I’ve never really seen this described in any real detail, and I would like to hear what kind of program others have followed post cycle for maximizing gains kept.
I would imagine that the week after my first injection can still be pretty intense with high volume. After that I plan to back off the volume, try and keep the weight high. Heavy compounds mainly, sets of around 5 reps, maybe 12-16 sets per workout. I’ll do this three days a week, one pull, one push and one leg day. Does this look about right? Any critiques?
Well I can tell you just from my own experiences is that I didn’t really change my workout THAT much. I still did the same type of split, even though I change up exercises and reps frequently so the body doesn’t adapt, and I kept a week where I would deload. Lighten my weights up a bit however increase the reps or even stay at the same reps just to give my body a rest from the constant heavy training. Your strength will obviously decrease a bit but other than that I have kept my training pretty similar and have come off just fine. hope this helps
I always attempt to keep the intensity (weight) about the same. I’ll admit that I have to drop weight at some point. However i will drop the duration and volume of my workouts more than the intensity. Like JB I keep my splits the same and I throw in a deload week when I start to feel a little beat up. Basically keep in mind that you are not going to recover as quickly, so plan accordingly.
Why not use a back-off week to let your body supercomp. with the extra androgens still in your system? Then go to a full-body routine for a few weeks–frequency is good, lower volume is good when you’re test impaired, and you’re really just trying to maintain your gains right? So frequency should help you a lot more than high volume will in terms of making your body use that extra muscle and not ditch it.
See, I always thought a change in volume would be the only thing needed.
Your recovery ability will be less than the last couple of months so switching it around from something like 3 sets of 6 to 6 sets of 3. Or even dropping an exercise or two and just focus on a main compound lift. Keeping the weights up but the volume down.
Of course, this is just me brainstorming, no real practical knowledge at work as you know…
Honestly I have heard many different methods, I personally keep training relatively the same as I mentioned. However I add in a large amount of amino acids throughout the day and during the workout as well as creatine.
I also have mentioned that i tend to use relatively low dosages so maybe that’s why I can get away with doing the same type of thing. So I guess it comes down to how you feel and how your own body responds, everyone is different.
Thanks for all of the replies, guys. I used the word “intensity” incorrectly in this case. Looks like I am basically on the right track. I’ll drop a lot of the high rep isolation work that I do after my heavy stuff now, focus on keeping the intensity (weight) high, with relatively low reps and a decent amount of sets. Three times a week, push, pull, legs.
Another question. Some very low intesity cardio (say a light 20 minute jog or brisk walk) in the mornings 3 or 4 days a week is not going to make me wither up and blow away in the wind, right?
Cortes how exactly are you coming off your cycle? Straight from test to pct? Taper? What was the amount taken during the cycle? Just wondering because I believe with a good steady taper there should be no need to change the volume in the workout. But like everyone else said the load would eventually change.
[quote]BUSHMASTER wrote:
Cortes how exactly are you coming off your cycle? Straight from test to pct? Taper? What was the amount taken during the cycle? Just wondering because I believe with a good steady taper there should be no need to change the volume in the workout. But like everyone else said the load would eventually change.[/quote]
Bush, he's tapering. Also, most if not all of us ARE telling him to change the volume(decrease), not the load(keep up). Maybe you misunderstood us.
I know before I used to change the load,(lighter), and try to keep the volume up, and I always lost a significant amount of strength and hypertrophy.
When I learned and started keeping intensity/weight up as high as possible, and drop the volume somewhat, things went much, much better, and I only lost a very, very small amount of strength/hypertrophy this way. This was from my oral runs with drol/winnie.
The amount of volume would depend on one's own natural recovery abilities, but I would definitely say you'll hold onto more of both strength/mass with a heavy load and fewer exercises/sets/reps vs. the other way around when off cycle.
ToneBone
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
BUSHMASTER wrote:
Cortes how exactly are you coming off your cycle? Straight from test to pct? Taper? What was the amount taken during the cycle? Just wondering because I believe with a good steady taper there should be no need to change the volume in the workout. But like everyone else said the load would eventually change.
Bush, he's tapering. Also, most if not all of us ARE telling him to change the volume(decrease), not the load(keep up). Maybe you misunderstood us.
I know before I used to change the load,(lighter), and try to keep the volume up, and I always lost a significant amount of strength and hypertrophy.
When I learned and started keeping intensity/weight up as high as possible, and drop the volume somewhat, things went much, much better, and I only lost a very, very small amount of strength/hypertrophy this way. This was from my oral runs with drol/winnie.
The amount of volume would depend on one's own natural recovery abilities, but I would definitely say you'll hold onto more of both strength/mass with a heavy load and fewer exercises/sets/reps vs. the other way around when off cycle.
ToneBone[/quote]