard to get through a doctor, esp not for me since this is becoming a common next step in depression treatment.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
My brother was on it for half a year. They absolutely triggered increased aggression in him. So yeah, take it if you don’t mind 'roid rage.[/quote]
This definitely can’t be ignored but huge generalizations aren’t my thing.
I get angry from not eating and not sleeping, so there are many reasons to get angry and sometimes could be convenient to use a pill as an excuse to fly off the handle. At least personally, I practice tons of rational thinking whenever I feel like my emotions are starting to heavily cloud my thought-process.
I have no idea why you’d want to become dependent on something, especially when it has physiological and behavioral consequences.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I have no idea why you’d want to become dependent on something, especially when it has physiological and behavioral consequences.[/quote]
You assume way too much. Just because your bro took it every day, non-stop, in high dosage, doesn’t mean every person on the planet wants to do the same thing. Some of us do not take our brains for granted.
Hey I don’t care man go ahead. Just don’t become dependent on shit like this.
I recently started using methyl b12, methyl folate, adob12, and L carnatine fumarate for methylation support, treating lyme disease so my natural atp production was hampered as a result of infection…
It has given me massive amounts of energy though and I am never that tired anymore… I think its probably the methyl b12 and possibly the methyl folate that helps the most but probably would be a good option if you wanted to be more awake and alert without pharm drugs, its a bit cheaper I imagine as well…
philosophically speaking,
would you take a drug that “opened” up your life to you, but in the long run would kill you quicker
or
would you not take the drug, not submit your body to the harms of the drug, but spend a majority of your life in a bed/in-front of a TV?
[quote]Claudan wrote:
sometimes could be convenient to use a pill as an excuse to fly off the handle. At least personally, I practice tons of rational thinking whenever I feel like my emotions are starting to heavily cloud my thought-process.
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Sure. But any of these make you more likely to “fly off the handle” and you are more likely to fail to think things out as you suggest.
Alone, these drugs are not enough to do it, but you start adding hay to that proverbial camel’s back, and this might be the straw.