Prime Time: Barrmadillo

marcus, I’m not aware of any studies supporting this. In fact, I prefer to stick with a program for 5 weeks. It’s a personal thing, but I feel like I’m just getting started by week 3, and it helps to track changes/adaptation by sticking wiht the program longer.

Some people need more frequent change though, which is where the shorter time frame comes in.

[quote]marcus_aurelius wrote:
Dave

Not sure if you can answer this question or not.

Is there any physiological basis for changing a program after 3 weeks (being it CNS, hypertrophy or whatever). I mean, are there any actual studies to support this or is this just dogma as some people think ? ( I’m thinking Russian studies, etc ?)

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[quote]David Barr wrote:
Here’s a great question from another thread:

A while ago I asked you about calorie intake while on an SD cycle and you said that for a 3000 cal maintenance diet you would suggest a 6000 cal intake during cycle diet.

At any rate, what would you suggest for a diet during PCT? I think I should drop my calories somewhat, to avoid too much fat gain, but if I drop cals too quickly I might loose some of my gains right? What might you suggest?

fedyakin, dropping Calories too low post cycle is one of the main reasons why people lose so much when coming off. I’ve seen this time and again -once to the point where a guy started up cardio to “lose fat” post cycle. I’m sure you can tell what he lost (HINT; It wasn’t fat).

I think that our thinking needs to be adjusted a little in terms of our expectations when coming off. I mean, sure, we don’t want to turn into fat bastards when we’re done, but a little fat gain post bulking cycle isn’t a bad thing.

Besides, if one is using juice anyway, then they should have no problems to use it again to cut up.

I’d keep the Calories relatively high, while using a thermogenic like HOT-ROX or an anabolic like Carbolin 19.

4000-4500/day is good to start (remember your “maintenance” level should be much higher because of the new muscle). You can work down as time goes on IF necessary, but the higher the better to start.

Cheers[/quote]

thank you very much for your reply. One more quick question if you can handle it:

Should I keep my protein intake really high like you suggested during cycle(2-3 g per lb) or should that drop proportionately with the rest of my cals? I’m gunna have to find a way to buy Turkey Jerky in bulk…

I was actually wondering about this myself on my 30 hour drive up to Mass. In fact, I got so lonely that we made a game of coming up with new names.

I figure once 52 weeks roll by, I’m allowed to start reusing names. Fair?

[quote]samsmarts wrote:
I wonder how long before you run out of catchy names(that ryhme with Barr) for your prime time threads?[/quote]

Turkey jerky? Really?

Protein can most often come down in proportion with the Calories (well stated). BUT if you find that your fat accumulation is unacceptable (be realistic) during PCT, and increase in protein at the expense of other Calories may help.

If you’re okay with eating that high “on cycle” level of protein normally, you can just leave it at that high level as you begin PCT. For most people, however, this is not a realistic option.

Maybe it’s because they don’t have Turkey jerky…

[quote]fedaykin wrote:
thank you very much for your reply. One more quick question if you can handle it:

Should I keep my protein intake really high like you suggested during cycle(2-3 g per lb) or should that drop proportionately with the rest of my cals? I’m gunna have to find a way to buy Turkey Jerky in bulk…[/quote]

Hey BARRtender
BARRtholin’s Gland
BARRoom Brawl
BARRancle
BARR mitzvah
BARRium enema
BARRleycorn
BARRnstorm
BARR body

Whew I’m tired, and I haven’t even finished (BARRely started actually) going through the bar- section of the dictionary.

Ryan

[quote]David Barr wrote:
I was actually wondering about this myself on my 30 hour drive up to Mass. In fact, I got so lonely that we made a game of coming up with new names.

I figure once 52 weeks roll by, I’m allowed to start reusing names. Fair?

samsmarts wrote:
I wonder how long before you run out of catchy names(that ryhme with Barr) for your prime time threads?[/quote]

[quote]David Barr wrote:
MR, the new place is great! I have a super hot chick now living with me, who also LOVES to cook (and does so VERY well)!

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Nice! No more 1500 calorie days, buddy. Enjoy it while you can. My girfriend and I had our own places back at school, but we essentially lived together. Now we’re both with our families, and she’s working a shitload too. I can tell ya, I miss the cooking. Oh, yeah-and her.

[quote]David Barr wrote:
GL part II, I’d also get more fat, but if you’re pressed for time between practice and meals, it’s best to save your fat until after the last practice.

To directly answer your question, stick with the solid meals, it looks good.

Have you been monitoring your weight? Do so several times throughout the day if you can, as this will be a good indicator of hydration status (thirst is not).

From what I’ve read, the lymphatic system seems to absorb damaged cellular remnants (ie molecules), and this absorption/movement is stimulated by physical movement. BOTTOM LINE: Move arouond while in the pool. Nothing strenuous though.

What do you want stretches for? Recovery? Warmup? I’ll see if I can dig some pictures up…

Get Lifted wrote:
The turkey is highly processed, the potatoes are covered in gravy and the beef is 30% fat so I am wondering if what I ate was alright? I didn’t eat any bread because I wanted to get as much simple sugary stuff as possible.(veggies too) Would it be better to just take the Surge and skip the dinner and make something quick that fits better afterwards?

Also, would it be better to have movement in the whirl pool or just sit there?

Any stretches for the the lower body would be great if you got any as well. Or you can refer me to an article.
-Get Lifted[/quote]

The first day went well… I feel stronger,faster, quicker, more power filled. However, the conditioning is killing me. Today’s first practice we already had one guy who had a partial heat stroke or mini. They had to get his heart rate down and he looked “out of it.”

The first day is not what I’m worrying about per se… It’s the week from now. I’m trying to minimize this. Or destroy it instead of my muscle gains. Nope, I’ll just will it to not go.

Shoot… I’d like stretches for D.) All the above. I’m incorporating some of the S2B dynamic stretches before warmup session. Our stretching is abysmal after wards though. Anything you have handy will be helpful.

I had some Grow! after I had the carbs for dinner. 40grams.

I’m going to eat another peanut butter fudge bar from Jbs gourmet nutrition book and some more fish oil caps. I’m only going to get 5 meals in today. Tomorrow, I’ll be needing six.

I’m going to get cryocups for meetings since I’m sitting there anyway.

Interesting that we decide to sit for hours after practice when movements helps get rid of the soreness. BUT then we would have trouble with our plays.

Thanks Barracuda for the response.

I’ll weigh myself before and after practices.

-Get Lifted

[quote]David Barr wrote:
Turkey jerky? Really?

Protein can most often come down in proportion with the Calories (well stated). BUT if you find that your fat accumulation is unacceptable (be realistic) during PCT, and increase in protein at the expense of other Calories may help.

If you’re okay with eating that high “on cycle” level of protein normally, you can just leave it at that high level as you begin PCT. For most people, however, this is not a realistic option.

Maybe it’s because they don’t have Turkey jerky…

fedaykin wrote:
thank you very much for your reply. One more quick question if you can handle it:

Should I keep my protein intake really high like you suggested during cycle(2-3 g per lb) or should that drop proportionately with the rest of my cals? I’m gunna have to find a way to buy Turkey Jerky in bulk…[/quote]

yeah, terky jerky. Although I may go with some beef jerky because i’m looking for some extra cals…

Anyways thank you very much for your responses. It has been a huge help.