[quote]TheSnatchHammer wrote:
Alright so I’m new to all this, but i’ve been lifting for 2 years now. My friend runs a nutrition store that just got in new PH’s called s-roid and h-roid, the h-roid is 25mg per pill and the s-roid, is 10mg. Technically I’m supposed to take 2 s-roids a day, and one h-roid, but he has me doing 3 a day. Is this shit gonna murder me? The s-roid is a form of superdrol and the h-roid in halodrol. I believe[/quote]
No thats a pretty standard dosage for hdrol. 75mg/day to 100mg/day is what I would recommend.
Make sure you have an SERM PCT lined up, and your not likely to suffer any medical problems as long as the cycle is short, 4 weeks or so, and you dont drink.
If one were to dose h-drol at 75mg per day using 25mg caps, would it be more effective to take 1 cap 3 times per day or 2 in the AM and 1 in the PM? I understand that haladrol’s half-life is approx. 12 hrs, so I’m guessing one AM and one PM would suffice, but imagine dosing 3x per day would also pose some benefits.
If one were to dose h-drol at 75mg per day using 25mg caps, would it be more effective to take 1 cap 3 times per day or 2 in the AM and 1 in the PM? I understand that haladrol’s half-life is approx. 12 hrs, so I’m guessing one AM and one PM would suffice, but imagine dosing 3x per day would also pose some benefits.
Any thoughts on this? [/quote]
1 Morning, 2 preworkout will serve you best.
Take the biggest dose 30 minutes or so before you lift.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
1 Morning, 2 preworkout will serve you best.
Take the biggest dose 30 minutes or so before you lift.[/quote]
Perfect. Thanks for the quick response.
I wouldn’t think so, but if I’m aiming for 30 min pre-workout for the 2nd dose would you see any conflict in taking this around the same time as (or probably slightly before) the Anaconda protocol?
I’m doing one every meal basically. Should I change to one in the morning and the 2 pre workout? And what about my superdrol. I take them at the same time i take the halodrol. I’m doing 30 mg of that a day.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
1 Morning, 2 preworkout will serve you best.
Take the biggest dose 30 minutes or so before you lift.[/quote]
Perfect. Thanks for the quick response.
I wouldn’t think so, but if I’m aiming for 30 min pre-workout for the 2nd dose would you see any conflict in taking this around the same time as (or probably slightly before) the Anaconda protocol?[/quote]
[quote]TheSnatchHammer wrote:
I’m doing one every meal basically. Should I change to one in the morning and the 2 pre workout? And what about my superdrol. I take them at the same time i take the halodrol. I’m doing 30 mg of that a day.[/quote]
Yes, 2 preworkout, 1 in morning, same with superdrol, I assume 10mg tabs for the superdrol as most companies are.
Take them at the same time is fine, they are still absorbed, they don’t compete.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Anaconda is food not drugs.
Drugs and food do not interfere. [/quote]
That makes a lot of sense when you put it like that, however since both are ingested orally I wanted to make sure they weren’t competing with each other. I seem to remember hearing something about taking in healthy fats with PH’s to help absorbtion, but I guess that doesn’t apply then?
Final question - On non-lifting days does it still make sense to do 2 doses (and if so, when should the larger one be?) or should it be split into 3 (equal) doses since there is no need to for a pre-workout “boost” on these days?
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Anaconda is food not drugs.
Drugs and food do not interfere. [/quote]
That makes a lot of sense when you put it like that, however since both are ingested orally I wanted to make sure they weren’t competing with each other. I seem to remember hearing something about taking in healthy fats with PH’s to help absorbtion, but I guess that doesn’t apply then?
Final question - On non-lifting days does it still make sense to do 2 doses (and if so, when should the larger one be?) or should it be split into 3 (equal) doses since there is no need to for a pre-workout “boost” on these days?
Thanks for all your help. [/quote]
Yes PH adsorb slightly better with EFA’s, but you should be eating before you workout anyways…so that should cover itself.
And yes, on nonworkout days you can split the dose and spread it out.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Yes PH adsorb slightly better with EFA’s, but you should be eating before you workout anyways…so that should cover itself.[/quote]
Obviously peri-workout nutrition is essential for success (on-cycle or off), but if certain foods can have a positive effect on PH absorbtion, then wouldn’t it stand to reason that others may have a negative impact?
Not questioning your knowledge by any means (that’s why I asked in the first place), just offering up some food for thought.
Either way, thank you for the quick responses and your input.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Yes PH adsorb slightly better with EFA’s, but you should be eating before you workout anyways…so that should cover itself.[/quote]
Obviously peri-workout nutrition is essential for success (on-cycle or off), but if certain foods can have a positive effect on PH absorbtion, then wouldn’t it stand to reason that others may have a negative impact?
Not questioning your knowledge by any means (that’s why I asked in the first place), just offering up some food for thought.
Either way, thank you for the quick responses and your input. [/quote]
Grapefruit juice will raise the level of effectiveness of most orals that are processed in the liver.
And no absorption isn’t effected by foods negatively in any measurable or relevant manner.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
Grapefruit juice will raise the level of effectiveness of most orals that are processed in the liver.
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After reading this I did some googling and found this on the Mayo Clinic website:
“Chemicals in grapefruit juice and grapefruit pulp interfere with the enzymes that break down (metabolize) various drugs in the digestive system… the result can be excessively high levels of these drugs in the blood and an increased risk of potentially serious side effects.”
So if “excessively high levels” means more PH’s floating in the bloodstream, this is definitely a cool tip.
I bought a couple of PHs awhile back and haven’t gotten around to taking them. Recently, I have decided I am going to compete in some USAPL meets in the future and this is a drug free federation so I no longer need these.
If anyone would like more information and are interesting in taking them off my hands for a small monetary donation, please shoot me a pm. I have proper PCT as well.
If this post was inappropriate in any way I sincerely apologize. I do not think I am doing anything wrong here, but if I am I will not bring this up again. Thanks.
Im about to turn 21 in a couple months and i am giving myself enough time to research and get all the information about PHs. A friend of mine turned me to an OTC PH called “Black Magik”.
Black magik has the ingredients of: (one capsule) 10mg of 2a-17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one (superdrol), and 25mg of 4-chloro-17-a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3, 17bdiol (halodrol??) says to take 1 capsule twice daily with 8oz of water.
I want to make sure i get everything down correctly (pre,during,post cycle)
ive come here to ask for suggestions as to what i can take in order to minimize the sides(i have done plenty of research) any suggestions you guys have would be much appreciated.
my stats are:
Age:21 (in a couple months)
Weight: 200
Height: 6’0