Practitioners of Meditation

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
I’ve been practising meditation only this past year. I don’t apply strict rules to it but I try to do it in as quiet an environment as possible (like early morning), I focus on my breathing till its measured and deep. I am always seated with a straight spine. I usually have chanting music playing and I “think” about what I want. I also use meditation to forget negative aspects of my past and let go of grudges.

I’m still a newbie but I find this is an activity worth the time and effort.

Try to switch off all electrical devices while doing it. It interferes heavily. I usually don’t wear my watch either.

I did a whole week of mediation during a course in December and for lack of a better phrase my mind felt/feels like a still pond. [/quote]
So is your music magic or does the nether land of your mind forgive that device for blocking the power of the universe?

How advanced must one be to gain discernment? Is it possible to know which part of the universe is contributing to your flow of energy?

Like, does Mars give stronger creative power or Jupiter?

Do you find peace on Pluto or is it just too cold?

What benefits does a still pond for a mind bestow? Is it possible to meditate the mind in to a rushing river? A love river of serene creativity?[/quote]
Bump.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
I’ve been practising meditation only this past year. I don’t apply strict rules to it but I try to do it in as quiet an environment as possible (like early morning), I focus on my breathing till its measured and deep. I am always seated with a straight spine. I usually have chanting music playing and I “think” about what I want. I also use meditation to forget negative aspects of my past and let go of grudges.

I’m still a newbie but I find this is an activity worth the time and effort.

Try to switch off all electrical devices while doing it. It interferes heavily. I usually don’t wear my watch either.

I did a whole week of mediation during a course in December and for lack of a better phrase my mind felt/feels like a still pond. [/quote]
So is your music magic or does the nether land of your mind forgive that device for blocking the power of the universe?

How advanced must one be to gain discernment? Is it possible to know which part of the universe is contributing to your flow of energy?

Like, does Mars give stronger creative power or Jupiter?

Do you find peace on Pluto or is it just too cold?

What benefits does a still pond for a mind bestow? Is it possible to meditate the mind in to a rushing river? A love river of serene creativity?[/quote]
Bump.[/quote]

Join date: July 2011
Posts: 5007

I think you need another hobby besides trolling and banging fat chicks.

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[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
I’ve been practising meditation only this past year. I don’t apply strict rules to it but I try to do it in as quiet an environment as possible (like early morning), I focus on my breathing till its measured and deep. I am always seated with a straight spine. I usually have chanting music playing and I “think” about what I want. I also use meditation to forget negative aspects of my past and let go of grudges.

I’m still a newbie but I find this is an activity worth the time and effort.

Try to switch off all electrical devices while doing it. It interferes heavily. I usually don’t wear my watch either.

I did a whole week of mediation during a course in December and for lack of a better phrase my mind felt/feels like a still pond. [/quote]
So is your music magic or does the nether land of your mind forgive that device for blocking the power of the universe?

How advanced must one be to gain discernment? Is it possible to know which part of the universe is contributing to your flow of energy?

Like, does Mars give stronger creative power or Jupiter?

Do you find peace on Pluto or is it just too cold?

What benefits does a still pond for a mind bestow? Is it possible to meditate the mind in to a rushing river? A love river of serene creativity?[/quote]
Bump.[/quote]

Join date: July 2011
Posts: 5007

I think you need another hobby besides trolling and banging fat chicks.
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Like deep sea fishing? Hunting? Golfing? Checking out live music? Playing guitar? Lifting weights? Not wasting time sitting Indian style and humming? A shitty job that doesn’t allow all my time to be free time (office free time)? Wait… not that one.

Thanks for the advice though, enlightened bro.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Like deep sea fishing? Hunting? Golfing? Checking out live music? Playing guitar? Lifting weights? Not wasting time sitting Indian style and humming? A shitty job that doesn’t allow all my time to be free time (office free time)? Wait… not that one.

Thanks for the advice though, enlightened bro.[/quote]

I don’t meditate personally. It is amusing to watch you call it a waste of time, when you spend so much time in a thread dedicated to finding out how to not touch a woman.

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[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Like deep sea fishing? Hunting? Golfing? Checking out live music? Playing guitar? Lifting weights? Not wasting time sitting Indian style and humming? A shitty job that doesn’t allow all my time to be free time (office free time)? Wait… not that one.

Thanks for the advice though, enlightened bro.[/quote]

I don’t meditate personally. It is amusing to watch you call it a waste of time, when you spend so much time in a thread dedicated to finding out how to not touch a woman.[/quote]
It’s amusing you find that thread a waste of time but obviously read it, lurk bro.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
It’s amusing you find that thread a waste of time but obviously read it, lurk bro.[/quote]

Sorry I had to follow the thread for the train wreck it was. Admittedly it was a waste of my time.

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[quote]BeefEater wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
It’s amusing you find that thread a waste of time but obviously read it, lurk bro.[/quote]

Sorry I had to follow the thread for the train wreck it was. Admittedly it was a waste of my time.[/quote]
Sure thing, justification bro.

I’m out to grab dinner with real life bros. Have fun lurking my posts and tens of thousands of others.

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I use my Yoga practice as one form of meditation. The second form is more of a controlled breathing. I start with timed 10 second inhales and exhales. I work my way up to 30-45 second inhales/exhales. I don’t do much contemplating the universe stuff, but it is nice to sit around focusing on one goal with nothing else in my head. This style of practice makes for some hilarious moments amongst nurses when I’m hooked up to an EKG.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
I’ve been practising meditation only this past year. I don’t apply strict rules to it but I try to do it in as quiet an environment as possible (like early morning), I focus on my breathing till its measured and deep. I am always seated with a straight spine. I usually have chanting music playing and I “think” about what I want. I also use meditation to forget negative aspects of my past and let go of grudges.

I’m still a newbie but I find this is an activity worth the time and effort.

Try to switch off all electrical devices while doing it. It interferes heavily. I usually don’t wear my watch either.

I did a whole week of mediation during a course in December and for lack of a better phrase my mind felt/feels like a still pond. [/quote]
So is your music magic or does the nether land of your mind forgive that device for blocking the power of the universe?

How advanced must one be to gain discernment? Is it possible to know which part of the universe is contributing to your flow of energy?

Like, does Mars give stronger creative power or Jupiter?

Do you find peace on Pluto or is it just too cold?

What benefits does a still pond for a mind bestow? Is it possible to meditate the mind in to a rushing river? A love river of serene creativity?[/quote]

In meditation, devices don’t matter because we are the vessel channelling the energy. The music perhaps drowns out ambient noise and permits us to focus. Again meditating when the world is quiet is beneficial.

We are all beginners. The universe is infinite.

Neither, it’s Mercury. It’s linked to chakras.

Pluto was unknown to the earlier practitioners of meditation so I don’t believe it had any effect on the course of meditation.

How you conceive your own mind is up to you, you are the creator and what matters is what you create for yourself.

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[quote]Nards wrote:
OK, seriously, here’s a good book that’s in its full form online: The Religion of the Samurai Index

And you can use this chapter (Chapter 8) to learn how to meditate: http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/rosa/rosa10.htm[/quote]

thanks - this looks oddy familiar. I think I read it a few eons ago.

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My girlfriend once tried to get me into meditation. She had this Uri Geller tape that had relaxing sounds designed to lull you off without distraction but then he would come out and say stuff like “imagine you’re laying on a bed of marshmallow…”

We found that hilariously distracting.

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[quote]cakewalk wrote:
I’ve been a practitioner of transcendental meditation ™ since 1975. I meditate twice a day, for about 20 minutes each time, in a quiet, darkened room while sitting in a big, comfy chair. With my eyes closed, I silently repeat a one-word mantra, one that was given to me by my teacher, and find that I tend to drift into a very calm but aware state in a couple of minutes. I come out of the meditative state feeling very relaxed, and then just get on with my day or evening.

I’m not religious and do not associate TM with religious feelings or beliefs. Rather, it’s a highly effective method to quiet the brain, quell the usual freight train of disturbing thoughts and to gain some mental clarity. It’s no miracle cure, but I’ve had positive results in terms of relaxation and focus.

To address your question, for me the biggest effect is the quieting of that never-ending, and distracting, thought process, that “track”. Initially, in each session, it gets replaced by the repetitive drone of the mantra. However, after a few minutes that too subsides and new thoughts come unbidden. These are usually thoughts about deep issues in my life. I can’t say that I solve the issues, but they are often illuminated in new ways.

I’ve been doing a bit of online research. It appears that the TM organization now charges a steep fee to teach the technique. That’s unfortunate.[/quote]

I got my TM training back in the early 90s. It cost around $600 which was a huge amount of money to me at the time. I had always practiced a more ‘active’ form of meditation - lightly engaging the various thoughts that come up and coaxing them into the direction I desired. It was somewhat of a problem-solving exercise. TM is entirely passive, except for the mantra that is given by the teacher. I had to learn ‘hands-off’ all thoughts and to let all thoughts pass by. Today, I still flucuate between the passive/floaty, mantra driven TM meditation and the lightly active problem-solving meditation. That’s what works for me. ‘Non-positional’ is a key concept. If I find something or someone is bothering me, instead of fighting or arguing or stressing - I am able to get to the ‘non-positional’ stance by deciding…‘whatever happens works out to my huge benefit’ or ‘whatever they do works out for me - whether they intend it or not’. That seems to eliminate a lot of stress for me.

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[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
I’ve been practising meditation only this past year. I don’t apply strict rules to it but I try to do it in as quiet an environment as possible (like early morning), I focus on my breathing till its measured and deep. I am always seated with a straight spine. I usually have chanting music playing and I “think” about what I want. I also use meditation to forget negative aspects of my past and let go of grudges.

I’m still a newbie but I find this is an activity worth the time and effort.

Try to switch off all electrical devices while doing it. It interferes heavily. I usually don’t wear my watch either.

I did a whole week of mediation during a course in December and for lack of a better phrase my mind felt/feels like a still pond. [/quote]
So is your music magic or does the nether land of your mind forgive that device for blocking the power of the universe?

How advanced must one be to gain discernment? Is it possible to know which part of the universe is contributing to your flow of energy?

Like, does Mars give stronger creative power or Jupiter?

Do you find peace on Pluto or is it just too cold?

What benefits does a still pond for a mind bestow? Is it possible to meditate the mind in to a rushing river? A love river of serene creativity?[/quote]

In meditation, devices don’t matter because we are the vessel channelling the energy. The music perhaps drowns out ambient noise and permits us to focus. Again meditating when the world is quiet is beneficial.

We are all beginners. The universe is infinite.

Neither, it’s Mercury. It’s linked to chakras.

Pluto was unknown to the earlier practitioners of meditation so I don’t believe it had any effect on the course of meditation.

How you conceive your own mind is up to you, you are the creator and what matters is what you create for yourself.[/quote]
Interesting. Why mercury?

Just because old cultures didn’t know about Pluto means its energy force doesn’t exist? What does that say about meditation really? I totally believe in directing my own destiny but come on man, you only create so much.

I could get hit by a bus today, my minds eye isn’t creating that scenario. It would be an unlucky circumstance in a busy world.

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[quote]Stern wrote:
My girlfriend once tried to get me into meditation. She had this Uri Geller tape that had relaxing sounds designed to lull you off without distraction but then he would come out and say stuff like “imagine you’re laying on a bed of marshmallow…”

We found that hilariously distracting.
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Fucking Uri Geller…hey Uri, if it’s “all in your mind” why not bend the Eiffel Tower instead of a bloody spoon?!?

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[quote]Nards wrote:

[quote]Stern wrote:
My girlfriend once tried to get me into meditation. She had this Uri Geller tape that had relaxing sounds designed to lull you off without distraction but then he would come out and say stuff like “imagine you’re laying on a bed of marshmallow…”

We found that hilariously distracting.
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Fucking Uri Geller…hey Uri, if it’s “all in your mind” why not bend the Eiffel Tower instead of a bloody spoon?!?[/quote]

I know! I was gutted when I grew up and realised he was full of shit. =(

Anyway…don’t leave me hanging on the Effects of MIxing Alcohol thread man! Get that shit rolling! :stuck_out_tongue:

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^^ Huh? I started a thread about different effects, but I don’t condone mixing. Wait, are you talking about the alcohol thread started by HG?

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[quote]tmay11 wrote:
Any practitioners of meditation on these boards?

I have always been interested in meditation but have never took the initiative to begin. I decided recently, after reading the Steve Jobs biography, that I wanted to start. I’m looking for some insight on some resources that people have found helpful and opinions on different types of meditation.

I’m going to sound like a total hippie here but want to say (and see if anyone can relate) to how when I hear the state of “enlightenment” described it sounds very similar to how I feel when I sometimes get high. I particularly like the idea of “non-positional attitude”, “immediacy” and “fullness”. In the sense of having less “filter” I feel like this aptly describes a good high for me. Everything is fresh and without preconceived notions attached. I have less of a “track” playing in my head and can instead watch ideas pass my mind by and “pull” down ones at will. Once focused, I can dig into an idea with a kind of depth that I can’t do while straight. This is the type of thinking or state that I would like to develop through meditation and was wondering if anyone has had any luck doing so.

As a caveat to the above - I know that the feeling of enlightenment achieved while stoned could very well be just an illusion. I could feel I have more focus and less cloud when really I don’t. I fully recognize this. This doesn’t distract from my point though.[/quote]

We have a very DO-ing culture.

Maybe start with just letting yourself BE for a few minutes at a time once in a while. Don’t even try to breathe deeply; let it happen if it happens. Don’t try to accomplish anything.

You’re not ready to combine drugs with meditation; keep’em separated.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:
I’ve been practising meditation only this past year. I don’t apply strict rules to it but I try to do it in as quiet an environment as possible (like early morning), I focus on my breathing till its measured and deep. I am always seated with a straight spine. I usually have chanting music playing and I “think” about what I want. I also use meditation to forget negative aspects of my past and let go of grudges.

I’m still a newbie but I find this is an activity worth the time and effort.

Try to switch off all electrical devices while doing it. It interferes heavily. I usually don’t wear my watch either.

I did a whole week of mediation during a course in December and for lack of a better phrase my mind felt/feels like a still pond. [/quote]
So is your music magic or does the nether land of your mind forgive that device for blocking the power of the universe?

How advanced must one be to gain discernment? Is it possible to know which part of the universe is contributing to your flow of energy?

Like, does Mars give stronger creative power or Jupiter?

Do you find peace on Pluto or is it just too cold?

What benefits does a still pond for a mind bestow? Is it possible to meditate the mind in to a rushing river? A love river of serene creativity?[/quote]

In meditation, devices don’t matter because we are the vessel channelling the energy. The music perhaps drowns out ambient noise and permits us to focus. Again meditating when the world is quiet is beneficial.

We are all beginners. The universe is infinite.

Neither, it’s Mercury. It’s linked to chakras.

Pluto was unknown to the earlier practitioners of meditation so I don’t believe it had any effect on the course of meditation.

How you conceive your own mind is up to you, you are the creator and what matters is what you create for yourself.[/quote]
Interesting. Why mercury?

Just because old cultures didn’t know about Pluto means its energy force doesn’t exist? What does that say about meditation really? I totally believe in directing my own destiny but come on man, you only create so much.

I could get hit by a bus today, my minds eye isn’t creating that scenario. It would be an unlucky circumstance in a busy world.[/quote]

Chakras are linked to planets. It’s a belief/analogy but this analogy helps when trying to focus during meditation. It really depends on how meditation is taught to you so your method is probably just as right.

I guess it doesn’t really matter whether Pluto existed or not just that they didn’t believe it was connected to chakras.

It’s true you only can create so much.

I don’t think meditation is designed to prevent accidents from happening. Like you say it’s a “unlucky circumstance” and that is true.

Meditation for me is just a method to relax my mind and make decisions in a de-emotional state. Not “unfeeling” just in a calm, relaxed, mental state - if you can reach this using other methods then that’s perfectly okay. The end result is important.

I learned that wishing good on others, on everyone, creates a lot of positive emotion around. Whether you believe this to be true is not important just that there are many that do. I’m not a religious person and I’m not very good with religious protocols but I realise I have a strong spiritual side and this is why I nurture it through meditation.

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[quote]Nards wrote:
^^ Huh? I started a thread about different effects, but I don’t condone mixing. Wait, are you talking about the alcohol thread started by HG?[/quote]
Wut?

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Nards did you really write “Balls and music bid him to run mad.”??

theuofh: is it a short cut though or a different method? There are tons of cultures who guided themselves based off what shamans or the like saw during “trips.” I think people use it now incorrectly compared to history (like almost everything else) but its a tool no?

I have used Lucid Dreaming, OBE and others as a form of meditation. Very, very interesting.