I see, and very well explained.
Thank you
If by differently you mean no longer being a ban on Muslims… then yes.
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Nah, this isn’t it at all. I was wrong. Plain and simple. I’m as surprised as many others.
If you want to talk tax policy I’ll chime in (you know I can’t abstain from a good tax policy discussion!).
As far as the election is concerned, Trump won fair and square. Now I will wait and see what type of President he really is when he assumes power in January.
I’ll say the same thing I said when Obama won his first term. I hope Trump is the greatest President since Abraham Lincoln.
I’d rather eat slice after slice of humble pie than Trump fail as POTUS.
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I mean… I’m not a fan of the amount of power POTUS has at this point to the degree I’m very unlikely to be happy with whomever sits in the office. It’s the nature of my personality and bias.
There isn’t a person on earth who actually wants that job, whom I’d not instantly assume is going to suck at that job. That is 100% on me.
All that said, I’m not a fan of his, and if he can do as well as my highest hopes I’ll be content in the end. But I don’t trust him.
I’m not going to deny #1 is good. I don’t care about #2 in any way, shape or form, and I’m not a closed boarder type (although I’m not an open boarder libertariain/an-cap either.)
The two good things about Trump:
- his SCOTUS pick is likely to be worlds better than Bam or Clinton’s would have been
- He literally pissed in the regressive left’s morning coffee for like 4 years and beat them at their own game. For the last week alone I’ll always be thankful. The true colors are coming out, and if the Dems give the party to the likes of Sanders and Liz Warren, lmao, they are fucked.
Everything else, in my opinion isn’t looking to good. I’m really not a fan of his Bannon pick in at all the slightest. Even though he could have picked Michael Jordan and been called a racist, Bannon? That’s some piss pour judgement. Bannon may be smart, but image matters, and if you want to lead, you can’t push too many buttons. That pick is pushing too many buttons, and Bannon walks too fine a line, IMO, for todays identity politic climate. You won the battle, let Bannon go back to Brietbart.
Rudy as SOS? just ugh…
Christie? Not a fan of that fuckign authoritarian douche.
But again. I’m very much more a libertarian than anything, so I didn’t expect him to pick people I liked. Therefore I’m not disappointed, but I would like him to do well in order to smash the left in the face. So far thought, can’t say it’s looking all that good with those three on board.
Good. I’ll get working on it now then…
As for the election. I was wrong too. And now that the joy of watching the regressive left meld down and double down on why they lost, the depression of Cheeto in office is setting in.
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This is what I have been saying repeatedly and what really irritated certain other posters. I knew that if he ran and won he would have had at least some help from the right (and that he would want to get reelected). Now if any of the naysayers think for an instant that Jeff Sessions, Steve Bannon, Reince Priebus and Mike Pence are going to allow Donald Trump to pick anyone but a conservative to the high court they are smoking something that they shouldn’t be.
I can understand people’s hesitation to vote for Trump for many reasons. But if they ever wanted to see a high court that is conservative Trump was the only person to vote for.
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USMC,
For the second time you should start posting again. I know I’m not your favorite person not just because I won the bet but for many other reasons. But, it’s time for both of us to hit the reset button and bury the hatchet. Politically we have far more in common than not.
Consider this an olive branch.
ZEB
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I appreciate it, Zeb. Obviously, things were said that should not have been said on my end and for that I do apologize.
The past is the past. I’m happy to move on.
-Chris
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Now you’re talking, welcome back my friend.
ZEB
Edit: And it just occurred to be that I should be apologizing to you as well. This was a two way street of shit talking that never should have occurred. But, if you look back on it this all began over the Trump candidacy. That really brought out the worst in both of us.
Let’s move forward.
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Beans:
I asked this once before and no one seemed to have a good answer.
Their “war” against horsehshit and corruption seems heavily weighted toward the U.S. and our institutions.
Granted…I could be wrong about this (which is why I ask).
Do our institutions possess the most corruption?
Are we the true (and only) enemy of freedom and democracy in the World?
What is their (WikiLeaks) ultimate “goal”?
Why are we still talking about the EC?? Popular vote takes away the voices of the smaller states. Look at it this way…It is 50 individual elections, not a national election per se and Trump won 30 of the 50 states I believe. We are not a pure democracy and that is EXACTLY what the popular vote is… Rule by mob is not what were about folks.
Example A.
Two lions and a lamb vote on what’s for dinner. The lions vote for the lamb. End of discussion and the lamb has no say… This is the popular vote.
Is the EC perfect? No, but it’s the best we have.
Nah, whole shit load of countries are much worse than us. We’re just the biggest bully on the block and really, really fucking self righteous…
They want to hold us to a higher standard because we do hold the literal world order in our hands, so we SHOULD be held to a higher standard.
It’s sort of like the left making fun of social conservatives that get caught cheating on their wives… I mean, dudes, you can’t preach family values and pork Sally and Tommy Hooker. Or the leftist that calls everyone racist, but treats Blacks like helpless children that need a scrawny hipster to tell them what their best interests are.
I can accept that, Beans.
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Oh yes, the tensions sure have calmed:
Also, with Bolton in the mix things are definitely going to get interesting in the Middle East:
Especially since the current favorite for the position of Secretary of State has, and I kid you not, “business ties to the enemies of America”
He was reportedly paid to advocate on behalf of an Iranian dissident group while it was listed by the state department as a foreign terrorist organisation and worked for a law firm whose clients included Saddam Hussein, terrorist Abu Nidal and an oil company controlled by the then Venezuelan president, Hugo Chávez
They very fact Putin and Assad have spoken openly about cooperating with the US since the Trump presidency is a good sign. I’m not saying it’s resolved by any means.
Compare this to the potential US-Russia conflict that would have occurred under Hillary over enforcing a no fly zone.
Kim-Jong Un and the Iranian Guardians of the Revolution have also spoken positively about the Trump presidency, with the latter issuing a statement that they “welcome Trump’s presidency as he will obviously usher a new period of US decline”. Your point?
Also on the well wishers list are a bunch of creepy European rightwingers and neonazis and “Trump of the East”, Philippine president Duterte who occasionally claims to speak directly to God.
Do you think they may have ulterior motives?
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What matters to me is Russia’s interest in normalizing relations over Syria with America first and foremost. That affects America’s homeland. Think how much better the US will be in fighting ISIS as a result.
This argument of rotten people supporting makes him rotten by association is bunk and I’ll illustrate with an example:
The Nazis were the first to associate smoking with lung cancer, does that make it questionable to support anti-Tobacco campaigns because this practice began with the Nazis?
It’s simply a massive (yet quasi sophisticated) fallacy, ultimately no different than calling everyone a racist, just more high brow.
He doesn’t even have a record to pick apart yet, I’m just hoping once he does we can move on to substantive putdowns rather than “but da badz peoplez like himz”.
You have no idea what’s going on in Syria, do you? Russia is not bombing ISIS. Otherwise you wouldn’t be repeating verbatim Trump’s statements.
Just to be clear - Obama’s policy on Syria was meek and ineffectual, but this takes it to whole new level.
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Have you made up your mind of exactly what the US should do in Syria? If so please share.
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