Well I have been running a simple 500mg/week Test-E cycle for 13 weeks, and have taken my last injection last night.
Note that this was my first cycle, and I can’t complain.
My body mass has went from 187 lbs. to 206 lbs. a 19 lb increase, while keeping roughly the same body fat. However I have noticed a slight increase in body fat around my waist area, likly because I have been eating like a horse for the last three months.
Just a few numbers to show strength increase
Before — After
Flat Bench press: 225 x6 — 295 x 7
Squats: 225 x 10 — 315 x 8
Deadlifts: 225 x 8 — 315 x 8
Bicep Curls: 95 x 8 — 115 x 10
I have started my clomid/nolva PCT, and will continue this for 3-4 more weeks. However my main concern is how long should I wait before starting a cutting cycle without losing any major gains, I have read to wait about 2-3 months, is this enough? And also, during this cutting cycle I was thinking about doing a winny cycle, is this wise?
Personally at 6’1 206 id do another bulking cycle first. buuut if your set on a cut then id say wait AT LEAST that long before you do. and why not throw some prop in there beside the winny and add some LBM while you do it? thats my opinions maybe a couple vets will stop in and let you pick there brains
[quote]Game_over wrote:
Personally at 6’1 206 id do another bulking cycle first. buuut if your set on a cut then id say wait AT LEAST that long before you do. and why not throw some prop in there beside the winny and add some LBM while you do it? thats my opinions maybe a couple vets will stop in and let you pick there brains[/quote]
Good post.
Yes, keep test in your next cycle. And every cycle. Test is good stuff. Also, are you competing? If not, why not do a next cycle that is moderate in terms of diet and heavy in terms of training? Lose some bodyfat while putting on muscle.
Some guys keep their diet extremely clean and actually diet “up” instead of down. It will be more work, but I agree with Game_over that at 6’1" 206 you have plenty of growing to do. Not to mention you are going to lose a few more lbs in the next few weeks.
Makes sense to me, bigger the better. Now my new question is…would another Test-E cycle be as effective as the first one or should I look for a new cycle to get maximum gains. I got plenty of time, because I won’t be doing a second cycle anytime too soon.
Anyone is going to tell you that you first cycle is your best and you will make the most gains buut is it always true? i dont think so because generally beginners dont have their diet perfect or their training dialed in so IMO you can make even more impressive gains out of your next cycles to come, if not in weight and size then def. LBM, especially since you did the smart thing and went for a test only cycle for your first, now because you know how you react you can start to insert other compounds to aid, such as an oral kickstart with say d-bol, drol, drol/winny d-bol/anavar…etc. you get the point
[quote]gesture wrote:
Well I have been running a simple 500mg/week Test-E cycle for 13 weeks, and have taken my last injection last night.
Note that this was my first cycle, and I can’t complain.
My body mass has went from 187 lbs. to 206 lbs. a 19 lb increase, while keeping roughly the same body fat. However I have noticed a slight increase in body fat around my waist area, likly because I have been eating like a horse for the last three months.
Just a few numbers to show strength increase
Before — After
Flat Bench press: 225 x6 — 295 x 7
Squats: 225 x 10 — 315 x 8
Deadlifts: 225 x 8 — 315 x 8
Bicep Curls: 95 x 8 — 115 x 10
I have started my clomid/nolva PCT, and will continue this for 3-4 more weeks. However my main concern is how long should I wait before starting a cutting cycle without losing any major gains, I have read to wait about 2-3 months, is this enough? And also, during this cutting cycle I was thinking about doing a winny cycle, is this wise? [/quote]
Adex might help with BF control during a cycle, something to try. Adex all trough the cycle and with the PCT/SERM, taper off of the adex after PCT 1mg/wk for a while then cruise on .5mg/wk. Looks like .5mg ED for that cycle.