Well… my hair is falling out very very fast and i need to stop it. I am seriously considering trying propecia/finasteride. I know there are so many horror stories about the long term side effects. But to be honest, i dont know how many guys got bad longterm sides vs those who didnt.
I also read that if you take a small dose every other day or every 3rd day that your chances at sides are much lower. So the purpose of this post is to hear from guys who have taken this drug or are still on it and have had success. I want to know your dose protocol and also i want to hear from those who had a bad time on it as well and when they stopped, did they return to normal soon after or not?
Thank you. And yes ive tried minoxidil with fin 2% and im not happy with the results. My doc is actually on propecia for many years and is pushing me to take it and telling me not to listen to those who had the post fin syndrome as that accounts for a super low % of people and is quite rare.
Then listen to this long term study. A lower percentage has been reported, but then we find out Merck has been getting judges to hide the risks and dangers of the baldness drug, only it was published as public record by mistake.
Your doctor was duped as well, wasn’t told the whole story.
Dude my life has changed forever and I’m just one of the thousands and thousands. June 2009 was my last pill. This should 100% be off the market for cosmetic purposes. I had no idea I could be screwed after stopping the drug. There isn’t too many drugs I know of that can do that. I mean if you or anyone else think your life sucks with hairloss, you couldn’t even begin to imagine how much life would suck if you got bit. You can get bit after 1 pill, many have. Or you can get bit after you stop taking 10 yrs later… or anytime in between.
If you need further convincing go to propeciahlep or pfsfoundation.org, the latter has a suicide counter you may find interesting.
Someone will tell you it worked great for them though.
What exactly happened to you and what was your dosage and how long were you taking it? And what sides do you still have and which ones got resolved?
I told my doc about that site and he scoffed at it and told me to stop researching so much amd that i am focusing on less than 1% of the users. He actually started getting annoyed when i would being up the syndrome. He uses himself as am example of the drug being safe as he had been on it for over 10 yrs with no problems.
I know this is a high risk drug. But lets say if i did a trial of like 1 mg every other day or e3d for a month or 2, would that be a safer approach to testing this drug out?
Im really stuck here. I can lower my test cyp dose but then i will lose the + libido and energy and other effects and it will become pointless to even be taking it. Im at 80mg a week 40mg 2x a week and even at that dose i am losing a ton of hair. I am so sensitive to the nasty effects of DHT.
Haha imagine a doctor saying don’t research. This guy probably makes a few bucks from Merck if he signs you up. But, here’s the kicker… I took propecia for probably 12yrs. Stopping a few months here and there. I guess I got lucky those few times, but, then one day 12 yrs after starting it, I bust an empty nut. Thought wtf? Then half as hard dick after that. My facial hair literally stopped growing for 2 weeks. It was just the beginning. Your doctor shouldn’t count his propecia is safe chickens, just yet.
The sides are a death by a thousand cuts. If you want to know the complete list just go to propeciahelp forum and check out the new member posts. They include a common checklist of sides you will surely get.
You think having high dht side effects is bad, you should imagine trying to function as though you have zero dht.
I use to tell guys to try rogaine instead but lately I’ve read more stories on these guys getting burned too. Also, accutane, antidepressants, saw palmetto, there’s a lot. It’s truly Russian roulette.
Hair doesn’t mean shit,man. Take your health and run. Oh and using 1 pill every 3 days would probably be even worse. Just as many guys get screwed after they stop. So you’d be interrupting the hormones even more probably. There is no safe way to take this poison. Honestly, I’m not trying to scare you, there’s a way higher percentage of you getting side effects than you think. Merck even got caught lying about concealing side effects during the drug trials. It was uncovered in unsealed documents recently in court. Just google merck + court + unsealed and you’ll probably find it.
Just go to pfsfoundation.org and if you take it after that. I don’t know what to tell ya.
Hi Guys, you might want to take a look at this article/research paper from The National Library of Medicine.
Title: Exogenous testosterone (T) alone or with finasteride increases physical performance, grip strength, and lean body mass in older men with low serum T.
I’ve included the link at the bottom of this message. Also scroll down the page of that site and see other related research papers. They make for interesting reading for men who may be on HRT as well as Finasteride/Propecia.
Hope it is of some use.
Cheers, Jolyon
I’ve been taking .5 mg on M,W,F for about 3 weeks now. I am taking 200 mg test per week, but throw in a blast every now and then (probably TRT or cruise for double the time I am blasting). My DHT on the TRT dose pre finasteride was above range.
I think a lot of the guys who get symptoms have some things in common. They often don’t have high DHT levels, and are just very prone to balding. Taking the finasteride lowers DHT to too low of a level. In some cases, I think many were close to having low T to start with, and the reduction in DHT brought them over the edge.
I think for one who is on TRT, and have top level FT and DHT (or over), I don’t think many get sides. I actually think libido has gone up a bit.
I am viewing this maybe from a different perspective though. A bit of a performance enhancing and experimental view. Some drugs don’t agree with everybody, and others do fine. For me the potential upside (having great hair into old age) was worth the experiment.
I do think the number of guys who actually get sides is higher than 1-2%. One study looked at sexual sides in men. 15% reported sexual sides, but the placebo group about 7-8% reported sexual sides. I feel the actual amount who get legit sides is about 15%-7.5% = 7.5%.
I don’t know how many get sides while on exogenous test. I know 2 other guys who take it, and neither said it had any impact. I don’t think I have been taking it long enough to weigh in.