What’s going on people, new to the site, have just been a long time lurker… First off I just want to say I haven’t ever used & am still doing research on it all. Here are a few of my stats…
Age: 22
Height: 6’5
Weight: 255lbs (was originally 170 at my height)
Bodyfat: 13-15%? (Never measured)
First question: Now if I was to plan a cycle, what do you guys think of this for a first? Any suggestions tweaks would be highly appreciated.
Here’s the cycle I was looking at:
10 weeks 600mg test E split into two pins per week.
1-4 dbol kick starter 30mg Ed
1-10 arimidex 0.25 Ed
pct
13-17 Nolva 40/40/20/20, Clomid 100/50/50/50
Question 2: Throughout the research I’ve been doing, the reoccurring theme seems to be that a lot of guys experience erectile dysfunction/low libido even after a proper pct. (Which would make it not worth it to me)
If so how common is this??
Would love to hear from some knowledgable veteran users. Thanks
if you do your PCT properly you’ll (probably) have nothing to worry about. Most PCT horror stories are from idiots that use those stupid god damn over the counter things like Erase or hcgenerate. A lot of guys just jump in to a cycle without considering things like an AI so when their cycle is done their E is through the roof, then they need to try and fix that which is a massive pain in the arse (or dick, I suppose).
There’s always a risk of permanent damage to your HPTA from a steroid cycle. It is what it is, but the likelihood of it happening is pretty tiny. A slight dip in libido is to be expected during PCT, but from a sensibly dosed cycle such as yours it shouldn’t be anything to worry about.
Your cycle looks good by the way, but keep taking your AI in the two weeks between your last pin and the start of your PCT. Taper down in the second week before PCT (so if you are doing every day dosing, switch to eod) then stop a day or two before you start SERMs.
Cycle looks great and well thought. Now on to the darker side. Yogi and the majority of the guys will be fine. I how ever after my first cycle mind you I was only 17 at the time was left completely shut down. Have been on try since I was 19 because of it. Shit happens. As it has been said before steroids are not a fad or something you do to look good or bigger for a few days. If your not willing to to risk complete shut down, be on for life, and a 100 other possibilities such as testicle atrophy, hair loss, hair gain, cholesterol, BP problems, erectile problems and the list goes on then don’t do it. If your not looking to compete and be the best you can possibly be why even risk it.
Oh and its illegal and could lead jail time and fines or both.
Ah that’s what has me thinking this through very seriously. (Knew I’d get some honest answers here). Now on your first cycle, was a proper pct used or just not using the right one is what caused your permanent shutdown?
I used Nolva and clomid with a standard protocol. Had the worse reaction to clomid of any drug I ever had. I honestly say I had low test naturally and probably would have been put on TRT any way and the drugs just finished it off. But, if that’s not the case the honest culprit probably would have been because I was at such a young age to start.
Taper off the serms don’t just stop at the end of 4 weeks. Some can experience an estrogen rebound which then makes them feel like shit after a proper pct.
[quote]BUDs wrote:
Taper off the serms don’t just stop at the end of 4 weeks. Some can experience an estrogen rebound which then makes them feel like shit after a proper pct.
IME I would do this
Clomid 100/50/50/50/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20/10/10[/quote]
why do you suggest the taper, and the dosage that goes along with it?
the half-life of clomid and nolva is almost a week… and nolva has been shown to block the ER in breast tissue in men at 1 mg/day…
[quote]IronGiant_ wrote:
Ah that’s what has me thinking this through very seriously. (Knew I’d get some honest answers here). Now on your first cycle, was a proper pct used or just not using the right one is what caused your permanent shutdown?[/quote]
