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I believe too much attention is paid to Bush’s foreign policy when judgements are made about him. As significant as the events in the middle east have been during the years of this current administration, they pale in comparison to the consequenses of President Bush’s indifference towards enviromental issues.

I doubt it will be the actions of middle eastern dictators and radical militants that will cause the suffering and turmoil that will ravage future generations but rather the toxic air, lack of natural resources and unsustainable agricultural practices that threaten to send our civilization in a downward spiral towards a dark and uncertain future.

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[quote]tme wrote:
I think Bush is a lying piece of shit and far and away the worst president in my lifetime. It is going to take many years, if it can even be done, to recover from the damage inflicted by this adminstration.

Ok, now zebivan is going to chime in with some asinine comment about the “haters” responding to the fucking retard’s thread.

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Actually, all evidence coming out shows that the liberal left is, in fact, the lying pieces of shit. You really need to get off the liberal blogs because they are warping your mind.

When Bush took office in 2000 (very late in the game, thanks to crybaby Al Gore), Carl Levin (D-MI) held up all Bush’s appointments. So guess who was in place, in charge of the bureaucracy, and doing every damn thing to undermine Bush when 9/11 hit???

You liberals really need to wake up, or it’s going to be too late.

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[quote]danmaftei wrote:
I’d just like to point out that if one person says Bush is a good president because he sticks to his guns and never flops I will kill you via e-mail anthrax. Lest we forget, Hitler stuck to his guns also. There’s nothing wrong with changing your mind. In fact, in the complex world of politics, it would be ridiculous over an 8-year collective term not to change your viewpoints.

With that said, I thoroughly dislike Bush, but given our other option, I can’t say one’s all that better than the other.[/quote]

It’s wimpy, wishy-washy shit like this that causes nutty-ass terrorists to fly planes into our buildings. Grab your balls and take a stand on something. I, for one, stand with my country. I love my country. Fuck everybody else. Seriously. If you don’t like the U.S., you have the freedom to leave. Please. Leave.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Not attacked since September 11? These are people who still refer to “Andalusia” as being Muslim, they think very long-term, that means virtually nothing. What a waste, probably the same way many Democrats felt about Clinton. Two more years, unfortunately. Steveo, you are not very smart.

Well put. These people can remain in sleeper cells for decades. Who cares if we haven’t been hit in 5 years if they plan to hit us again in a large way 5 years later? Wouldn’t a smart terrorist wait until the heat died down a little? I mean, I know it makes some of you feel better to think all of these people are stupid…but they aren’t.[/quote]

A smart terrorist . . . hmmmmm . . . .

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[quote]hundfuhrer99 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Not attacked since September 11? These are people who still refer to “Andalusia” as being Muslim, they think very long-term, that means virtually nothing. What a waste, probably the same way many Democrats felt about Clinton. Two more years, unfortunately. Steveo, you are not very smart.

Well put. These people can remain in sleeper cells for decades. Who cares if we haven’t been hit in 5 years if they plan to hit us again in a large way 5 years later? Wouldn’t a smart terrorist wait until the heat died down a little? I mean, I know it makes some of you feel better to think all of these people are stupid…but they aren’t.

A smart terrorist . . . hmmmmm . . . . [/quote]

Your response is stupid if you mean that the people we are fighting are all complete morons. Thinking like that will ensure that we get hit again. Maybe it helps you sleep at night to think this. Hopefully, there are smarter people than that working in counter-terrorism.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Hopefully, there are smarter people than that working in counter-terrorism.[/quote]

Given recent evidence of Hund’s intelligence, I’d say we can pretty much count on it.

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
harris447 wrote:

And secondly, you are one of the dimmest trolls here - don’t you feel embarrassed lecturing people on how to think? You should, so stop doing it.

And…I second that!

Shouldn’t you be gaybashing somewhere?

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Shouldn’t you be hate mongering somewhere else?

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[quote]jasonigor wrote:

I never reveal weaknesses.
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Really? I find that to be a weakness.

:wink:

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My thoughts.

WE MUST GO TO WAR AGAIN. Yet this time we must have some more support. How? I’m not sure.

If we continue to take this pussy foot approach and stand by, Iran WILL have nukes.

We must take that countries capabilities out RIGHT NOW! If we do not, it will be too late.

At the same time we must go after North Korea. We must eliminate their capabilities and change the regime there too.

If we wait, we the damage to us will be 100 times greater than a proactive approach.

Unfortunately the world does not really see terrorism as a worldwide issue or threat. Only the US/UK/Isreal (primarily) are really fighting this war on terror.

The Hezbolla IN Iran are wating for us. We need to go get them before they get past their point of no return when Iran gives them Nukes…or North Korea. Iranians were at the NK missle launches as NK wants to start selling their shit to Iran.

If we wait, the end game will be their play, not ours.

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:
My thoughts.

WE MUST GO TO WAR AGAIN. Yet this time we must have some more support. How? I’m not sure.

If we continue to take this pussy foot approach and stand by, Iran WILL have nukes.

We must take that countries capabilities out RIGHT NOW! If we do not, it will be too late.

At the same time we must go after North Korea. We must eliminate their capabilities and change the regime there too.

If we wait, we the damage to us will be 100 times greater than a proactive approach.

Unfortunately the world does not really see terrorism as a worldwide issue or threat. Only the US/UK/Isreal (primarily) are really fighting this war on terror.

The Hezbolla IN Iran are wating for us. We need to go get them before they get past their point of no return when Iran gives them Nukes…or North Korea. Iranians were at the NK missle launches as NK wants to start selling their shit to Iran.

If we wait, the end game will be their play, not ours.[/quote]

What world do you live in where the US can start 2 or 3 major wars and actually win them all at the same time? You all can keep on believing we won’t need a draft if you want to.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
My thoughts.

WE MUST GO TO WAR AGAIN. Yet this time we must have some more support. How? I’m not sure.

If we continue to take this pussy foot approach and stand by, Iran WILL have nukes.

We must take that countries capabilities out RIGHT NOW! If we do not, it will be too late.

At the same time we must go after North Korea. We must eliminate their capabilities and change the regime there too.

If we wait, we the damage to us will be 100 times greater than a proactive approach.

Unfortunately the world does not really see terrorism as a worldwide issue or threat. Only the US/UK/Isreal (primarily) are really fighting this war on terror.

The Hezbolla IN Iran are wating for us. We need to go get them before they get past their point of no return when Iran gives them Nukes…or North Korea. Iranians were at the NK missle launches as NK wants to start selling their shit to Iran.

If we wait, the end game will be their play, not ours.

What world do you live in where the US can start 2 or 3 major wars and actually win them all at the same time? You all can keep on believing we won’t need a draft if you want to.[/quote]

I did say we need more support, so yes I realize we can’t go it alone. Bush needs to somehow get the world to realize this fanatical nuclear threat. We can still run all the ops in 3 wars if we have enough support.

I believe Japan would be a major ally for the NK side of the map. I do believe they could be ready to take out that threat alone.

This leaves the middle east up to us. I think we can do it.

If a draft protects us from nukes, I’m for it.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
don’t you feel embarrassed lecturing people on how to think? You should, so stop doing it.

And…I second that!
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Oh, the fucking irony.

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:

I did say we need more support,[/quote]

It’s funny how now we need that much support…after we have spent the last 5 years bragging about how great we were.

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[quote]tme wrote:
ZEB wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
don’t you feel embarrassed lecturing people on how to think? You should, so stop doing it.

And…I second that!

Oh, the fucking irony.
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The Godless liberals sure do stick together…Ha…

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:
My thoughts.

WE MUST GO TO WAR AGAIN. Yet this time we must have some more support. How? I’m not sure.

If we continue to take this pussy foot approach and stand by, Iran WILL have nukes.

We must take that countries capabilities out RIGHT NOW! If we do not, it will be too late.

At the same time we must go after North Korea. We must eliminate their capabilities and change the regime there too.

If we wait, we the damage to us will be 100 times greater than a proactive approach.

Unfortunately the world does not really see terrorism as a worldwide issue or threat. Only the US/UK/Isreal (primarily) are really fighting this war on terror.

The Hezbolla IN Iran are wating for us. We need to go get them before they get past their point of no return when Iran gives them Nukes…or North Korea. Iranians were at the NK missle launches as NK wants to start selling their shit to Iran.

If we wait, the end game will be their play, not ours.[/quote]

Wow, this is some of the most simplistic shit I have ever read on one of these politics threads. WE MUST GO TO WAR AGAIN. Never mind that by any sober, non-politicized intelligence analysis Iran is several years, at best, from a nuke.

Never mind that the U.S. military is, by virtually all accounts (and please spare me the liberal media song and dance), losing in Iraq. Never mind that going to war with Iran would destroy our best chance for a permanent resolution there, as the huge young population (as a result of a government-driven baby boom due to casualties in the Iran-Iraq War) that detests the decaying theocracy is driven into the arms of the mullahs by an attack on their country.

Let me be the lone heretic here on this issue. What happens, if, absolute worst case, Iran gets a handful of nuclear weapons? Is it a good thing? Of course not, it adds an ardent enemy of America to the nuclear club. Are they going to use it? No, of course not. Ever hear of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction)?

It kept the Soviets at bay for forty years. If Iran were to nuke New York (if it could) or even Tel Aviv, it would be turned into a sea of glass. They know this. A theocracy, even one made up of those scary Muslims, does not equal a country with a death wish. If you want to do some serious reading on this instead of posting this kind of crap, I’d be happy to email you a longish report that the National Defense University did on the subject about a year back.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
jasonigor wrote:

I never reveal weaknesses.

Really? I find that to be a weakness.

;)[/quote]

While power is powerful and weakness is weak, power can sabotage itself, and the weakness of others has power to command our attention and service.

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[quote]GDollars37 wrote:

It kept the Soviets at bay for forty years. If Iran were to nuke New York (if it could) or even Tel Aviv, it would be turned into a sea of glass. They know this. A theocracy, even one made up of those scary Muslims, does not equal a country with a death wish. If you want to do some serious reading on this instead of posting this kind of crap, I’d be happy to email you a longish report that the National Defense University did on the subject about a year back.[/quote]

So you are saying that Iran holds the same values as the powers with the bomb and would not actually use the nukes? Horseshit.

What I write is the plain truth. Nobody in this world will stand up to these threats but us. I say get it over before nuclear weapons are in the wrong hands.

This issue is also one of Iran brokering arms to a fanatical group who specifically wants to kill us and is based inside the country. Do these groups share the same mindset of the study you refer to? I think not.

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I see a lot of strong opinions on this thread (and all other political threads that I’ve perused), and I was just wondering what steps the posters have taken to bring about the decisions that they have proposed/advocated for in these threads. I’m interested in having my own thoughts/views implemented (who doesn’t) and I’m just curious what others have found to be successful means of achieving this.

Regards,

TRM

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:

It kept the Soviets at bay for forty years. If Iran were to nuke New York (if it could) or even Tel Aviv, it would be turned into a sea of glass. They know this. A theocracy, even one made up of those scary Muslims, does not equal a country with a death wish. If you want to do some serious reading on this instead of posting this kind of crap, I’d be happy to email you a longish report that the National Defense University did on the subject about a year back.

So you are saying that Iran holds the same values as the powers with the bomb and would not actually use the nukes? Horseshit.

What I write is the plain truth. Nobody in this world will stand up to these threats but us. I say get it over before nuclear weapons are in the wrong hands.

This issue is also one of Iran brokering arms to a fanatical group who specifically wants to kill us and is based inside the country. Do these groups share the same mindset of the study you refer to? I think not.
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The Soviet Union never preached martydom. Iran does.

Can we trust that Iran will not martyr itself?

Does Iran even believe we will retaliate if they use a nuke?

We have not retaliated for very many of the terrorist acts they or their proxys have perpetrated.

Rockscar is 100% right. The evil men in charge of Iran must not be allowed to have a nuclear weapons.

They are trying to bring about the end of the world as part of their insane religious fantasies.