That is a fantastic listing! itll help me plan my next purchase for sure.
[quote]ericbyrnesjr wrote:
game_over: there actually is a really, really good list over on (gulp) bb.com. some guy named jonesy made it. i’ll try to find it.
EDIT: forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6422211[/quote]
thats cool thanks for the listing, i was kinda playing devils advocate with that statement as i wouldnt use any PH’s just saying itd be nice for the persons reading this to have a list. thanks again for the contribution
Didn’t 90% of these just get banned or are about to be banned in the next month or so?
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Didn’t 90% of these just get banned or are about to be banned in the next month or so?[/quote]
If you are anyone hears about the banning of specific compounds, post here along with a link to show that they were banned, and I can get them added to the first post.
Thats why i have ordered like 2 years worth already.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Didn’t 90% of these just get banned or are about to be banned in the next month or so?
If you are anyone hears about the banning of specific compounds, post here along with a link to show that they were banned, and I can get them added to the first post.[/quote]
This is a PDF overview of the proposed ban:
http://rs269.rapidshare.com/files/117352255/PH-Ban-doj.pdf
Great information!!!
I took 1-AD for a week. How long will it take to get that shit out of my system to pass a drug tested meet?
I got into Biotest after they stopped producing MAG-10. How come they didn’t make a different, legal version of it to get around the ban? (Sorry if this question sounds stupid)
Pretty much the simple answer is it wouldnt have worked how roberts intended it too. therefore it would have been like every other bullshit PH out there and thats not what Biotest is about
Okay, I think I am going to run Havoc.
I’ve never been on any gear before, so I do not know what training and diet should look like on-cycle. I assume more of each, but if someone could direct me to a good place for diet/training info that would be great.
Also any other pointers before I go on cycle?
I’m assuming you want to do a mass cycle, since you u suggested increasing diet…you need to clarify. Get the wheelbarrow out, cuz thats how much quality chow you’ll be eating everyday if thats the case.
Training is a pretty broad question. For example how do you normally train? What are your goals on this cycle? So on and so forth. There should be plenty already posted on this topic throughout T, so if i find the link(s) I’ll post it for you.
[quote]EstoVir wrote:
Okay, I think I am going to run Havoc.
I’ve never been on any gear before, so I do not know what training and diet should look like on-cycle. I assume more of each, but if someone could direct me to a good place for diet/training info that would be great.
Also any other pointers before I go on cycle? [/quote]
How old are you? Give us your stats so we have something to work with.
Age
Weight
Height
BF% (roughly)
Years Training
Age: 21 (I swear)
Weight: 220
Height: 6ft
BF%: 15%
Years Training: 4 years for Highschool Sports plus another 2 on my own
I usually do splits 3-5 times/week.
Thinking about trying CT’s HSS-100
[quote]EstoVir wrote:
Age: 21 (I swear)
Weight: 220
Height: 6ft
BF%: 15%
Years Training: 4 years for Highschool Sports plus another 2 on my own
I usually do splits 3-5 times/week.
Thinking about trying CT’s HSS-100[/quote]
Are you wanting to bulk or cut?
Bulk
Can you get normal AAS?
Ideally waiting a couple of years and going for Test + (insert substance here) would be ideal.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Can you get normal AAS?
Ideally waiting a couple of years and going for Test + (insert substance here) would be ideal.[/quote]
Makavali makes a good point. As said ealier in the post Test and the like are more predictable nowadays then the new designers. With the way laws are in this country its like these things are reversed, the illegals are probably safer than the legal stuff. We are in essence the Guinea pigs with these new designers and 10 years from now people will be laughing about how (the ways)many of us used them. It is hard to know how to deal with an unpredictable designer steroid, with lots of sides when its your first cycle then it is for someone already experienced with the more traditional gear who may pick up on trouble and how to fix it sooner, having gotten used to how their body responds to things like Test, etc. already.
Did you already buy the Havoc? I’m not trying to tell you the world will fall apart if you go with it, don’t get me wrong, but nonetheless Mak brought up a viable point that was worth expanding on. To use these methylated new steroids in as health-minded a way as possible is actually at least as expensive as the good stuff since you’ll need to compensate for more issues.
Anyway didnt mean to go off on a tangent, just food for thought.
Do you still train in a sports-based type program or did you switch to a bodybuilding type routine, etc.? If you want to cut up or just enhance performance keep doing the things like sprints and power movements. If you want to add as much mass as you can, slow down get more rest, and hit the heavier weights in things like squats and bent over rows and overhead pressing mov’ts. Keep your expenditure low and your intake high outside the gym.
Thanks both of you for you advice.
There is really no chance of me getting AAS, I just have no idea where I would begin looking for them, and I don’t have the stomach to stick myself with a syringe so I would probably use orals if they were available, but they are not.
My interest in Havoc comes mainly from this T-Nation member’s log. He seems to have used it safely and effectively.
http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1623401
I only plan on using it for 3weeks and will pay close attention to any warning signs that I should quit. I have Liv-52 and Cycle Support Powder to help me on the cycle, as well as Flameout.
I also have a solid PCT in place. And plan only to do this once (ever).
I don’t do any sports anymore, so I’m not doing this to “cheat.”
-see post in main steroid forum-