Political Correctness

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
So, in this PC world we live in, what are we now supposed to do? Make exceptions & excuses??!![/quote]

Basically, the way I view political correctness is an obligation to call evil, good and call good, evil.
When you boil it down that’s what you are getting.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
So, in this PC world we live in, what are we now supposed to do? Make exceptions & excuses??!![/quote]

Basically, the way I view political correctness is an obligation to call evil, good and call good, evil.
When you boil it down that’s what you are getting.[/quote]

That is a pretty good definition. I always say that the first victim of political correctness is the truth.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
So, in this PC world we live in, what are we now supposed to do? Make exceptions & excuses??!![/quote]

Basically, the way I view political correctness is an obligation to call evil, good and call good, evil.
When you boil it down that’s what you are getting.[/quote]

That is a pretty good definition. I always say that the first victim of political correctness is the truth. [/quote]

Opeth7opeth provided a brilliant quote by Chesterton in the Planned Parenthood thread. It was specifically about eugenists, but it applies to any proponent of political correctness.

“Most Eugenists are Euphemists. I mean merely that short words startle them, while long words soothe them. And they are utterly incapable of translating the one into the other, however obviously they mean the same thing. Say to them “The persuasive and even coercive powers of the citizen should enable him to make sure that the burden of longevity in the previous generation does not become disproportionate and intolerable, especially to the females”; say this to them and they will sway slightly to and fro like babies sent to sleep in cradles. Say to them “Murder your mother,” and they sit up quite suddenly. Yet the two sentences, in cold logic, are exactly the same. Say to them “It is not improbable that a period may arrive when the narrow if once useful distinction between the anthropoid homo and the other animals, which has been modified on so many moral points, may be modified also even in regard to the important question of the extension of human diet”; say this to them, and beauty born of murmuring sound will pass into their face. But say to them, in a simple, manly, hearty way “Let’s eat a man!” and their surprise is quite surprising. Yet the sentences say just the same thing.”

PC is, after all, about not offending anybody.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

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LOL

Turns out Jared was a POS pedophile after all ! !

SJW’s and the Government take pervert off streets!

Ashley Madison hack points to those working at the White House.

They included workers at more than two dozen Obama administration agencies, including the departments of State, Defense, Justice, Energy, Treasury, Transportation and Homeland Security. Others came from House or Senate computer networks.

Remember this the next time you hear about the Republican war on women…

http://news.yahoo.com/evidence-infidelities-spreads-online-wake-hack-144026220.html#

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Ashley Madison hack points to those working at the White House.

They included workers at more than two dozen Obama administration agencies, including the departments of State, Defense, Justice, Energy, Treasury, Transportation and Homeland Security. Others came from House or Senate computer networks.

Remember this the next time you hear about the Republican war on women…

http://news.yahoo.com/evidence-infidelities-spreads-online-wake-hack-144026220.html#[/quote]

Max:

PLEASE tell me you’re not making this a Right/Left; Dem/GOP issue?

This would be worse than the fact that Bill Cosby’s issues were somehow “leftist” in nature. ( I STILL don’t understand that one…)

Mufasa

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Turns out Jared was a POS pedophile after all ! !

http://fox59.com/2015/08/18/former-subway-spokesman-jared-fogle-to-plead-guilty-to-child-pornography-charges/[/quote]

Yep, I think we now have enough evidence to make that judgement. Bet he’s going to get fat again now.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Ashley Madison hack points to those working at the White House.

They included workers at more than two dozen Obama administration agencies, including the departments of State, Defense, Justice, Energy, Treasury, Transportation and Homeland Security. Others came from House or Senate computer networks.

Remember this the next time you hear about the Republican war on women…

http://news.yahoo.com/evidence-infidelities-spreads-online-wake-hack-144026220.html#[/quote]

Well, I am against the hack, first and foremost. While it may be against a cheating website this time, it can be against anybody next. These crimes are going up and they need to be stopped and punished to the fullest extent possible. Just because something is vulnerable, does not give somebody the right to do it. Maybe these people should not be on ‘Ashley Madison’, but these criminals do not have the right to break into private businesses and steal their information.
Besides, cheaters always get caught, always.

On a different note, why can’t people just be happy with what they have? Yeah, it’s the same person every time, that’s what marriage is, the same person. If you aren’t getting all the sex you want, jack-off. If that doesn’t fix it you need to check yourself.
If the person you are married to is that bad, do everybody a favor and end it before you decide to start bumpin’ uglies with somebody strange. It will save everybody a lot of trouble and misery.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Ashley Madison hack points to those working at the White House.

They included workers at more than two dozen Obama administration agencies, including the departments of State, Defense, Justice, Energy, Treasury, Transportation and Homeland Security. Others came from House or Senate computer networks.

Remember this the next time you hear about the Republican war on women…

http://news.yahoo.com/evidence-infidelities-spreads-online-wake-hack-144026220.html#[/quote]

Max:

PLEASE tell me you’re not making this a Right/Left; Dem/GOP issue?

This would be worse than the fact that Bill Cosby’s issues were somehow “leftist” in nature. ( I STILL don’t understand that one…)

Mufasa
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Dems use any and all ways to invent a war on women, so I expect them to uphold themselves to the highest standards, and this is a Democratic Administration currently in the White House. The most transparent administration ever should not have let this happen in the first place.

IMO, the Cosby issue happened because Bill spoke out against Obama, and Obama is one vindictive guy if there ever was one. There is no shortage of examples as to how Obama’s spitefulness.

I recently heard a theory about how the whole Hillary server issue came about, another leak from the Obama Administration. It wouldn’t be hard to believe or even prove if you look hard enough.

Epic rant against Black Lives Matters by Ferguson Mother.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

Epic rant against Black Lives Matters by Ferguson Mother.

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There would be fewer problems if more parents were like this mother.

Political correctness at its best right here. The tweet isn’t offensive to me, and I think its a fair comparison to the reality of what is happening in the Middle East. Yes, extremists are only a minority, but so were the Nazis. I don’t think the Middle East has the infrastructure to become a world power like Germany, but ISIS is doing similiar horrible acts against anyone who doesn’t step inline with them.

[quote]Drew1411 wrote:

Political correctness at its best right here. The tweet isn’t offensive to me, and I think its a fair comparison to the reality of what is happening in the Middle East. Yes, extremists are only a minority, but so were the Nazis. I don’t think the Middle East has the infrastructure to become a world power like Germany, but ISIS is doing similiar horrible acts against anyone who doesn’t step inline with them.[/quote]

It’s all about presentation, man. Posting something with an image of Hitler, a swastika, or anything related to Naziism is a social “no-no.” Curt should have known better than that. As far as his content, if factual, he was fine to a degree. I’m sure many people wouldn’t have batted much of an eye if it was a picture of a terrorist. But maybe that’s just part of the time we live in. In either case, the guy is a public figure, albeit limited to the sports world. But still, just a dumb move on his part. Keep that shit to yourself, certainly if you’re on the active books for ESPN.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Ashley Madison hack points to those working at the White House.

They included workers at more than two dozen Obama administration agencies, including the departments of State, Defense, Justice, Energy, Treasury, Transportation and Homeland Security. Others came from House or Senate computer networks.

Remember this the next time you hear about the Republican war on women…

http://news.yahoo.com/evidence-infidelities-spreads-online-wake-hack-144026220.html#[/quote]

Max:

PLEASE tell me you’re not making this a Right/Left; Dem/GOP issue?

This would be worse than the fact that Bill Cosby’s issues were somehow “leftist” in nature. ( I STILL don’t understand that one…)

Mufasa
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Dems use any and all ways to invent a war on women, so I expect them to uphold themselves to the highest standards, and this is a Democratic Administration currently in the White House. The most transparent administration ever should not have let this happen in the first place.

IMO, the Cosby issue happened because Bill spoke out against Obama, and Obama is one vindictive guy if there ever was one. There is no shortage of examples as to how Obama’s spitefulness.

I recently heard a theory about how the whole Hillary server issue came about, another leak from the Obama Administration. It wouldn’t be hard to believe or even prove if you look hard enough. [/quote]

You are spot on Max.

Some people live in la la land when it comes to Obama.

Somehow they want to forget that he’s a Sal Alinsky disciple who was a left wing rabble rousing “community organizer”. Furthermore, Al Sharpton has been to the White House almost 100 times in 6 1/2 years. What self respecting President would invite scum like that to the White House?

And what about Obama using the IRS to get his right wing political enemies? Do you think Lois Lerner pleaded the 5th to only protect herself? Ha! Lastly Obama is a Chicago bare knuckles politician and they will do and say anything to win, and to keep power. Obama’s vindictiveness puts Nixon’s to shame.

But don’t waste your time trying to convince those who refuse to open their eyes. Those are the folks that actually bought into the “hope and change” mantra which was stuffed down the throats of all of the feeble minded in 2008.

[quote]HeyWaj10 wrote:

[quote]Drew1411 wrote:

Political correctness at its best right here. The tweet isn’t offensive to me, and I think its a fair comparison to the reality of what is happening in the Middle East. Yes, extremists are only a minority, but so were the Nazis. I don’t think the Middle East has the infrastructure to become a world power like Germany, but ISIS is doing similiar horrible acts against anyone who doesn’t step inline with them.[/quote]

It’s all about presentation, man. Posting something with an image of Hitler, a swastika, or anything related to Naziism is a social “no-no.” Curt should have known better than that. As far as his content, if factual, he was fine to a degree. I’m sure many people wouldn’t have batted much of an eye if it was a picture of a terrorist. But maybe that’s just part of the time we live in. In either case, the guy is a public figure, albeit limited to the sports world. But still, just a dumb move on his part. Keep that shit to yourself, certainly if you’re on the active books for ESPN.[/quote]

We used to have something called “Freedom of speech” before the left wing PC crowd took over. Your right to make your point was far more important than someone else’s right not to be offended. The left has turned that around.

He had every right to post a picture of Hitler and make the comparison that he did.

How can we win a war against any given entity when we cannot even say the entity’s name?

This is complete madness.

[quote]HeyWaj10 wrote:

[quote]Drew1411 wrote:

Political correctness at its best right here. The tweet isn’t offensive to me, and I think its a fair comparison to the reality of what is happening in the Middle East. Yes, extremists are only a minority, but so were the Nazis. I don’t think the Middle East has the infrastructure to become a world power like Germany, but ISIS is doing similiar horrible acts against anyone who doesn’t step inline with them.[/quote]

It’s all about presentation, man. Posting something with an image of Hitler, a swastika, or anything related to Naziism is a social “no-no.” Curt should have known better than that. As far as his content, if factual, he was fine to a degree. I’m sure many people wouldn’t have batted much of an eye if it was a picture of a terrorist. But maybe that’s just part of the time we live in. In either case, the guy is a public figure, albeit limited to the sports world. But still, just a dumb move on his part. Keep that shit to yourself, certainly if you’re on the active books for ESPN.[/quote]

I’m not sure if I understand what you mean by social no-no. If he was lying or making a harsh comment, I understand, but he presented facts (as far as I know, I have not fact checked the exact percentage). What is the dumb move? It was his personal twitter account, is he only allowed to say those facts in a private setting?

His company, ESPN, has every right to fire him as they are a private company. I don’t agree with their reaction as I don’t think his statement was offensive.

edit correction: they did not fire him, they suspended him.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

We used to have something called “Freedom of speech” before the left wing PC crowd took over. Your right to make your point was far more important than someone else’s right not to be offended. The left has turned that around.

He had every right to post a picture of Hitler and make the comparison that he did.

How can we win a war against any given entity when we cannot even say the entity’s name?

This is complete madness.[/quote]

Perhaps I’m a bit marred by my wife over time, who is easily offended, so I take a side of caution when saying things. However, I think images have a far stronger impact on people’s gut reactions than words. Curt’s posting hits on that. The war with Nazi Germany is long since over, but the images from that war still have a very profound effect on people, and can be very jarring. Like I said, I don’t think Curt’s content (if accurate) was anything to be upset about. But the image he chose to use can have a serious effect on some.

This isn’t me saying he has no right to post what he wants to post, nor should that right be taken away or silenced. I just think he could have made the post without the image. Personal opinion on that here.