Pre-Contest Cycle

Will be transitioning into my first pre-contest cycle in a few weeks, have done a bit of reading, probably not as much as I need to, but here’s what I’ve come up with thus far.

((At the moment im running 600TestE, 400NPP))

W1-8 Test E 750mg/w
W1-8 Tren A 20mg/ED subq (140mg/w) (This will be my first run at tren, and I just want to experiment a bit, doing only 20mg per day based on some reading done of BBB’s experiences)
W1-8 NPP 400 (I know, 2 19-nor’s) reason im keeping this in here is because im coming off of my offseason dose and want to keep total MG’s even or higher)

TOTAL: 1290mg total/w

W9-16 Test E 250mg/w
W9-16 Primo 500mg/w
W9-16 Masteron 400mg/w
W9-16 Var (not for sure on this, i just happen to have a lot lying around)

TOTAL: 1150 w/o var, probably use var or another oral to bring up the total to 1300ish/w

W15-16 Halo ?? Maybe? Not sure on dosage yet, will likely be conservative with it tho.

Ancillaries + taper PCT are all in order.

Oh yeah my stats:

At this point, 19 weeks out.
5’11, 252 lbs, 12-13%Bf, dreamy green eyes.

Let me know if there are any obvious issues or better recommendations. Cheers!, Also the reason i’m using Test E as opposed to prop, is because I can’t get human grade prop.

use halo the last 3 weeks, 20-30mg ED

don’t drop your test dose, pin it EOD

save tren for last 8 weeks, 75mg EOD

adex .5mg EOD (ED last week) or letro 1.25mg EOD (ED last week)

get dyazide also

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

get dyazide also[/quote]

yikes, isn’t that stuff really nasty?

no

WW … I assume you are suggesting the DY for possible BP issues?

Any other reason to suggest it other than that? I don’t have any experience with it and have read very little about it.

JJ … I am am going to echo everything WW said. Its exactly what I would do as well. He gave you good advice.

I have only used halo pre w/o and I love it for the aggression. I have had friends use it pre contest tho and once your bf is low it has a suprising result on how full you look. and only 20-30mg a day for 3 weeks isn’t awful.

I am not big on orals but when I have used var … I like it @ 100mg a day.

Great cycle tho … should be a fun ride. Would be great if you kept a log and tracked your prgress JJ.

BOL 2 u

GG

halo is some pricy shit… does halo pull water into the muscles?

where you from Big?

$1 per 15mg tab is what I have paid in the past. So 30mg per day for 3 weeks = 21 days and 2 per day = $42 … not bad in my book. =)

pull water in to the muscle? no.

Increases hematocrit, hemoglobin and red cell mass.

GG

Thanks for the advice guys. I was originally planning on running my Test at a consistent dose the whole way through as you recommended, but was reading about swapping test out for Primo (either partially or even completely) near to contest time, resulting in supposedly a much harder look probably due to reduced aromatization. Should I just knock the primo out completely then?

@Mr Walkway, you recommending the Dyazide for pre-contest? Better than lasix? I havent done much reading on diuretics, and since its only my first show i wasn’t planning on using any except maybe some coffee n vodka.

@GG, I’m already keeping a log on an alternate site, but Ill throw up some 16 weeks out → contest pics for sure. Thanks for the input

@ty, Canada

I’ll grab some halo too! which for me is 70$ for 50 x 10mg tabs.

I think dyazide is better than Lasix yes, way safer and it won’t flatten you out

well you didn’t answer my question Walkway but I can acertain now from yours and JJs answer that you use the dyazide to drop h2o. I have only ever used lasix for this purpose so I had no idea why you suggested that.

Good talk … lol

GG

[quote]BigJJ88 wrote:
I’ll grab some halo too! which for me is 70$ for 50 x 10mg tabs. [/quote]

thats more normal from what ive seen…

[quote]GreenGoblin wrote:
well you didn’t answer my question Walkway but I can acertain now from yours and JJs answer that you use the dyazide to drop h2o. I have only ever used lasix for this purpose so I had no idea why you suggested that.

Good talk … lol

GG[/quote]

thought I would kill 2 birds with one stone (:

[quote]GreenGoblin wrote:
well you didn’t answer my question Walkway but I can acertain now from yours and JJs answer that you use the dyazide to drop h2o. I have only ever used lasix for this purpose so I had no idea why you suggested that.

Good talk … lol

GG[/quote]

Lasix is rough. I will never use it again if I don’t have to. It flattened me out bad for my first show. Realistically the only lasix I would use would be intravenous as its easier to control the amounts. Pill form is just to unwieldy and can cause you to flatten out like Walkway said.

[quote]GreenGoblin wrote:
well you didn’t answer my question Walkway but I can acertain now from yours and JJs answer that you use the dyazide to drop h2o. I have only ever used lasix for this purpose so I had no idea why you suggested that.

Good talk … lol

GG[/quote]

It’s a common water pill. Works quickly and is easy on the body. Don’t take it close to bedtime or you will be up every two hours emptying your bladder. It should lower bp within several days.

Also if you begin on full strength rather than breaking it in half, watch getting up quickly as you will feel lightheaded and dizzy. Your first day or two I wouldn’t count on doing full workouts. Build up to it within about two-four days.

You will lose a lot of water but keep hydrating. I don’t think it goes well with creatine because they counteract. But I’m not an expert, I just play one on TV.

Why not prop weeks 9-16?

[quote]PulsedEE wrote:
Why not prop weeks 9-16?[/quote]

it wouldn’t make any difference

JJ you are a beast dude. Have a log by chance? Would love to follow it.

19 weeks out for 11-12% bodyfat?

this should be a very graceful prep…

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
19 weeks out for 11-12% bodyfat?

this should be a very graceful prep…[/quote]

Yes I concur.