well said thank you
[quote]VOLSTRIATED wrote:
Thanks for reply last year.
I figure I would update my MASSIVE COMPLEX 30day
Cycle with Himalayan liver cleanse and PCT nolva
I had severe testicular atrophy and
Some acne on shoulders.
I went from a soft 220 to a harder 235
Strength gains were awesome 75lbs on my bench
And 80lbs on my squat.
I paid $50 but now I see its $99 but is illegal now
As of last year Dec 2014.
I would def recommend but take liver cleanse and PCT for your balls
They will shrink big time.i did feel a little weird the 1st week on then
The general weird feeling went away. I did two pills as instructed for 4weeks.
I just learned about “research chemicals” if you talk on forums you will find
What you need except its in liquid and you have to measure out and take PCT that way.
Hope that will help someone who can still find some MASSIVE COMPLEX[/quote]
If you want to keep your balls I suggest you get some hcg. Run that the whole time you run your cycle and during you pct and you will be alright
Dont call me stupid 
but dont know anything about test boosters or streoid.
Sice I told my low t since 6-7 months
Could be the reason of a nootropic testosterone booster as Cellucor p6 extreme black?
Is it a prohormone?
Amount Per Serving % DV **
Vitamin D (As Cholecalciferol) 1,666 IU 416%
Vitamin B6 (As Pyridoxal 5-Phosphate) 2 mg 100%
Magnesium (as D-Aspartic Acid Magnesium Chelate) 135 mg 33%
Zinc (As Zinc Monomethionine) 30 mg 200%
Copper (As Copper Bis (Glycinate) Chelate) 2 mg 100%
Nootropic Testosterone Matrix 2,105mg ?
D-Aspartic Acid Magnesium Chelate, D-Serine, Alpha GPC (L-Alpha-Glycerylphosophorylcholine), 3,3’-Diindolymethane, Androstenolone
Vitamin & Mineral Support Blend 191mg ?
Zinc Monomethionine, Copper Bis (Glycinate) Chelate, Cholecalciferol, Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate
Androgen Support Matrix 167mg ?
Mucuna pruriens Seed Extract, (standardized for L-Dihydroxyphenylalanine), Andrographis paniculata Aerial Parts Extract (standardized for Andrographolides content)
** Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
? Daily Value not established
Other Ingredients:
Gelatin, Vegetable Cellulose, Silica Dioxide, Magnesium Stearate, Titanium Dioxide, FD&C Red #40, FD&C Blue #1, FD&C Yellow #6.
Contains: Soy.
D-Aspartic Acid Magnesium Chelate Is A Panent Of ThermoLife International, LLC And Is Protected by U.S. Patent # 8202908.
After I took this and stopped symptoms begin to start of low t …
I have done every test and nothing came wrong and thıs started right after ı started I used this shit.
Total T = 351 ng/dl
Free* T = 8,00 ng/dl
Fsh 0.44 miu/ml ref 1-15.40
Lh 2.14 miu/ml ref 1.20-7.80
Prolaktin 6.45 ng/ml 1.60-20
Tsh 2.09 iu/ml 0.27-4.20
E2 22.25 pg/ml 11-38
Also have done bilateral varicocele like 1 week ago but now 0 libido .LAbs are just before surgery.
I have also tried clomid only 4 tablets and 1 week later resluts came like this: ( It is before the first test results ı mentioned earlier…
Prolaactin : 10.79 ng/ml ref : 3- 14.70
FSH : 0.76 miu/ml ref: 1.40 - 15.40
LH : 4.02 miu/ml ref : 1.20 - 7.80
e2 : 18.90 pg/ml ref : 11 -38
Total Test : 516.70 ng/ml ref : 300 - 1080
Free Test : 11.20 pg/ml ref : 8.70 - 30
SHBG : 41.40 nmol/l ref : 11-80
So should I got shot down ?
And what should I use ,I feel realy bad that couldnt find the solution for a long time. I hope this time will
the product does contain androstenolone, which is a prohormone, but the label doesn’t say how much is present. It’s unlikely, in my opinion, that this product could cause you to have low testosterone after discontinuing it’s use. And your bloodwork shows your testosterone is within normal range as well.
Your low FSH level could potentially be attributed to the androstenolone. This isn’t likely the cause of your low libido though.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
the product does contain androstenolone, which is a prohormone, but the label doesn’t say how much is present. It’s unlikely, in my opinion, that this product could cause you to have low testosterone after discontinuing it’s use. And your bloodwork shows your testosterone is within normal range as well.
Your low FSH level could potentially be attributed to the androstenolone. This isn’t likely the cause of your low libido though.[/quote]
Man I am 28 years old and never used stroids till now,and this was the only thing that I used different other than my shakes,creatine,vit,bcaa
with t 351 its not normal with my age…
If it is a prohormone so should I try pct with nolva?
Its really pissed me of I m like this almost 6 months right now.
that FSH number is odd… the androstenolone is DHEA, i believe. that could cause the lower test in the first incident, but i guess i don’t know why your FSH hasn’t gone up like test and LH.
you could take a SERM in hopes of bringing it up, but you also might want to see a dr.
Which one should i use?
I have clomid right now but if novla is better i can buy those too.
And what could be the dosage like and how long?
[quote]rasimfb wrote:
Which one should i use?
I have clomid right now but if novla is better i can buy those too.
And what could be the dosage like and how long?[/quote]
Hello Again,
I started 50mg Clomid. 25mg morning and 25mg evening.Today is 10th day
Total T = 351 ng/dl
Free* T = 8,00 ng/dl
Fsh 0.44 miu/ml ref 1-15.40
Lh 2.14 miu/ml ref 1.20-7.80
Prolaktin 6.45 ng/ml 1.60-20
Tsh 2.09 iu/ml 0.27-4.20
E2 22.25 pg/ml 11-38
This was before I started Clomid.and now
Total T = 541 ng/dl
Free* T =
Fsh 1.35 miu/ml ref 1-15.40
Lh 7.33 miu/ml ref 1.20-7.80
Prolaktin 12.99 ng/ml 3 - 14.70
didnt test e2 since as I was on Clomid.
My doctor told me to stay on clomid like 35-40 days and will see after.
So what do you think about the results?
Havent used any streoids but as I mentioned before used test booster supplement and I started to feel of low t symptoms.
I’m just glad to see this info posted here. I want to learn more before I start messing around with anything. I feel more comfortable with the idea of doing an AAS cycle now than i will ever feel about PH, and that’s just because of what people have said here about the tough time PH puts your liver through…looking for more info before I even run an AAS cycle. Thanks guys.
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