I wonder what’s going to happen now with Coptic Christians and in general Egyptians now that Pope Shenouda III is dead since he was such a stalwart in keeping relative peace between Christians and Moslems in Egypt.
I’ve never understood exactly how there can be more than one successor to Peter. Nothing against this man.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I’ve never understood exactly how there can be more than one successor to Peter. Nothing against this man.[/quote]
I dont either.
I think the CC should give up the papacy.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I’ve never understood exactly how there can be more than one successor to Peter. Nothing against this man.[/quote]
He’s not the successor of Peter. Why would you think he is?
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I’ve never understood exactly how there can be more than one successor to Peter. Nothing against this man.[/quote]
He’s not the successor of Peter. Why would you think he is?[/quote]Because that’s what your pope is supposed to be, along with the alleged to be the vicar of Christ. I’m no expert on orthodoxy, but I have a feeling your going to say something along the lines of their being several popes with yours being their head or something.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I’ve never understood exactly how there can be more than one successor to Peter. Nothing against this man.[/quote]
He’s not the successor of Peter. Why would you think he is?[/quote]Because that’s what your pope is supposed to be, along with the alleged to be the vicar of Christ. I’m no expert on orthodoxy, but I have a feeling your going to say something along the lines of their being several popes with yours being their head or something.
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This term “Pope” is based on the Latin and Greek word for “father,” which is pater. It’s pronounced and spelled a little differently in the two langauges, but that’s the term.
Based on the example of the apostles, who in their writings describe themselves as the spiritual fathers of those in their flocks, who they also describe as their children (St. Paul and St. John do this repeatedly), it has been natural for the term “father” to be applied to Christian leaders, with due reverence for the unique Fatherhood of God.
Today in many parts of the world, priests are often called “Father,” but in early times it was common to use this title for higher religious leaders, which is how the bishop of Rome became called “pope” in the first place. In this case the term “pope” does not mean “successor of St. Peter.” Alexandria is known as the see of St. Mark, who founded it, and the Coptic pope is regarded as the successor of St. Mark. So, Pope Shenouda is the successor of St. Mark.
Anyway, a great spiritual man has fallen-asleep.
I feel very sorry for the Copts. Egypt 50 years ago was far more heterogenous and mixed than it was today. What is often forgotten is the huge diaspora of Jews in the Middle East in Egypt Jordan Iraq (where they had been noted in records since 600BC, 1200 years before Islam) - all gone. The same is true for Europe. Pre WWI, there were Germans as far afield as Romania and the Ukraine, and native Greeks in Turkey and vice versa. All gone, we’ve become ethnically far more homogenous
As you were…
[quote]Bambi wrote:
I feel very sorry for the Copts. Egypt 50 years ago was far more heterogenous and mixed than it was today. What is often forgotten is the huge diaspora of Jews in the Middle East in Egypt Jordan Iraq (where they had been noted in records since 600BC, 1200 years before Islam) - all gone. The same is true for Europe. Pre WWI, there were Germans as far afield as Romania and the Ukraine, and native Greeks in Turkey and vice versa. All gone, we’ve become ethnically far more homogenous
As you were…[/quote]
Mostly my sentiments.