Programming Powerbuilding

That wasn’t what I got from @FlatsFarmer at all. He was saying Ed did not do this in the style you are wanting to attempt.

You could be right yes. I was typing from work and couldnt watch the vids to confirm what he was wanting to say,it got too complicated. Yeah i know not many people have done the style i wanna try,which is why i asked on this forum what ppl think about it.

I hate to be like a wet blanket spoiling all the fun, but I just think this is an interesting topic.

In the Coan/Juggernaut video they talk about how RPE actually goes Down as you progress through the training cycle. As you get stronger and the volume (sets x reps) goes down, the work outs get “easier” and the bar moves faster.

If you start out balls to the wall effort wise and keep up that level of exertion and number of lifts, how long will it take before the weights you are lifting have to start dropping?

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You think i shouldnt experiment and just stick to whats proven to work? Idk man,im in a dilemma.

Curious about your specific dilemma.

You have proven methods, used by some of the best in the sport, with lots of data to back it up.

You also have an unproven method, with no data.

Let’s say this was a question about brain surgery. Your doctor prescribes 2 methods. He explains that the first one is the one he’s always used, and it’s 100% effective, and he’s done it a thousand times. He also tells you that there is a second method, he’s never used it before, and has no idea if it work, but MAYBE it does.

Would you have the same dilemma?

But its not a brain surgery. Its a training cycle,if it doesnt work,i can just quit and do something else. Its really not a good comparison,tho i get ur point.

You have accurately identified the analogy.

If you got my point, the comparison was exactly what I needed it to be :slight_smile:

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I understand where you’re coming from. Its fun to experiment and try stuff out. Experience is the best teacher and you understand stuff better after you “feel” it.

But things are “proven” now, because they were experimented with in the past.

People with lots of long term experience programming and training lots of athletes are the ones who say lots of same thing, heavy and often leads to stagnation pretty quickly. The experiment and research guys are the ones who tried it, then recommended something different.

This article talks about results from using different rep/intensity ranges.

The draw back of the heavy stuff is neural fatigue. Just like Max talks about with the Bulgarian style dudes doing anything they can to not have to lift so heavy.

That said, at some point you just gotta do too much to understand how much is too much. Maybe it works for a while. Like you said, if it doesn’t, you can just stop and try something else.

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As far as I can tell, you make a lot of posts inviting people to question your ideas, and spend the entire time arguing your point instead of paying attention to what’s been said. You also seem to think a lot of things don’t ‘work’ at 18, which is funny, because you’re in the only phase of life where almost anything you do will yield results.

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Then why doesnt everything yield results for me. I like discussing,and i like for people to prove it to me if theyre against an idea. I wont just accept something just because some older guy said so. You may think im just a stubborn kid,but accepting shit without understanding it judt because the one who said it is older is stupid.

It might be, but BOY did it get me big and strong.

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I think you got me convinced here.

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You’re making a conscious choice not to listen, not to watch the videos or read the articles posted, and not to hear criticism, so you not understanding what people are explaining to you is a result of the ‘stubborn kid’ mentality, and not because the information you’re getting is indecipherable. If that’s you in your profile picture, then something yielded results because the vast majority of teens have worse physiques than you do.

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Check out Vince’s log. He trains with big lifts, big weights and high frequency. You can see how he makes subtle changes to keep things going forward.

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I watch and listen to all of them. In fact i just agreed to one of the guys here and quit my case because he gave good arguments. I only dont watch them if im at work or sth

Yeah,stopping listening to guys who were simply more jacked or older than me and actually researching yielded me those results.

Ill look into it,thanks.

And yet here you are, complaining that nothings working, and despite all the research being thrown at you, you want to go out and try something completely unproven. Sounds like the opposite of research to me.

Unless you want to just try it out, make a log, and prove us all wrong, in which case, go for it.

You write like you havent read anything written on this post after the first 2 replies. If you want to just hate go ahead.

Just reread up to post 28 and see you still acting stubborn. You really don’t make a lot of sense, to be honest. But I’ll be out. Just seeing lots of your posts and this isn’t an isolated occurrence, it’s an established pattern.

Thanks mr.Freud