Proanorexia Site

I found this proanorexia site on another thread so I thought I’d start a thread about it. I guess I’m probably a monster, but I think it’s pretty funny in a morbid kind of way. Here’s a good quote:

oh my god, the weather is so nice here today.

I feel so cheated when I have to work on a nice day. all I want to do is go for a really long walk, and I can’t, I have to be inside and fold clothing and pretend to care about how jeans look on some 30 year old mom. it puts me in such a bad mood too, becuase I’m just around sizes and thin girls all day and I always feel fat.

I want my chest bones back and my super thin thighs back too.
I’m so desperate to be where I was.

Chest bones, LOL. Yeah, that’s hot.

Here’s the link:

I’m also shocked by how many posts there are. Is this shit really that popular?

Reminds me of some posters at this website.

“Do you guys work out when you’ve had less than 400 calories a day? I want to but I’ve been eating about 300 a day for 4 or 5 days and I’m so dizzy.
Also, anyone want to do a water fast for the next 3 days?”

ROFL.

Sorry. I shouldn’t laugh.

I think it takes me 300 calories just so I can take a shit.

[quote]Do you guys work out when you’ve had less than 400 calories a day? I want to but I’ve been eating about 300 a day for 4 or 5 days and I’m so dizzy.
Also, anyone want to do a water fast for the next 3 days?
[/quote]

Pathetic.

I wonder what would happen if I put a really nice site together advocating anorexia as a moral obligation of those in the developed world in order to bring down food prices for those elsewhere? This could be huge! (pun intended) Hmmm …

This is ridiculous. I’m half sorry for them, half disgusted. There’s nothing we can do either, because they won’t listen (they obviously haven’t already), but hopefully they’ll realize the error in their ways before it’s too late.

I’ve known actual anorexics before. They didn’t talk about it on livejournal communities, thats for damn sure.

I vote we send X and Tiri over there to set them straight.

If it was in France, they’d immediately shut it down.

[quote]lixy wrote:
If it was in France, they’d immediately shut it down.[/quote]

As much as I’m annoyed by it, I’d rather not let “them” decide what to shut down and what to allow.

Sadly, it is that popular. No one listens to guys anymore. It’s not like we push for exposed ribcages and no tits.

There was a magazine in Australia that did a survey among men (online) to find out the ideal size. They chose between 8, 12 & 14. Of course they picked 12.

“so today i hung out with my best friend… and we went out to lunch and had the best time… and it just made me realize how much i miss being able to go have a nice time… because even though i acted happy i really wasn’t because i am so fat… and all this week i have tried… i have tried to eat healthy meals at least 3 times a day… and i have tried to only allow myself to exercise for an hour a day… but i honestly couldn’t do it… i want to recover so much… but tomorrow i am fasting to make up for today… WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?? and i know that this summer is going to be miserable if i don’t… ok i am SICK OF THIS LIFE”

It’s this kind of shit that freaks me out. She knows she is doing something wrong, but can’t stop it?

[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
“so today i hung out with my best friend… and we went out to lunch and had the best time… and it just made me realize how much i miss being able to go have a nice time… because even though i acted happy i really wasn’t because i am so fat… and all this week i have tried… i have tried to eat healthy meals at least 3 times a day… and i have tried to only allow myself to exercise for an hour a day… but i honestly couldn’t do it… i want to recover so much… but tomorrow i am fasting to make up for today… WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?? and i know that this summer is going to be miserable if i don’t… ok i am SICK OF THIS LIFE”

It’s this kind of shit that freaks me out. She knows she is doing something wrong, but can’t stop it?[/quote]

There is no help other than psychological. They won’t listen to ANYONE who tells them they are skinny because they truly see a fat person in the mirror.

When I worked as a personal trainer, there used to be this woman who would come in every morning and jump on the stair stepper and treadmill for almost two hours every single day. She was literally bones and some visible muscle tissue. She would crank these machines up to the highest level and act like wild wolves were chasing her. It was almost grotesque to watch because she was eating herself alive.

These girls are the same way. Nothing can stop that aside from their family’s being aware and getting them counseling.

I really don’t see how they are able to hide this from their parents.

This is why I also take offense to people relating bodybuilding to this insanity.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I really don’t see how they are able to hide this from their parents.

This is why I also take offense to people relating bodybuilding to this insanity.[/quote]

Hyper-awareness of diet,
Frequent, intense exercise,
Hiding the habit from close friends (okay, this one’s a bit of a stretch, but a common reason for these forums is that regular people don’t ‘get it’, why we lift)

I was reading the ‘Diary of a Juicer’ article series, in a number of articles the writer draws connection between anorexics and bodybuilders. ‘Body Dismorphia’, I believe it’s called, where you’re never ___ enough.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459317

I think there is an uncomfortable degree of fair comparison.

[quote]Otep wrote:

I think there is an uncomfortable degree of fair comparison.[/quote]

You’re missing the point. Bodybuilding doesn’t necessarily lead to death if not treated.

[quote]Otep wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I really don’t see how they are able to hide this from their parents.

This is why I also take offense to people relating bodybuilding to this insanity.

Hyper-awareness of diet,
Frequent, intense exercise,
Hiding the habit from close friends (okay, this one’s a bit of a stretch, but a common reason for these forums is that regular people don’t ‘get it’, why we lift)

I was reading the ‘Diary of a Juicer’ article series, in a number of articles the writer draws connection between anorexics and bodybuilders. ‘Body Dismorphia’, I believe it’s called, where you’re never ___ enough.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459317

I think there is an uncomfortable degree of fair comparison.[/quote]

Anyone successful at bodybuilding probably shows some degree of obsessive compulsive traits, however, comparing this to a physically destructive activity with no upside that leads to death would be a mistake. Mind you, most elite activities (like the extremes in any sport from football to baseball to hockey) involve a level of self destruction over time even if most won’t admit it. That is why comparing anorexia to it doesn’t make much sense unless someone is truly getting nothing positive in return for the sacrifice.

There is no positive upside to acting like these girls because they will still see themselves as fat.

Most large bodybuilder KNOW they aren’t tiny even if they claim to want even more size or state that it isn’t enough.

The only direct connection would be if someone were gigantic and ripped yet saw someone small and obese staring back at them in the mirror.

Lumping us all in that boat would be the same as degrading anyone who strives to be the top at whatever they do…including doctors and scientists who sacrifice personal lives for their career. Yet we never hear that connection, do we?

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Sadly, it is that popular. No one listens to guys anymore. It’s not like we push for exposed ribcages and no tits.

There was a magazine in Australia that did a survey among men (online) to find out the ideal size. They chose between 8, 12 & 14. Of course they picked 12.

[/quote]

Well, assuming the woman has good proportions. Most “Rubenesque” women are just plain fat.

…Although I probably shouldn’t be bringing up this counterpoint on a thread about anorexia. Haha.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Sadly, it is that popular. No one listens to guys anymore. It’s not like we push for exposed ribcages and no tits.

There was a magazine in Australia that did a survey among men (online) to find out the ideal size. They chose between 8, 12 & 14. Of course they picked 12.

[/quote]

Dude, I would totally wreck that 14.

[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Sadly, it is that popular. No one listens to guys anymore. It’s not like we push for exposed ribcages and no tits.

There was a magazine in Australia that did a survey among men (online) to find out the ideal size. They chose between 8, 12 & 14. Of course they picked 12.

Dude, I would totally wreck that 14.[/quote]

Ding, ding, ding! I’d knock the bottom out of 'er for sure, not that the other gals weren’t shiny too. The link didn’t work for me, so here’s another one:

[quote]beebuddy wrote:
Otep wrote:

I think there is an uncomfortable degree of fair comparison.

You’re missing the point. Bodybuilding doesn’t necessarily lead to death if not treated. [/quote]

On an amateur level, I agree with you. On a professional level, there’s a much higher level of risk. Here’s a link to an article called “The Dead Pool '99”. It’s about how close some professional bodybuilders are to dying from steroid abuse.

http://www.T-Nation.com/article/features/the_dead_pool_99

I’m not saying the two are identical. I agree that bodybuilding is much healthier a past time than anorexia. But the more fanatically an individual persues these goals, the farther the limit of ‘healthy’ activity gets stretched.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Anyone successful at bodybuilding probably shows some degree of obsessive compulsive traits…[/quote]

Yeah, and the difference with bodybuilders is that the obsessive compulsiveness is positive and healthy, rather than negative and destructive. Being obsessed with working out and dieting and etc is a far cry from eating 300 calories a day because someone thinks they’re too fat.

And you’re right, it’s a psychological problem that needs to be treated, in both regards (anorexia and super-compulsive bodybuilding). The way I see it, the best way to go about things is like this: you are what you are, so find ways to get better. If a bodybuilder is jacked and doesn’t think so, that doesn’t mean he’s not, it just means he doesn’t see it. If an anorexic is skinny but thinks she’s fat, then it’s her perception. Perception =/= truth.