I’d like to think there was some warning to the newbies when they complain about how people are picking on them.
Let there be life! bump!
The light! It burns!
Good to see someone is interested in bringing a bit of order back.
Any suggestions or additions?
I would like to remain part of the steroid forum without a elitist telling me that I’m an idiot and deserve to be put to death. My suggestion would be a steroid cell but I doubt Ill get invited to the party.
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
I would like to remain part of the steroid forum without a elitist telling me that I’m an idiot and deserve to be put to death. My suggestion would be a steroid cell but I doubt Ill get invited to the party. [/quote]
4 - 7 covers the respect thing. I think a steroid cell would be good idea. If someone wants an invite, all they really would need to do would be to post a previous/proposed cycle.
- The amount of time a person has been here has no bearing on their knowledge. There’s many people who have learned from other forums. We don’t want to let a potentially valuable poster be snubbed because they “haven’t paid their dues” here.
There are many other good forums despite what many of you may think. AFboard, Outlaw Muscle, and Professional Muscle to name a few. I consider this board to be more beginner/intermediate and those others more intermediate/advanced. It helps to get other perspectives as well.
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I don’t think flaming should ever happen. If you don’t like a post, just ignore it. Shitty attitudes is the number one reason everyone has been hating on this place lately.
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I agree with staying on topic.
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Veterans should never be rude if their behaviour is to be emulated. As you’ve noted, authors are hardly ever unprofessional. No one wants to listen to a jack-ass.
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I totally agree.
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A good rule for everybody.
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Agree again.
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Many other boards have a rep system which seems to keep the majority of people in line. People don’t like to get “negged”. Judicious banning with trolls helps also. With other boards the moderators are the vets and tend to participate in the majority of discussions. Sadly we don’t have that here.
Good post.
[quote]Dopamineloveaffa wrote:
- The amount of time a person has been here has no bearing on their knowledge. There’s many people who have learned from other forums. We don’t want to let a potentially valuable poster be snubbed because they “haven’t paid their dues” here.
There are many other good forums despite what many of you may think. AFboard, Outlaw Muscle, and Professional Muscle to name a few. I consider this board to be more beginner/intermediate and those others more intermediate/advanced. It helps to get other perspectives as well.
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I don’t think flaming should ever happen. If you don’t like a post, just ignore it. Shitty attitudes is the number one reason everyone has been hating on this place lately.
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I agree with staying on topic.
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Veterans should never be rude if their behaviour is to be emulated. As you’ve noted, authors are hardly ever unprofessional. No one wants to listen to a jack-ass.
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I totally agree.
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A good rule for everybody.
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Agree again.
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Many other boards have a rep system which seems to keep the majority of people in line. People don’t like to get “negged”. Judicious banning with trolls helps also. With other boards the moderators are the vets and tend to participate in the majority of discussions. Sadly we don’t have that here.
Good post.[/quote]
Very sensible post Dope.
[quote]Dopamineloveaffa wrote:
- The amount of time a person has been here has no bearing on their knowledge. There’s many people who have learned from other forums. We don’t want to let a potentially valuable poster be snubbed because they “haven’t paid their dues” here.[/quote]
I realize this, but you have to admit, some people come here and expect their word to be taken as gospel. One of the few relatively new people I’ve listened to would be JJ. Respectful, and yet willing to admit mistakes and learn.
Interesting point, and I might take a look at these boards…
True.
[quote]3. I agree with staying on topic.
- Veterans should never be rude if their behaviour is to be emulated. As you’ve noted, authors are hardly ever unprofessional. No one wants to listen to a jack-ass.[/quote]
Also true, but they are human too. Frustration hits boiling point, and most people will need to vent. But I’ll adjust that statement.
[quote]5. I totally agree.
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A good rule for everybody.
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Agree again.
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Many other boards have a rep system which seems to keep the majority of people in line. People don’t like to get “negged”. Judicious banning with trolls helps also. With other boards the moderators are the vets and tend to participate in the majority of discussions. Sadly we don’t have that here.[/quote]
The rep system has the potential to be abused, I think. But that’s up to the moderators.
But getting trolls banned would be a step in the right direction.
Thanks!
[quote]Dopamineloveaffa wrote:
- The amount of time a person has been here has no bearing on their knowledge. There’s many people who have learned from other forums. We don’t want to let a potentially valuable poster be snubbed because they “haven’t paid their dues” here.
There are many other good forums despite what many of you may think. AFboard, Outlaw Muscle, and Professional Muscle to name a few. I consider this board to be more beginner/intermediate and those others more intermediate/advanced. It helps to get other perspectives as well.
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I don’t think flaming should ever happen. If you don’t like a post, just ignore it. Shitty attitudes is the number one reason everyone has been hating on this place lately.
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I agree with staying on topic.
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Veterans should never be rude if their behaviour is to be emulated. As you’ve noted, authors are hardly ever unprofessional. No one wants to listen to a jack-ass.
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I totally agree.
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A good rule for everybody.
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Agree again.
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Many other boards have a rep system which seems to keep the majority of people in line. People don’t like to get “negged”. Judicious banning with trolls helps also. With other boards the moderators are the vets and tend to participate in the majority of discussions. Sadly we don’t have that here.
Good post.[/quote]
agreed. There are some pretty crappy attitudes on this board, especially in the steroid forum.
WTF Joe is new to the forum? Let me have a hallelujah! bump.
I honestly dont see what the big deal is here. I really think things are made difficult for no reason. I do know that AAS use is a very dangerous thing if done un wisely, everyone would agree on that. But the thing is, we are all here to learn. Some may know more than others, but this does not make them the god of steroids.
This is a place for people to learn and if we get so caught up on what people say and how they say it in their posts we will be missing the mark!
So accept it, some noobs are gonna ask ignorant questions, some are gonna get on your nerves and make you want to…whatever, some will learn quickly, others will make dumb mistakes, some are gonna call d-bol “diannaballs”!
The question is, what are the more experienced people gonna do? Are they gonna help them in any way possible to ensure their safety? Are they gonna guide them through the learning process for an extended period of time?
Or, are they gonna claim to be steroid forum gurus and ask noobs to bow down and show respect before addressing them? Are they gonna forget that they were once a noob? Are they gonna post up about how dumb noobs are and hope that the mods stiky it? Are they gonna leave the forum and never post again because they got mad or figured that they have arrived at the steroid heaven and there’s no more work to be done?
I know everything is not black and white, but to me, its a simple choice to be made. Either you’re going to help someone or not. All the in between stuff is what causes confusion.
Jazz
Doesn’t number 6 cover that? I mean, yes, you’re here to learn, but nobody is going to help a wise-ass. Just note that all of the vets are more than happy to critique, but they won’t lay out a cycle for you.
6. Check your ego at the door.
This is a public forum, but the vets command much more respect than you. They do pretty much run things based on a mutual respect sort of way. Respect everyone, learn, and give good advice. Don’t become a kiss-ass, but don’t provoke trouble either.
So then why not title your post “Posting Rules For Everyone”
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
I would like to remain part of the steroid forum without a elitist telling me that I’m an idiot and deserve to be put to death. My suggestion would be a steroid cell but I doubt Ill get invited to the party. [/quote]
I was wondering if anyone has heard of a sreroid called cyptanon ? It is not sustanon but has 4 different chemicals in it. Is this fake ?
[quote]Jazz_Man1898 wrote:
So then why not title your post “Posting Rules For Everyone”[/quote]
Because most of the older posters can behave themselves.
Let there be bump.
[quote]Jazz_Man1898 wrote:
I honestly dont see what the big deal is here. I really think things are made difficult for no reason. I do know that AAS use is a very dangerous thing if done un wisely, everyone would agree on that.
But the thing is, we are all here to learn. Some may know more than others, but this does not make them the god of steroids.
This is a place for people to learn and if we get so caught up on what people say and how they say it in their posts we will be missing the mark!
So accept it, some noobs are gonna ask ignorant questions, some are gonna get on your nerves and make you want to…whatever, some will learn quickly, others will make dumb mistakes, some are gonna call d-bol “diannaballs”!
The question is, what are the more experienced people gonna do? Are they gonna help them in any way possible to ensure their safety? Are they gonna guide them through the learning process for an extended period of time?
Or, are they gonna claim to be steroid forum gurus and ask noobs to bow down and show respect before addressing them? Are they gonna forget that they were once a noob? Are they gonna post up about how dumb noobs are and hope that the mods stiky it?
Are they gonna leave the forum and never post again because they got mad or figured that they have arrived at the steroid heaven and there’s no more work to be done?
I know everything is not black and white, but to me, its a simple choice to be made. Either you’re going to help someone or not. All the in between stuff is what causes confusion.
Jazz[/quote]
good post
Trust me when I say: I’m not trying to lock the newbies out!
Think of it as a filter. Despite JJ not being here for more than 3 months, I’d still listen to what he has to say. Simply because in the short time he’s been here, he’s proved that he can hold an intelligent conversation about AAS.
No, i know where your intentions are/were Mak.
Jazz made some good points as to where the direction of this thread could go… its upto YOU Mak to prevent DISCRIMINATION for the little guy…! ;D
J
“Out of subject” All in all even with all occasional crap posts and elitist trying to make a point that no one would give two fucks and a duck about, this has to be the best managed, informational, educated, and easiest to use forum on the subject of AAS.
I’ve just spent the greater part of this day looking at others. Rampant source posting, constant “hey bro, yo bro,” comments. A bunch of MMAguy’s posting it up like its nobodys business. I looked like a vet in some of them.
Me! A member of the tough cunt club according to RJ. Bro this bro that. There was a couple of good ones, good information about subjects that T-Nation doesn’t condone posting, but T-Nation remains the greatest. Can you give me a bump, oh Lord! Giveth me a bump!