Post-Workout Oatmeal?

Nutrition
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Hi all, this is my first post on the nation although I’ve been lurking the forums for quite some time. Anyways, I’ve been meaning to ask this question;

My post-workout shake consists of 50g Whey, 5g creatine monohydrate and about 100g from powdered oats.

I know that oatmeal is a slow digesting carb but I just love how it tastes when mixed with my whey. Is the fact that the oatmeal is powdered (literally) make it a good carb source for post-workout or is it still slow digesting and a big no no for a good post-workout shake?

Thank You!

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I wouldn’t worry about it, if you enjoy it keep doing it. Training is about enjoyment, big guys for decades have been doing carbs post workout.

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Personally I’d say take the shake before your workout, so your body can utilize all those nutrients both during and after your lift.

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I have a good pre workout nutrition, about an hour before I eat 1 cup brown rice with 2 chicken breasts, and 30 minutes before I take 5g creatine with coffee and a banana.

My question isn’t based on the fact if I should eat carbs post workout, it is clear that I have to.

My question is that, is the fact that oatmeal is a slow digesting carb, even if it is powdered, make it a bad post workout ingredient because it wont spike my insulin as quickly as some other simple carb source, or does the fact that it is powdered make it easily digested by my body?

Thank You!

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It’s not optimal to eat carbs post to spike insulin. If your worried about getting the nutrients in and the oatmeal slowing it down drink 25g of whey right after your workout then 25g with the oatmeal a half hour later. If you are just worried about spiking insulin do what WestCoast said and move the oatmeal to pre workout.

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Listen to this guy ^ and Westcoast

Taking carbs immediately post workout is NOT necessary. Not a bad thing for some people, but certainly not necessary.

Read more of CT’s writing on the subject

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Ok, thank you all!

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If you notice intestinal distress when using powdered oats, look up lectins. I and others here have written on the subject, and the internet has a lot on it.

If you do have this issue, you can toast the powdered oats in a non-stick pan. This should take care of the issue.

Personally, I never realized how much distress lectins caused me until I cooked my oats instead of eating them raw.

MID

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Please tell me if I am wrong but I’ve been hearing for years that simple carbs pwo will spike insulin and is

optimal for faster nutrient uptake to shuttle protien and other nutrients to muscle cells. Please clarify

this for me… Is this true? Or just another plot to get us to buy their exspensive supplements with ass loads

of sugars?

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[quote]heavychevy1988 wrote:
Please tell me if I am wrong but I’ve been hearing for years that simple carbs pwo will spike insulin and is

optimal for faster nutrient uptake to shuttle protien and other nutrients to muscle cells. Please clarify

this for me… Is this true? Or just another plot to get us to buy their exspensive supplements with ass loads

of sugars?[/quote]

This is basically what I asked, still need some input on that though.

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[quote]heavychevy1988 wrote:
Please tell me if I am wrong but I’ve been hearing for years that simple carbs pwo will spike insulin and is

optimal for faster nutrient uptake to shuttle protien and other nutrients to muscle cells. Please clarify

this for me… Is this true? Or just another plot to get us to buy their exspensive supplements with ass loads

of sugars?[/quote]

I think people are misunderstanding the context in which insulin is regarded PWO.

Just because insulin is associated with nutrient storage does not mean that’s only what it’s good for.

You don’t need an insulin spike PWO for NUTRIENT STORAGE because your muscles will supposedly be more insulin sensitive following a workout , and consuming pretty much any food will cause a rise in insulin.

However, insulin will also NEGATE catabolism, which will occur after a hard training session; you want to spike insulin to negate catabolism. It doesn’t need to be with 100s of calories, either.

Also, people forget that catabolism is not bad but NET catabolism is (anabolism - catabolism, when catabolism > anabolism). Catabolism is actually required for muscle growth because it is involved in the restructuring of tissue. Your body doesn’t simply “add” layers of muscle to what you already have.

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[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:

[quote]heavychevy1988 wrote:
Please tell me if I am wrong but I’ve been hearing for years that simple carbs pwo will spike insulin and is

optimal for faster nutrient uptake to shuttle protien and other nutrients to muscle cells. Please clarify

this for me… Is this true? Or just another plot to get us to buy their exspensive supplements with ass loads

of sugars?[/quote]

I think people are misunderstanding the context in which insulin is regarded PWO.

Just because insulin is associated with nutrient storage does not mean that’s only what it’s good for.

You don’t need an insulin spike PWO for NUTRIENT STORAGE because your muscles will supposedly be more insulin sensitive following a workout , and consuming pretty much any food will cause a rise in insulin.

However, insulin will also NEGATE catabolism, which will occur after a hard training session; you want to spike insulin to negate catabolism. It doesn’t need to be with 100s of calories, either.

Also, people forget that catabolism is not bad but NET catabolism is (anabolism - catabolism, when catabolism > anabolism). Catabolism is actually required for muscle growth because it is involved in the restructuring of tissue. Your body doesn’t simply “add” layers of muscle to what you already have.[/quote]

Not that you implied this, but for clarity, carbs are not the only way to spike insulin. A substantial amount of whey protein will also spike insulin.

For the two guys asking questions about simple carbs used post workout. Too many people, myself included, have made long posts about the new theories and research on this topic. There are also articles about it by CT. You arent getting replies because people dont feel like typing shit for the 4th 5th and 6th times.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:

[quote]heavychevy1988 wrote:
Please tell me if I am wrong but I’ve been hearing for years that simple carbs pwo will spike insulin and is

optimal for faster nutrient uptake to shuttle protien and other nutrients to muscle cells. Please clarify

this for me… Is this true? Or just another plot to get us to buy their exspensive supplements with ass loads

of sugars?[/quote]

I think people are misunderstanding the context in which insulin is regarded PWO.

Just because insulin is associated with nutrient storage does not mean that’s only what it’s good for.

You don’t need an insulin spike PWO for NUTRIENT STORAGE because your muscles will supposedly be more insulin sensitive following a workout , and consuming pretty much any food will cause a rise in insulin.

However, insulin will also NEGATE catabolism, which will occur after a hard training session; you want to spike insulin to negate catabolism. It doesn’t need to be with 100s of calories, either.

Also, people forget that catabolism is not bad but NET catabolism is (anabolism - catabolism, when catabolism > anabolism). Catabolism is actually required for muscle growth because it is involved in the restructuring of tissue. Your body doesn’t simply “add” layers of muscle to what you already have.[/quote]

Not that you implied this, but for clarity, carbs are not the only way to spike insulin. A substantial amount of whey protein will also spike insulin.

For the two guys asking questions about simple carbs used post workout. Too many people, myself included, have made long posts about the new theories and research on this topic. There are also articles about it by CT. You arent getting replies because people dont feel like typing shit for the 4th 5th and 6th times. [/quote]

Correct. I did not feel like clarifying that because my post was getting lengthy.

Yes, just about anything can spike insulin, especially whey but also BCAAs, but carbs are supposed to be the most insulinogenic macro. That’s what I was hoping was already understood by OP and others.

Carbs obviously have added benefits as well.

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You had also mentioned that you like to mix your whey in your oatmeal, which you should not do due to the heat of the oatmeal denaturing the protein.

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Think of it like this, people were getting big and strong way before supplements were ever available let alone before all this talk of pre, post and peri-workout nutrition.

Only worry about post workout nutrition once you confident that you are busting your balls adequately enough in the gym, have your diet dialled in and are consuming enough surplus calories to recover and grow.

Think overall calories for the time being as opposed to timing. Get this nailed and be consistent, then sweat the small stuff.

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[quote]DR1392 wrote:
…powdered oats…[/quote]

Hah, READY BREK just say it :wink:

H