Possible Tren Gyno

i think im getting tren related gyno. i know the symptoms but im not sure how to “feel” it. the only symptom i have so far is itchy nipples, as of last night. im hoping its paranoia and possibily the itch isnt from gyno but rather the benzoyl peroxide i put on my chest to prevent acne. however i doubt it even touched my nipples, but they do look kind of dry. ive applied a moistorizer to my nipples and if this is the case, by tommorow they should no longer be itchy.

so far ive only put about 170-180mg of tren ace in me, and about 300mg of prop and cyp.

i bumped adex from .25mg to 1mg and my b6 from 250mg to 500mg. i stopped my cycle completly, and plan to resume when i feel the nips are good.

how long do i wait after the nipples are 100% to resume the cycle?

ive read that letro can help with tren gyno, this true?
advice is very much appreciated!

thx,
juicy.

I don’t think adex or clo/nolva will do it because if it’s from tren then it would be prolactin-gyno, which supposedly enlarges your the areola of your nipples and causes them to lactate. This is different from estrogen gyno because there are no lumps underneath to feel for.

Also, cabergoline is supposed to be the antagonist that people use to combat prolactin-gyno. I have no idea if this is safe or what.

Also, get a second opinion because I’ve never had this problem and my info could be wrong, though I don’t think so.

[quote]juicy wrote:
i think im getting tren related gyno. i know the symptoms but im not sure how to “feel” it. the only symptom i have so far is itchy nipples, as of last night. im hoping its paranoia and possibily the itch isnt from gyno but rather the benzoyl peroxide i put on my chest to prevent acne. however i doubt it even touched my nipples, but they do look kind of dry. ive applied a moistorizer to my nipples and if this is the case, by tommorow they should no longer be itchy.

so far ive only put about 170-180mg of tren ace in me, and about 300mg of prop and cyp.

i bumped adex from .25mg to 1mg and my b6 from 250mg to 500mg. i stopped my cycle completly, and plan to resume when i feel the nips are good.

how long do i wait after the nipples are 100% to resume the cycle?

ive read that letro can help with tren gyno, this true?
advice is very much appreciated!

thx,
juicy.[/quote]

Don’t stop your cycle completely. Drop the tren for a few days and see if symptoms subside. In the meantime, if you can get some cabergoline it should take care of any tren related gyno.

However, are you sure you are not just being paranoid? Sounds like you’ve only done, what, 2 or 3 injections. That sounds like a very short time for that kind of gyno to arise.

its definatly not me being paranoid. however it feels much better now, no longer itchy and now only 1 nipple is some-what sensative but even that got alot better. im sure by tommorow it will be good.

i was paranoid earlier and after checking a million times i convinced myself there was a lump - which there isnt.

and yeah, it was my second shot into the cycle, who the hell gets gyno symptons that early???

anyways thx for the reply but im no longer worried about this. how ever, is there a rule of thumb for how long i should wait after my nipples are 100% to resume cycle?

When using short esters like ace and prop it is possible to get gyno rather quickly. I would say that the tren is the culprit. Prolactin levels can be controlled by B-6, but I have only heard of large doses of B-6 being used. IMHO 250mg/day is not enough, however some people have had bad sides from too much B-6, i.e. headaches. I would continue with the prop and then add in the tren again once you get some caber or bromo. Letro as far as I know will not help prolactin induced gyno. Even if it did, running letro for an entire cycle would be ill advised.

You should of never stopped. Take the proper drugs to combat the problem and contine along.

I get a lump on the right side, but it isn’t noticable untill I am really lean, and at that point I am not on tren ACE anymore so it will have shrunk down again.

I don’t worry at all about it.

[quote]2thepain wrote:
When using short esters like ace and prop it is possible to get gyno rather quickly. I would say that the tren is the culprit. Prolactin levels can be controlled by B-6, but I have only heard of large doses of B-6 being used. IMHO 250mg/day is not enough, however some people have had bad sides from too much B-6, i.e. headaches. I would continue with the prop and then add in the tren again once you get some caber or bromo. Letro as far as I know will not help prolactin induced gyno. Even if it did, running letro for an entire cycle would be ill advised.

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      I can vouch for this completely and not too long ago as you guys might remember. Here's a specific, I got the symptom after 3 shots of the testphenylprop/mast mix. At around 1200mg/week. Bam I got it quick, by the fourth day I'm showering and brushing some soap past the nips and whoa, these fuckers hurt a little bit, ...and they're hard too, wtf??!!!! By then I had a miriad of other more serious problems as well, but within almost a week or a week and a half, I got on the nolva at a high dose first. 

Pre-attack dose of about 80mg, then I rolled at 60mg/day then 40 and so on… But that was completely unexpected from everyone, including me. Just goes to show like 2the is saying, with the fast esters, look out if you’re a noob like me, or just doing a fast one for the first time or whatever the case.

       Anywho I got rid of it and like lil guy told me once, it's just not that big of a deal if it didn't "get" you the first time. You just keep it in check and you're fine. For me this last cycle I did, it came back just slightly, and was kept from interfering this time with my adex. Anyway, I"m rambling and hijacking probably by now, sorry. 

But not to make light of it, I’m just happy I didn’t get like some permanent tissue coned out look or something noticeable. My jugs look exactly the same as before, the nips will just tend to be hard more often when on before ancillaries kick in and handle the biz. Other than that there’s no strange look to them besides being a bit fat and out of shape for me at the moment…

                  Good luck,

A lot of smart guys here to help you for sure.

                    ToneBone

[quote]Prisoner wrote:
I get a lump on the right side, but it isn’t noticable untill I am really lean, and at that point I am not on tren ACE anymore so it will have shrunk down again.

I don’t worry at all about it.[/quote]

       Killer post. Not many people feel comfortable enough to talk about this shit usually, too bad, cause it's not always a sad story, and if you know what to do, you're in good shape. 

Great to see you share something like that Prisoner, cause I can say, when you’re going through it, it can be really depressing wondering/not knowing wtf is gonna happen!!!
Glad that’s all you have to worry about too.
Still looking great man.

                     ToneBone

can anyone pm to a research site that sells caber or bromo reasonably cheaper?

[quote]Prisoner wrote:
I get a lump on the right side, but it isn’t noticable untill I am really lean, and at that point I am not on tren ACE anymore so it will have shrunk down again.

I don’t worry at all about it.[/quote]

how long after ace does it go away for you? lets say i was to continue my tren when my nipple is 100%, and lets assume i was to go tru the same gyno process, would the nipple grow without me feeling it or would i go through the whole process again and feel it grow - itchy and sensative nipples.

not sure if that makes any sense but what im asking is does tren related gyno grow without feeling any of the symptoms? or will i always feel the symptoms as it grows?

thx.

[quote]juicy wrote:
can anyone pm to a research site that sells caber or bromo reasonably cheaper?[/quote]

I’m looking around now and noticed caber is frickin expensive as well. I would appreciate a PM, too, if anyone cares to shoot me a quick one.

[quote]juicy wrote:
Prisoner wrote:
I get a lump on the right side, but it isn’t noticable untill I am really lean, and at that point I am not on tren ACE anymore so it will have shrunk down again.

I don’t worry at all about it.

how long after ace does it go away for you? lets say i was to continue my tren when my nipple is 100%, and lets assume i was to go tru the same gyno process, would the nipple grow without me feeling it or would i go through the whole process again and feel it grow - itchy and sensative nipples.

not sure if that makes any sense but what im asking is does tren related gyno grow without feeling any of the symptoms? or will i always feel the symptoms as it grows?

thx.[/quote]

Good question. I’ll start my first run of tren soon and tren gyno is the only thing I am now worried about. For you guys with experience, is there a different “feel” to the tren gyno? I would love to hear more detailed experiences of people to whom it’s happened.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Good question. I’ll start my first run of tren soon and tren gyno is the only thing I am now worried about. For you guys with experience, is there a different “feel” to the tren gyno? I would love to hear more detailed experiences of people to whom it’s happened.
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ive never got gyno from estrogen so i cant compare the two. with tren you will notice your nipple getting itchy, then a few hours later you get a tingling fealing under the nipple, as if you feal it growing. Then you wake up and your nip(s) are very sensative and dont like to be touched by anything; hands, shirt, jacket, etc. atleast this is how it happened to me.

if your curious i started feeling the sides at about 11pm - both nipps were itchy at this point and this is when i bumped up my b6. i went to bed around 2-3am and now i got the tingling fealing under 1 nipple and the other was still itchy. woke up in the morning and it was very sensative. the sides went away pretty much that night, and today its no longer sensative.

Luckily i made the right decision to run tren ace, and the sides left rather fast.

tren gyno makes your nipple bigger whereas estrogen gyno gives you lumps under your nipple. atleast this is what ive been informed.

1 of my nipple is slightly bigger then the other, even if it was never to go away, it wouldn’t bother me because it isnt bad at all no one could tell the difference. It even took me a while of checking back and forth to see the difference. seriously, its like a sand grain bigger, but its not something i want to aggravate.