President's Speech to School Kids

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Great attitude you got.

I happen to think it’s a GREAT speech, one that could resonate for a while, assuming he can deliver it properly.

quoted the wrong part “I agree, not bad at all. It’s a nice speech (I could nit-pick a few things, but I won’t). The problem is that it was published after the fact. Too little too late, perhaps scrubbed, perhaps not.”[/quote]

LOL-- I’m sorry, I’m not sure what you’re looking for? I said it was a nice speech (as written), but I’m not going to masturbate over it.

Let me ask you something: What do you think 8 year old 3rd graders are going take home from that speech?

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Let me ask you something: What do you think 8 year old 3rd graders are going take home from that speech?[/quote]

this obviously - YouTube lolz

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Judge for yourself

http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/

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Good speech. Amazing what a little transparency can do.

mike

[quote]MikeyKBiatch wrote:

Let me ask you something: What do you think 8 year old 3rd graders are going take home from that speech?

this obviously - YouTube lolz[/quote]

Wtf is that?

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

The problem is that it was published after the fact. Too little too late, perhaps scrubbed, perhaps not. [/quote]

After what fact? He’s going to give the speech tomorrow.

OMG!!! I just looked it up; it seems he’s teamed up with Nazi NASCAR drivers. I just don’t trust those damn NASCAR guys, they’re like Obama’s gestapo!

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
SteelyD wrote:

The problem is that it was published after the fact. Too little too late, perhaps scrubbed, perhaps not.

After what fact? He’s going to give the speech tomorrow.

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After the “controversy”. Had the administration sent the speech out to the government schools for them to send home ahead of time, this whole thing would have been a non-issue (or less of one). Again, they should have expected something like this, ESPECIALLY an administration with a President with young kids.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
SteelyD wrote:

The problem is that it was published after the fact. Too little too late, perhaps scrubbed, perhaps not.

After what fact? He’s going to give the speech tomorrow.

After the “controversy”. Had the administration sent the speech out to the government schools for them to send home ahead of time, this whole thing would have been a non-issue (or less of one). [/quote]

I really doubt it. While I admit the extent of the “controversy” is somewhat surprising, I think everyone fully expects crazies from either fringe to attack the president whatever he does.

What exactly are you trying to say here? I must be mis-interpenetrating, it seems the exact opposite of common sense.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

Again, they should have expected something like this, ESPECIALLY an administration with a President with young kids.

What exactly are you trying to say here? I must be mis-interpenetrating, it seems the exact opposite of common sense. [/quote]

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Let me ask you this: Do you think that whoever made this thing a ‘go’ anticipated that there would be some eyebrows raised?

Eyebrows raised for a “be cool stay in school” speech? I’m sure they thought crazies would cry havoc, not sure the administration thought it would catch on so much.

Now will you answer my question? I honestly have no clue what you were trying to say, it came across quite absurd.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Eyebrows raised for a “be cool stay in school” speech? I’m sure they thought crazies would cry havoc, not sure the administration thought it would catch on so much.

Now will you answer my question? I honestly have no clue what you were trying to say, it came across quite absurd. [/quote]

I’m not sure why ‘absurd’… buuut…

Knowing the Prez anticipated backlash, and given all the rhetoric about ‘transparency’, why didn’t they just release the speech with the announcement for the schools to send to parents for review.

The proper M.O. would have been:

Prez: “Parents, I’m going to speak directly to your kids, here is what I’m going to say.”
Parents: “Oh, OK, thanks” (or, “OK, my kid will be absent that day”)

No, what it was was:

Prez: “Parents, I am going to speak directly to your kids.”
Parents: “What are you going to say?”
Prez: “QUESTION ME??!!!? You’re CRAZY!!”

“Common sense” from a parent of young kids to parents of other young kids would be to make your intentions known up front-- always, no matter how ‘harmless’.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

Knowing the Prez anticipated backlash, and given all the rhetoric about ‘transparency’, why didn’t they just release the speech with the announcement for the schools to send to parents for review.

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So the raving and howling had time to rise in volume, before muting it with one easy move. Basically, make us (those who oppose him and his policies) look like paranoid fools. Which he did.

I don’t get it, after he dropped the activities why are we still talking about this.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
SteelyD wrote:

The problem is that it was published after the fact. Too little too late, perhaps scrubbed, perhaps not.

After what fact? He’s going to give the speech tomorrow.

After the “controversy”. Had the administration sent the speech out to the government schools for them to send home ahead of time, this whole thing would have been a non-issue (or less of one). Again, they should have expected something like this, ESPECIALLY an administration with a President with young kids.[/quote]

or maybe people shouldn’t have overreacted in the first place

[quote]John S. wrote:
I don’t get it, after he dropped the activities why are we still talking about this.[/quote]

because people don’t like to admit when they’re wrong

[quote]Sloth wrote:
SteelyD wrote:

Knowing the Prez anticipated backlash, and given all the rhetoric about ‘transparency’, why didn’t they just release the speech with the announcement for the schools to send to parents for review.

So the raving and howling had time to rise in volume, before muting it with one easy move. Basically, make us (those who oppose him and his policies) look like paranoid fools. Which he did.[/quote]

He didn’t “make” you all do anything.

[quote]John S. wrote:
I don’t get it, after he dropped the activities why are we still talking about this.[/quote]

What activities do you think he “dropped”?

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

“Common sense” from a parent of young kids to parents of other young kids would be to make your intentions known up front-- always, no matter how ‘harmless’. [/quote]

I’m fairly certain he did make his intentions known. Some paranoid crazies, however, assumed something nefarious.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Sloth wrote:
SteelyD wrote:

Knowing the Prez anticipated backlash, and given all the rhetoric about ‘transparency’, why didn’t they just release the speech with the announcement for the schools to send to parents for review.

So the raving and howling had time to rise in volume, before muting it with one easy move. Basically, make us (those who oppose him and his policies) look like paranoid fools. Which he did.

He didn’t “make” you all do anything. [/quote]

I’m surprised. I figured you’d agree that he made the opposition look like fools. But, perhaps, you’d word it as “made yourselves look like fools.” Either way, is fine for me. Though, being a politician with “good game,” I suspect he was counting on it.

My motivation in pointing out how foolish those on the right (the ones who made noise over this) ended up looking, is the hope that we’ll stay focused in on a mounting debt, opposing a public option, jobless recovery, getting out of Afghanistan (yep, different foriegn policy stance), etc.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Sloth wrote:
SteelyD wrote:

Knowing the Prez anticipated backlash, and given all the rhetoric about ‘transparency’, why didn’t they just release the speech with the announcement for the schools to send to parents for review.

So the raving and howling had time to rise in volume, before muting it with one easy move. Basically, make us (those who oppose him and his policies) look like paranoid fools. Which he did.

He didn’t “make” you all do anything.

I’m surprised. I figured you’d agree that he made the opposition look like fools. But, perhaps, you’d word it as “made yourselves look like fools.” Either way, is fine for me. Though, being a politician with “good game,” I suspect he was counting on it.[/quote]

Yep.[quote]

My motivation in pointing out how foolish those on the right (the ones who made noise over this) ended up looking, is the hope that we’ll stay focused in on a mounting debt, opposing a public option, jobless recovery, getting out of Afghanistan (yep, different foriegn policy stance), etc.[/quote]

I share your hope. I’d love to have a real debate over real issues.