What kind of diet should someone follow after finishing a testosterone cycle? Assuming all macros especially carbs and protein should drop ?
I’d try to maintain weight for awhile. You will likely lose some water weight once the Testosterone and Estrogen levels decline. I’d try to maintain that post water loss weight for a few months. If you cut right away, that new muscle may also go away.
My primary objective between cycles was to keep as much muscle as I could that I got from the cycle. I assumed that it took as much protein and carbohydrates to keep muscle without AAS, as it does to build muscle on AAS.
You should know getting excess fat was never a problem that I had to deal with.
Interesting why would they drop? Steroids make more efficient nutrient partitioning, meaning that the food you eat is used more efficient to build muscle. So when you go off and have 0 test and spend months to get back to sub-standard levels, your nutrient partitioning is shit. So if something, the macros could go down when you are ON. And up when you go off, in hopes to get similar amount of food absorbed and usef.
I figured that once off cycle eating 400 grams of protein per day was unnecessary. I do want to try maintain weight at around 205 lbs but was thinking that less protein was needed and less carbs for sure
So you’re saying you basically keep the same diet year round regardless of being on or off cycle?
Think about it this way: when on cycle, you used AAS and food as your sources to grow and build muscle. Now you drop the AAS. What source do you have left to grow/maintain the newly acquired muscle? Why would you lower the only source you have left? What do you think will happen to whatever new tissue you gained if you take away one source of fuel completely (AAS) and limit the other(food)?
For muscles, dropping down to a cruise / TRT testosterone diet.
Food: more of what you were doing. Goals? Lean or power/fat?
Pretty much so. But this depends on if you need or want to adjust your body composition. I liked to keep my percent body fat below 15%, then I only needed to cut for a competition, which I always did on a cycle.
I believe you are way ahead of the game not having to cut when not on AAS. Do not let your body fat get excessive! IMO, bodybuilding is a 365 day a year endeavor.
I’d say that line of thinking extends to training as well. Unless the goal is to only have the muscle while on cycle, I’d say training should look similar between being on and off (or cruise). I’ve seen guys add days and do extra long sessions while on, but no plan of training like that while off. You can guess what happens shortly after they come off.
Eating that is unnecessary on and off. Where did you get those numbers? Did you ever read/watch anything about this topic? The knowledge you have seems to be some 25 years backwards
I wasn’t eating that much on aas either just rounding up. I’m 6ft 205 around 10% bodyfat. Was aiming for like 350 grams of protein and carbs and 90 fat. Never really hit those numbers consistently but that was the general idea. Got it from a guy I know who uses to compete. Altho it was 20 years ago like you said lol
What I was doing seemed to be working ok for me, but not that it couldn’t have been better. What would you suggest doing differently?
Im 6’2 , 250-260 in the pic. I dont think i have ever eaten more than 200-250g of protein. I have tried 150 i have tried 300, didnt ever see any difference.
I always keep my eating very similar.
And the best advice i can give u is dont cycle. Cycling is also a concept thats like 25 years old and makes very little sense.
What would a cruise diet look like? Goals are to stay lean and keep as much muscle as possible
Thanks. I’ll research it and consider it. If you’re generally around 250 grams of protein are you keeping carbs about the same and low fat? 40/40/20?
No i dont believe that macros matter. People eat such different diets naturally all around the globe. I have never seen anyone be able to determine ones diet based on the way he looks, so i dont believe it matters.
Let me ask you, why are you against cycling? It sounds like a good cardio workout to me, doesn’t it?
good cardio workout
https://www.cyclinganalytics.com/blog/2018/06/how-does-your-cycling-power-output-compare
Excellent. Just be careful with long term risks of arrythmia and wear and tear of heart’s electrical system if you really want to push it. I know…uncommon for most.
Hmm, interesting. Makes me think. Need to read more carefully, I’ve only run my eyes over it so far.