hi, I am Italian and I don’t speak English, I wanted your advice:
cycle pre contest 1-8
test prop 100mg eod 1-8
masteron 100mg eod 1-8
Winny 50 mg ed 5-8
Accutane 10mg ed( it’s top for oil skin for me)
Aromasin 12,5 eod( to be adjusted with blood tests)
Clen ( 2 week on e off) 20-40-60-80-80-100-100-100-100-80-80-60-40-20( for me it’s OK)
T3 (2week on e off) 12.5/25/25/37.5/37.5/50/50/50/50/50/37.5/25/25/12.5
Hcg 3-8 2x250 ui
Pct
Clomid 50/50/50/25/12.5
Nolva 40/40/20/20/10
Aromasin. 12,5 eod and decrease( for 3 week) it’s so good for IGF-1, SHBG, for no lose muscle
I use t3 or clen… 2 week clen, then 2 week t3
1)There isn’t shotdown of thryroid
2)I don’t take fat, for little suppression because i use steroid and i use clen
3) pct start with thryod livels normal because i start with 1-2 t3, 3-4 clen,5-6 t3, 7-8 clen
Or i take for 6 week t3 no stop …25mcg increase week then week and slowly decrease:
1 week 25
2. 50
3. 50
4. 50
5. 37.5
6. 25
Yes there is… but whatever, you’ll be giving you’re body some time to recover when you go off, but continual 2 wk on 2 wk off cycles will eventually shut down thyroid production.
Sure, you could also just diet down and use such harsh compounds right before the show to avoid extreme cardiac strain. @singhbuilder , how often do you use clen/T3 and how far out do you implement them?
I wouldn’t combine accutane and c17AA compounds. Also, you don’t need an ai, just drop test 1-2 weeks out
with clen I have no problems, on the contrary I sleep very well … just a little heat and sweating (I buy it in the pharmacy) … even with t4 at 50 mcg I had no problems (taken for a continuous month) How do you recommend taking the t3 and when should I drop it during the cycle? accutane is perfect for DHT compounds that can cause acne and I already have blackheads on my arms and shoulders, so with a minimal dose I arrive to contest with smooth and dry skin. I use it because I naturally have high estrogens and a gyno since I was a child (not visible but palpable) because I was fat. I do blood tests every 2 weeks during the cycle (only estradiol and alt). pre cycle and post cycle I do complete blood tests (hormonal, hematochrome …)
I’m179 cm for 90kg (10-12% body fat with BIA MACHINE)
Lack of visible side effects doesn’t equate to safe. I can drink a six pack without showcasing any evident signs intoxication, get up the next day like nothing happened… rinse and repeat… doesn’t mean I’m such behavior would be considered healthy, as internally immense damage is occurring
Clenbuteral induces alterations in cardiac morphology (arrhythmia induced), as would T3 dose dependently. What’s you’re RHR on this stuff?
last contest … i use sarms and after ph, clen,t4, adex during cycle … second place in juniores … pct clomid nolva
Little suppression of test… 2 week after pct the blood was perfect
I don’t use clen, the sides from it are horrible and it makes me feel shitty. In my last cut, I started T3 8 weeks out from my show so I had to dose it slightly higher than I wanted to, next time I will probably start 10 or 12 weeks out and dose it lower.
@unreal24278 I cant seem to find any actual figures of how much T3 the thyroid produces naturally and its equivalent dose in mcg. It’s said 25mcg is a full replacement dose, but cant find anything to confirm this other than bro knowledge. Care to shed some light?
The problem is it’s difficult to ascertain the equivilent amount via oral ingestion as people will metabolise and eliminate drugs differently (think of a bell curve)
However estimated T3 output is suggested to be about 30mcg/day, the majority from T4 deiodination
It was great. Thanks for asking. Me and my sisters go to my mom’s house since forever. Now our kids are mostly teenagers.
My son’s were looking forward to drinking some champagne lol. Probably the only way they can drink a small amount with my approval.
No judgement either way, I drank when I was underage, I think most kids do at some point in their adolescence… esp on new years so I’d be a hypocrite if I judged
14 twins. They only drank like 1/2 a cup.
I have made myself their chauffeur. So I am the dad that drives them and their friends around. Most times I stay in the place they go.
I keep an eye on things this way. It’s funny when someone tries to join their friend group and the person Vapes or drinks… They get flushed out of their circle pretty quick. Most times that kid won’t even want to hang out again cuz there is no smoking /drinking.
If it’s in a controlled, safe environment I’d say it’s far better than going out and drinking with other kids. At that age I think it’s important to be taught the notion of responsibility and moderation, so I actually think what you’re doing is the right way to go about it
I find many of the kids with the strictest parents also happen to be the naughtiest. Not going to specify who, but a relative of mine (very mixed up girl) age 14 (super strict, ridiculous parents who sometimes try instill various rules for no reason other than because “I’m the parent, you respect me, I can do what I want” etc.)
They have three kids, all of which periodically sneak around, lie and get up to no good (not bad kids, just mischevious) The girl recently came home a combination of both drunk and stoned… this is typically the kind of consequence I have observed from incredibly strict and/or overprotective parenting within members of my cohort. I believe the saying “strict parents create sneaky kids” has merit
Well where I live the median household income is a bit over 100k US$
Parents let the kids do what they want to much. You got 13 year olds do some pretty nasty stuff. Sex, drugs etc Parents drop them off at movies and pick them up hours later. Or parents not home kids go to their house and do nasty stuff.
My boys tell me that kids arrive at school with hangovers or get drunk during day. Bad shit. I
Well… yea… if a parent is having 14 y/olds over and allowing them to binge drink, smoke cannabis or nicotine… that’s… well I don’t know what’s that is other than profoundly irresponsible and inappropriate… perhaps even bordering on child neglect
I think perhaps many parents are naive, neglectful (have their own addictions/vices to worry about), or perhaps the parents simply aren’t there. When I was younger and kids did this, it was typically entirely absent of parental supervision (be it sneaking out, having alcoholic/drug addicted parents who didn’t care or lying and getting dropped off at a free house… I’m extremely guilty of the last example)
Kids with my 16 year old girl had about 25 kids over for Halloween party. I walk around unannounced. I have zero tolerance for alcohol, smoking, drugs. NYE exception but that’s with my kids only. No friends there.
You can see that the kids that left early… Were looking for other stuff to do.
Yup, I’m not going to tell you I’m some kind of saint who didn’t do exactly this. I was a rather mischevious young whippersnapper (and I still am)
The brunt of which started at around age 16. That being said if I was on someone elses property with parents around I would make a conscious effort to never engage in illegal activity (you see drinking is legal at house parties in Aus if underage but parental guardians are present, I believe the law was recently changed so that now all underage participants require a note from a parental guardian.)
So I’d typically toke up with others before getting to the party, or we would hop the fence to the next property (or something similar) then come back. Granted at this point I was almost 18, not saying it’s acceptable… but it’s a far cry from 14
This still happens even at 18-19 years of age. Typically reserved to close knit friend groups though, as otherwise the house gets trashed. I went to a free house about four months ago, we were supposed to leave no evidence of presence there… but it had been raining for a few days, the ground was muddy and wet. I pull up to the driveway and my car gets stuck in the mud, so we have to push my car whilst I’m revving the engine as hard as I can… we get the car out but there are the DEEPEST tire tracks at the front of the house… whoops
Played a fat game of cards against humanity though, it was terrific
I’m also a twin btw (fraternal, he is quite tall… 5’11). He is incredibly smart… but we are polar opposites, many have said to us if only we could get along, we’d complete one another as we’d fill characteristics between one another that we both individually lack
