Proof Gay Marriage is Wrong

[quote]Chris Aus wrote:
Zeb,

I cant find the old post this thread is insanely long.[/quote]

I can’t fault you there Chris. This is one very long thread.

[quote]Im just wondering why when given other lifestyle habits that cause higher mortality, disease and lower quality of life you seek to address the underlieing problems rather than just not let them marry…

Why is it that you dont do the same for gays?[/quote]

Chris here is the underlying problem: It is dangerous for a man to place his penis inside of another mans rectum. It’s as simple as that! I have given the medical reasons on this a few times, need them again?

The entire relationship is predicated upon this happening-Or some other form of sex which seems to cause some horrible consequences according to the statistics.

Chris, those who are born into rural poverty DO NOT have a choice.

Those born black, DO NOT have a choice.

Those born female DO NOT have a choice.

For the above groups of people allowances are and should be made in order to “even out” the playing field. Call me a compassionate conservative (I know my opponents on this thread won’t say that). But I believe that evening out the playing field and giving someone a helping hand who was born into abject poverty is the right thing to do!

Even though we have had many liberal groups screaming that gays are born that way there has been no proof to substantiate this wild claim.

In fact, many who have had a same sex attraction for many years have been turned around so that they do not have such an attraction. Please read my most recent post to WMD (Second half). In that post are study after study which verify that many have left homosexuality.

This would indicate that one is NOT in fact “born that way.” Unfortunately, these facts spit in the face of the powerful gay lobbies and they are swept under the covers so that the status quo can be continued.

It’s an awful state of affairs when politics means more than people!

Chris, you are taking a big leap of liberal faith and assuming that gays are more depressed than the general population simply because they might not be as readily accepted.

First of all, do you agree that homosexuality is more accepted currently than it was 35 years ago? I don’t think anyone can argue that this is the case.

Then why is it that the incidence of suicide, anxiety and depression in the homosexual community is actually higher now than it was 35 years ago?

The reason seems to be that it is not simply “acceptance” which causes the emotional problems among this group. It is the lifestlye!

According to most statistics it is an unfullfilling, promiscuous, dangerous, lonely existance which does not get any better with more acceptance. In fact an argument can now be made that it has gottern WORSE with more acceptence.

If we love these people and really want to accept them we will stop telling them that they are “born that way.” We will give them encouragement and love. And those who want to try to “change” should be encouraged to do so.

No one is asking anyone to “stay in the closet.” If someone is actualy happy and healthy being a practicing homosexual and wants and needs no help then there is no need to help them.

(We are not talking about Christian faith as the Bible is clear that the practice is wrong.)

But, what about the very large percentage who are not happy? They are not happy because of the lifestyle and because they think that there is no way out. The social liberals who tell homosexuals that they are “born that way” are doing far more damage than any conservative could. And they do it in the name of political correctness. It’s a liberal logic which puts political concern over peoples health, happiness and general well being.

[quote]It seems that your stance here (with respect to this aspect only) is founded upon your general belief that homosexuality is wrong, rather than it being part of the reason…
[/quote]

It’s all of those things Chris!

[quote]Chris Aus wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Chris Aus wrote:
to those that think that homosexuality is something that you just do to be cool or whatever…

How much would you need to be paid to let someone analy penetrate you… to have sex with you?

Id dont think there is enough money in the world… I just wouldnt do it…

I cant fathom someone doing it to be cool… all that i can say is that that someoen who does that is very very very different to me…

How much would you need to be paid to do it once?

What about to spend the rest of your life living with a member of the same sex regurarly having homosexual sex…

to me i just can not fathom it…

I just cant see social influences playing as big a role as you guys are making out…

How old are you Chris? Are you a young child? Growing up in a home with two daddies? Or two mommies? Just curious…

And, thanks for pointing out how strange and gross the act really is.

We can all be smart arses…

How old are you? Do you have repressed homosexual tendencies?

I’m old enough, thanks…

I may not have articulated it well, but seriously to me its unfathomable to think that someone would be gay to fit societal pressures, or to be in fashion… especially when societal pressures push more in the fitting in with the straight community…

It’s not scientific but I’d bet that most straight men would agree with me…

its also no less scientific then a lot of what has been said so far :-)[/quote]

Seriously Chris. If you are an adult heterosexual male who is already grounded in his sexual desires, your views will be different than if you were a 5 year old boy with two daddies. And, to promulgate the matter, schools are now telling these little kids that being gay is OK.

I can appreciate you’re lack of interest in the act itself, but I don’t think you are the impressionable youth I am worried about.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_fuel.htm

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/assault/genetics/

How 'homophobic' Are You? | Assault On Gay America | FRONTLINE | PBS (feel free to take this test)

"A federal study released Thursday showed the number of Americans who contract the AIDS virus through heterosexual sex remains stubbornly high showing no sign of dropping. Heterosexuals now account for about a third of HIV diagnoses with three-quarters of those being among African Americans.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention findings are an indication that the federal government’s war on AIDS may have stalled and that the disease could be poised for a resurgence after declining sharply for much of the 1990s. A total of 9,156 teenagers and adults were diagnosed in 2002 with HIV that resulted from heterosexual contact compared with 8,925 such cases in 1999, according to an analysis of 1999-2002 health data by the CDC. Heterosexuals made up 35 percent of the 101,877 HIV diagnoses included in the study.

The study found that blacks made up 74 percent of the 36,084 heterosexually-acquired HIV cases diagnosed between 1999 and 2002. Sixty-four percent of these new HIV infections were in women. The gender disparity was highest among teenage girls, who accounted for 89 percent of new heterosexually-acquired HIV diagnoses in the 13-19 age group, according to the CDC. Limited access to HIV prevention services and medical care as well as a lack of knowledge about the risks of contracting the virus were cited as factors likely contributing to the racial and gender disparities.

Since first being diagnosed in 1981, AIDS has killed about half a million Americans, most of them believed to be homosexuals and intravenous drug users, though people outside these high-risk groups are now on the rise with about 40,000 Americans contracting HIV each year. Much of the 80’s were spent by prominent leaders such as then Republican Senator Jesse Helms denying the disease posed any threat to heterosexuals. Even as late as 1988 Helms continued to lead the Republican fight against research and prevention funding citing that “there is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy.”

Just for fun: "At a House Appropriations hearing in 1969, the Defense Department’s Biological Warfare (BW) division requested funds to develop through gene-splicing a new disease that would both resist and break down a victim’s immune system. “Within the next 5 to 10 years it would probably be possible to make a new infective micro-organism which could differ in certain important respects from any known disease-causing organisms. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious diseases.” (See - A Higher Form of Killing: The Secret Story of Chemical and Biological Warfare by R. Harris and J. Paxman, p 266, Hill and Wang, pubs.) The funds were approved.

AIDS appeared within the requested time frame, and has the exact characteristics specified.

In 1972, the World Health Organization published a similar proposal: “An attempt should be made to ascertain whether viruses can in fact exert selective effects on immune function, e.g., by …affecting T cell function as opposed to B cell function. The possibility should also be looked into that the immune response to the virus itself may be impaired if the infecting virus damages more or less selectively the cells responding to the viral antigens.” (Bulletin of the W.H.O., vol. 47, p 257- 274.) This is a clinical description of the function of the AIDS virus.

The incidence of AIDS infections in Africa coincides exactly with the locations of the W.H.O. smallpox vaccination program in the mid-1970’s (London Times, May 11, 1987). Some 14,000 Haitians then on UN secondment to Central Africa were also vaccinated in this campaign. Personnel actually conducting the vaccinations may have been completely unaware that the vaccine was anything other than what they were told."

http://dermatology.jwatch.org/cgi/content/full/1994/501/16

"Over 36 million people worldwide are living with HIV/AIDS, and over 22 million people have died from AIDS since the beginning of the epidemic (1). The proportion of women living with HIV has risen steadily in recent years. Five years ago, 41% of HIV-positive adults were women; by 2000, that number had risen to 47% (2). In sub-Saharan Africa, where the primary mode of HIV transmission is heterosexual intercourse, 55% of HIV-positive adults are women (1).

The main HIV prevention tools–condoms, reducing the number of sexual partners, and treatment of reproductive tract infections–are not feasible for many women (3, 4). After 2 decades of male condom promotion, the absolute number of male condoms used worldwide has increased dramatically. However, consistent condom use remains difficult to achieve, and resistance to condom use in some settings, such as primary partnerships, remains high. Women often have limited ability to get their male partners to use condoms due to social, cultural, and economic gender inequalities. In some countries, the female condom has increased options for protection against HIV somewhat, but problems with long-term acceptability have been reported, and female condoms cannot be used without the cooperation of men (6, 7).

Reducing the number of sexual partners may not be feasible for those women who, because of limited educational and employment opportunities, are financially dependent on their male partners. Furthermore, a significant proportion of women are infected by their husbands. Even when women themselves are monogamous, their partners may not be.

Finally, women often are not treated for reproductive tract infections, or treatment is delayed. The majority of reproductive tract infections in women are asymptomatic, which makes women less likely to seek treatment and makes diagnosis difficult in the absence of laboratory testing (8). Although research on a preventive HIV vaccine is critically important and moving forward, it will be some time before a vaccine is available and accessible (9).

There is, therefore, an urgent need to extend the range of prevention methods available, particularly those that women can control. A microbicide is a product that is applied topically inside the vagina or rectum to prevent infection with HIV and potentially a number of bacterial and viral sexually transmitted infections (STIs). They may take any of a number of forms, including gels, creams, or suppositories, and may or may not be spermicidal. In the case of vaginal sex, microbicides are inserted by women and therefore only require passive acquiescence of men. Microbicides could be used alone, or in combination with a physical barrier, to provide increased protection or backup in case of barrier failure (10). For many women and couples, the importance of having children is a major obstacle to condom use, and noncontraceptive microbicides would give them an option with which to protect themselves from HIV while trying to conceive (11). By reducing the risk of HIV infection in women, microbicides would contribute to a reduction in mother-to-child transmission. They may also prevent transmission from women to their male partners and reinfection in women who are already HIV-positive. Additional research is investigating ways that microbicides can be formulated for use in the rectum during anal sex (12)."

For lorisco: "How the AIDS epidemic actually began, what the contributing factors were, and why it appeared in the mid- to late 20th century (and not before) are not known. Whatever the final answers are, they must account for (i) at least seven separate introductions of SIVcpz and SIVsm viruses into humans; (ii) the fact that the HIV-1 group M, N, and O viruses are significantly more closely related to SIVcpz viruses from P. t. troglodytes (the common chimpanzee) than to the single SIVcpz isolate from P. t. schweinfurthii (another kind of chimp); and (iii) the estimation of 1930 (range 1910 to 1950) as the timing of the last common ancestor of the HIV-1 group M viruses.

Two competing hypotheses have sought to explain the AIDS outbreaks. One, favored by our group, suggests that SIVcpz and SIVsm have been transmitted to humans as a result of cutaneous or mucous membrane exposure to infected animal blood (4). Among wild-living primates, biting and predation represent the most likely means of infection (17-19). In humans, direct exposure to animal blood and secretions as a result of hunting, butchering, or other activities (such as consumption of uncooked contaminated meat) provides a plausible explanation for the transmission of lentiviruses from primates to humans. Figure 4 is an example of the kind of exposure to animal blood regularly experienced by hunters and food handlers. There is precedent for direct blood and virus contact leading to human infection by HIV-1 and SIVsm in health care and primate center workers (38)" http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/287/5453/607?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=AIDS&searchid=1135268154894_6519&FIRSTINDEX=10&journalcode=sci#RF4

“Although sub-Saharan Africa remains the global epicenter, rates of infection have increased in recent times in the former Soviet Union and parts of south and southeast Asia, including India and China, where literally hundreds of millions of individuals are potentially at risk. In the United States, new waves of infection have been recognized in women, minorities,etc”(from the same article)

And this website seems to refute a few of ZEBs assertions. I find the irony fantastic.
http://traditionalvalues.org/urban/five.php

Okay, it’s a nice day so I’m going outside to play.

ZEB said: "Chris here is the underlying problem: It is dangerous for a man to place his penis inside of another mans rectum. It’s as simple as that! I have given the medical reasons on this a few times, need them again? "

It is dangerous for one man to put his penis in another mans rectum but it’s totally safe and clean for a man to put his penis in a womans rectum because women don’t use their rectums for pooping.

Wow, that is simple.

terbleivan said: "Seriously Chris. If you are an adult heterosexual male who is already grounded in his sexual desires, your views will be different than if you were a 5 year old boy with two daddies. And, to promulgate the matter, schools are now telling these little kids that being gay is OK.

I can appreciate you’re lack of interest in the act itself, but I don’t think you are the impressionable youth I am worried about"

Because, you know, all those gay teachers and stuff like to give demos on butt sex in their classrooms. And straight teachers never molest little girls.

[quote]simon-hecubus wrote:
Lorisco wrote:

Scott, you need to read your bible closer Bro. The bible defines sexual immorality as guys having sex with guys; women with woman; adultery; fornication; and incest. Nothing is mentioned about what a man does with his spouse.

Adultery? As in any sex outside of marriage?
[/quote]

The gender issue is already covered under the “no sex with a same sex person” direction. So the gender issue under adultery is already understood.

[quote]WMD wrote:
ZEB said: "Chris here is the underlying problem: It is dangerous for a man to place his penis inside of another mans rectum. It’s as simple as that! I have given the medical reasons on this a few times, need them again? "

It is dangerous for one man to put his penis in another mans rectum but it’s totally safe and clean for a man to put his penis in a womans rectum because women don’t use their rectums for pooping.

Wow, that is simple.[/quote]

Illogical…Illogical…Will not compute…

Come on, sweatheart. Zeb never said anything about a man putting his willie in a girl’s behind. Don’t stick words in his mouth.

Jeeezzzze - you’ve not only lost the argument, but you’ve lost your mind.

[quote]WMD wrote:
terbleivan said: "Seriously Chris. If you are an adult heterosexual male who is already grounded in his sexual desires, your views will be different than if you were a 5 year old boy with two daddies. And, to promulgate the matter, schools are now telling these little kids that being gay is OK.

I can appreciate you’re lack of interest in the act itself, but I don’t think you are the impressionable youth I am worried about"

Because, you know, all those gay teachers and stuff like to give demos on butt sex in their classrooms. And straight teachers never molest little girls.
[/quote]

I’m just thankful I never attended one of those demos.

Seriously babe, get a grip. You’re begining to sound like a loon.

[quote]WMD wrote:

"A federal study released Thursday showed the number of Americans who contract the AIDS virus through heterosexual sex remains stubbornly high showing no sign of dropping. Heterosexuals now account for about a third of HIV diagnoses with three-quarters of those being among African Americans.
[/quote]
Instead of trying to justify dangerous behavior by saying other behavior is just as bad, why don’t you just try to help the other people who need help?

[quote]Chris Aus wrote:
to those that think that homosexuality is something that you just do to be cool or whatever…

How much would you need to be paid to let someone analy penetrate you… to have sex with you?

Id dont think there is enough money in the world… I just wouldnt do it…

I just cant see social influences playing as big a role as you guys are making out…[/quote]

Usually the younger you are the more impressionable you are.

Take it from there Chris…

[quote]terribleivan wrote:
Since everyone around here likes personal stories so much, I’ve got one for you -

In the city I live there is a park. It’s a real nice park. It’s got slides and sand, fields and a bike path. And, it’s got a nice large forestry. It looks like the kind of place a family would take the kids for a relaxing afternoon. But, it’s not.

You see, this park has been overrun by homosexuals. It’s been going on for over 20 years, and it’s only getting worse. It used to be, that the gays would wait till night to do what they do at the park. But those days are gone. Now, they’ll do it in broad daylight.

Oh. You’re wondering what they do? I’ll tell you. They cruise the park looking for other gays. They make eyecontact. And then, they take a walk into the woods. Does that sound too bizzare to be true? Well, it is true.

A local newscrew decided to do a story on it a couple of months ago. In broad daylight they took a walk through the woods. And do you know what they found? Men with men! The men scattered like cockroaches, and left behind soiled pillows and lubricants. If memory serves me correctly, on one random day, in broad daylight, the crew found 3 groups of gay men doing what they do. IN BROAD DAYLIGHT!!!

One gay man stuck around to defend himself. When asked why, the gay man responded “I’m old and I’m lonely.”

Tell me…does this constitue risky sexual behavior? My contention is that it does. [/quote]

Personal accounts such as this back up statistics such as these:

"Homosexual Promiscuity

Studies indicate that the average male homosexual has hundreds of sex partners in his lifetime: A.P. Bell and M.S. Weinberg, in their classic study of male and female homosexuality, found that 43 percent of white male homosexuals had sex with 500 or more partners, with 28 percent having 1,000 or more sex partners.9

In their study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven et al., found that only 2.7 percent claimed to have had sex with one partner only.

The most common response, given by 21.6 percent of the respondents, was of having a hundred-one to five hundred lifetime sex partners.10

A survey conducted by the homosexual magazine Genre found that 24 percent of the respondents said they had had more than a hundred sexual partners in their lifetime. The magazine noted that several respondents suggested including a category of those who had more than a thousand sexual partners.11

In his study of male homosexuality in Western Sexuality: Practice and Precept in Past and Present Times, M. Pollak found that "few homosexual relationships last longer than two years, with many men reporting hundreds of lifetime partners."12

HOW MANY HOMOSEXUALS ARE ACTUALLY COMMTTED TO LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP?

"Promiscuity among Homosexual Couples. Even in those homosexual relationships in which the partners consider themselves to be in a committed relationship, the meaning of “committed” typically means something radically different from marriage.

? In The Male Couple, authors David P. McWhirter and Andrew M. Mattison reported that in a study of a hundred-fifty-six males in homosexual relationships lasting from one to thirty-seven years,

Only seven couples have a totally exclusive sexual relationship, and these men all have been together for less than five years. Stated another way, all couples with a relationship lasting more than five years have incorporated some provision for outside sexual activity in their relationships.[13]

? In Male and Female Homosexuality, M. Saghir and E. Robins found that the average male homosexual live-in relationship lasts between two and three years.[14]"

[quote]WMD wrote:
ZEB said: "Chris here is the underlying problem: It is dangerous for a man to place his penis inside of another mans rectum. It’s as simple as that! I have given the medical reasons on this a few times, need them again? "

It is dangerous for one man to put his penis in another mans rectum but it’s totally safe and clean for a man to put his penis in a womans rectum because women don’t use their rectums for pooping.

Wow, that is simple.[/quote]

Your lack of logic is astounding at times (and so much education too).

Because I did not state that it is dangerous you automatically assume that I think it isn’t?

We were (and are) talking about homosexual behavior. Should I qualify every statement from this point forward in order to satisfy your illogical assumptions?

[quote]WMD wrote:
terbleivan said: "Seriously Chris. If you are an adult heterosexual male who is already grounded in his sexual desires, your views will be different than if you were a 5 year old boy with two daddies. And, to promulgate the matter, schools are now telling these little kids that being gay is OK.

I can appreciate you’re lack of interest in the act itself, but I don’t think you are the impressionable youth I am worried about"

Because, you know, all those gay teachers and stuff like to give demos on butt sex in their classrooms. And straight teachers never molest little girls.
[/quote]
I think the topic is on “gay marriage” not gay teachers.

Can two gay parents influence a child to become gay through words as well as actions?

How do children learn, do you know?

[quote]terribleivan wrote:
Since everyone around here likes personal stories so much, I’ve got one for you -

In the city I live there is a park. It’s a real nice park. It’s got slides and sand, fields and a bike path. And, it’s got a nice large forestry. It looks like the kind of place a family would take the kids for a relaxing afternoon. But, it’s not.

You see, this park has been overrun by homosexuals. It’s been going on for over 20 years, and it’s only getting worse. It used to be, that the gays would wait till night to do what they do at the park. But those days are gone. Now, they’ll do it in broad daylight.

Oh. You’re wondering what they do? I’ll tell you. They cruise the park looking for other gays. They make eyecontact. And then, they take a walk into the woods. Does that sound too bizzare to be true? Well, it is true.

A local newscrew decided to do a story on it a couple of months ago. In broad daylight they took a walk through the woods. [/quote]

Did you never consider the possibility that they really were
naturelovers masquerading as homosexuals?

You have a one track mind.

J.K. couldn’t help myself

You post websites that talk about homophobia?

That is totally absurd regarding our discussion on this thread. But then there is no where else for you to take it is there?

You have been beaten on the facts. It’s now simply time to sit back and scream HOMOPHOBE! LOL

Yea that’s liberal logic…

[quote]WMD wrote:

"A federal study released Thursday showed the number of Americans who contract the AIDS virus through heterosexual sex remains stubbornly high showing no sign of dropping. Heterosexuals now account for about a third of HIV diagnoses with three-quarters of those being among African Americans. [/quote]

Yes, but homosexuals who comprise about 1% to 3% of the population account for over half of all AIDS cases!

And what about this:

“According to the Centers for Disease Control, homosexual men are a thousand times more likely to contract AIDS than heterosexuals.[8] The list of other contagious diseases that homosexuals are at high-risk of acquiring is as long as your arm. The risk of anal cancer soars to an astounding 4000 % for those engaging in anal intercourse compared to those who don?t, and it doubles again for those who are HIV positive”

THAT IS A STAGGERING FIGURE-YOU JUST CAN’T HIDE FROM THAT ONE WMD!

Yes, but homosexuals made up 50% of all new cases! And remember they comprise only 1% to 3% of the total population. AMAZING HUH?

Thank you for backing up my point. :slight_smile:

Yes WMD the government was homophobic and created AIDS so that homosexuals would get sick and die…(eye roll).

You seem to want to grab hold of every wacky theory and liberal logic talking point that you can in order to remove any sort of responsibility from the actor for his/her actions!

Could it be that the anus was not meant for sex and that any entry into it by a penis can set the climate for disease?

Not very politically correct but OH SO TRUE:

VAGINA
? has an acidic environment which hinders bacterial and viral growth

RECTUM
? has an alkaline environment, which promotes bacterial and viral growth

VAGINA
? is lined by a thick layer of stratified squamous epithelium which is resistant to tearing ?

RECTUM
is lined by a thin layer of simple cuboidal epithelium which can tear easily with unnatural forces

VAGINA
? secretes a lubricant during intercourse ?

RECTUM
does not secrete a lubricant, only expels feces

In short, we should use the body as God (God haters or those who deny the existence of God may use the word Nature here) had intended to be used!

Yes, WMD we know that it is a world wide problem that effects heterosexuals as well. However, you cannot get around the fact that over half of the people in America who have AIDS are homosexuals. And as I have stated they comprise only 1% to 3% of the population.

Remember WMD:

“According to the Centers for Disease Control, homosexual men are a thousand times more likely to contract AIDS than heterosexuals.”

Do you think they might be doing something wrong here?

When (in nature) does good behavior ever get punished and bad behavior reward, outside politics that is :slight_smile:

True but what is known is that homosexuals have been the predominant victims and carriers of this dreaded disease. because of their unhealthly sex practicies and general lifestyle.

WMD, why can’t you simply face the truth? The truth does not make you or any other person with same sex attraction “bad.”

I have to point out a GROSS ERROR on WMD’s part in one of her more recent posts.

[quote]WMD Wrote:

And this website

http://traditionalvalues.org/urban/one-a.php

seems to refute a few of ZEBs assertions. I find the irony fantastic.
http://traditionalvalues.org/urban/five.php

Okay, it’s a nice day so I’m going outside to play.[/quote]

You might have been better off actually reading the web site instead of posting it quickly, and bringing it into the debate. If you had taken the time to do so you would have read the home page which clearly states:

“This informational service is designed to provide reporters, editors, and other opinion leaders with accurate information on the relationship between homosexuality and the molestation of children. It will also expose and debunk dozens of factually inaccurate urban legends created by homosexual activist groups to promote their political and social agenda.

OOPS!

Since YOU have brought this web site into the debate let’s take a closer look at what this site has to say about homosexuals:

"Homosexual pedophiles sexually molest children at a far greater rate compared to the percentage of homosexuals in the general population. A study in the Journal of Sex Research found, that “approximately one-third of [child sex offenders] had victimized boys and two-thirds had victimized girls.” The authors then make a prescient observation:

In other words, although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses."

"The effort to abolish “age of consent” laws has been a long-time goal of homosexual activists. The 1972 Gay Rights Platform, for example, called for the abolition of all laws prohibiting sex with children. The platform demands: “Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent.”

Homosexual Males are Sexually Attracted to Underage Boys. (according to statistics on a web site that YOU first brought to our attention)

"A study in Archives of Sexual Behavior found that homosexual men are attracted to young males. The study compared the sexual age preferences of heterosexual men, heterosexual women, homosexual men, and lesbians. The results showed that, in marked contrast to the other three categories, “all but 9 of the 48 homosexual men preferred the youngest two male age categories,” which included males as young as age fifteen. 36 "

Oh here is something interesting that actually coincides with other statistics that I have posted:

“Do you think that this might be one potential reason for some growing up with same sex attraction?”

"The Archives of Sexual Behavior reports: “One of the most salient findings of this study is that 46 percent of homosexual men and 22 percent of homosexual women reported having been molested by a person of the same gender. This contrasts to only 7 percent of heterosexual men and 1 percent of heterosexual women reporting having been molested by a person of the same gender.” 70

I’m not sure, but I don’t think that I have ever seen a site so loaded with statistics regarding homosexual behavior.

WMD: I hope that you had fun outside “playing.” I thank you for introducing yet more relevant data into our ongoing debate.

[quote]WMD wrote:
ZEB said: "Chris here is the underlying problem: It is dangerous for a man to place his penis inside of another mans rectum. It’s as simple as that! I have given the medical reasons on this a few times, need them again? "

It is dangerous for one man to put his penis in another mans rectum but it’s totally safe and clean for a man to put his penis in a womans rectum because women don’t use their rectums for pooping.

Wow, that is simple.[/quote]

Nice try, but Zeb never stated that was ok either. You are trying to put words in his mouth, but it’s not working.

[quote]grey wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Since everyone around here likes personal stories so much, I’ve got one for you -

In the city I live there is a park. It’s a real nice park. It’s got slides and sand, fields and a bike path. And, it’s got a nice large forestry. It looks like the kind of place a family would take the kids for a relaxing afternoon. But, it’s not.

You see, this park has been overrun by homosexuals. It’s been going on for over 20 years, and it’s only getting worse. It used to be, that the gays would wait till night to do what they do at the park. But those days are gone. Now, they’ll do it in broad daylight.

Oh. You’re wondering what they do? I’ll tell you. They cruise the park looking for other gays. They make eyecontact. And then, they take a walk into the woods. Does that sound too bizzare to be true? Well, it is true.

A local newscrew decided to do a story on it a couple of months ago. In broad daylight they took a walk through the woods.

Did you never consider the possibility that they really were
naturelovers masquerading as homosexuals?

You have a one track mind.

J.K. couldn’t help myself

[/quote]

LOL

[quote]WMD Wrote:

And this website

http://traditionalvalues.org/urban/one-a.php

seems to refute a few of ZEBs assertions. I find the irony fantastic.
http://traditionalvalues.org/urban/five.php

Okay, it’s a nice day so I’m going outside to play.
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You know, I knew WMD would bring something valuable to this debate. And lo and behold she has. This is a great website and I encourage anyone who wants to know the truth about the issues we are discussing to visit.

Come on we have to take this baby to 2000 posts!