Police Shooting of Sonya Massey

That’s one of the few things I agree with you on.

No, it couldn’t. You can have different schools of thought and opinions in most fields but not gender studies or women’s studies. They promote an ideology over intellectual honesty and freedom. They are also among the easiest majors to get a degree in.

I don’t take any joy in being correct in my use of force takes. A sad situation for everyone involved, but I believe the jury got it right.

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I’m with two jar slave here.

I’m not watching this vid. But my take is cops show up to 911 call, see no intruders. Leave, and if the woman seems whacko by harassing the cops, call the social worker. That’s My opinion. Srs.

Cops should not do anything to escalate and sometimes just their whole way of digging for more, triggers people.

of course I realize there are bigger powers there and it’s why I don’t agree with the system. I might be wrong but some police forces are under the authority of politicians and IMO that is NOT protect and serve. Again I ain’t no anarchist, but, the gub needs srs limits. I don’t see that happening though unfortunately, the people still feel they need them for too much.

Terribly tragic… dude should’ve just created space and distance. Police are an absolute necessity but our roles need to be completely re-examined

The amount of pressure to make arrests to appease uninformed people leads to outcomes like this.

The public needs to get involved but never will unless it’s a protest of a justified killing.

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That and when the “public” says anything post event that goes against the police grain they’re shouted down as fringe extremists. Even staunch conservatives. Ironically.

Many…in fact too many are fringe extremist though… You have to take into account most of these people are very uninformed regarding UOF parameters. they can have an opinion but they shouldn’t be taken seriously… be like me offering coaching advice to Tony LaRussa.

I’d like to see better relations between us and the public but nobody wants to give up any ground. Departments really should educate the public more on actual case law and procedures. Even then you’ll still have the AcAb rejects and people that think police are always wrong no matter the circumstances

What would you like to see or know from someone with first hand experience?

People get their ideas about how violence is going to go from movies, TV, and video games. I haven’t worked security in years but I still get people who want me to intervene in their personal disputes with current staff. A stripper who started plenty of fights herself was mad that I didn’t side with her friend whose arms got bruised when one of the doormen peeled her off the pregnant gal she attacked, as if the bruises were evidence of wrongdoing. I explained that they were evidence that reasonable force was used, i.e. simply grabbing her and not hitting her. I prefer controlling someone at the hips, but I wasn’t there to see how it all went down.

I know plenty of BJJ guys who know all about hand-to-hand violence but are still completely clueless about lethal force law. I think that has more to do with being suckers for media narratives surrounding cases like Trayvon Martin, hands-up-don’t shoot guy, George Floyd, etc. I was actually surprised that this case didn’t see more media attention, as it seemed a lot clearer cut than any of the ones I mentioned above and the racial optics were the right combination to spin up the outrage machine.

My aunt and uncle, both retired physicians and extremely intelligent, almost seem as though they don’t want to understand lethal force law at all. My uncle didn’t seem to grasp the idea that even if a dumbass like George Zimmerman is following you around in a neighborhood, you don’t have the right to beat the hell out of him, making him justified in defending himself with lethal force.

Here in Lewiston, Maine, we’re currently down to four candidates for our next police chief and a whole lot of public input has come in the form of mostly women who make vague pleas for vague actions that they can’t specifically define, basically amounting to a kum bay ya chant to signal their empathy and compassion.

I get that the city wants better public relations, but it’s an uphill battle when the political activists are ACAB people who relentlessly lie and know fuck all about responding to violence. I don’t think the outrage machine will ever go away, as it feels too good for all of the people who get to pretend that they are morally pure while men with guns keep them safe.

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We’re in the age of emotionalism not objective reality.

I’ve never seen an ACAB type that wasn’t a genetic mutant

You can find some pretty rugged ACAB people at certain mats in Portland, Maine and even Lewiston. A well-known Democratic Socialist activist who runs the Maine Beacon’s podcast trains BJJ here in town. They aren’t all complete pussies.

Likely a few that aren’t but they’re still low iq cretins… it’s the least edgy thing one can say in 2025. Basic bitch

We’ve got an Antifa Super Soldier ACAB guy currently running for Senate here in Maine. Graham Platner is an actual combat vet training actual ACAB Socialists in the Maine Socialist Rifle Association, currently trying to downplay all of his dumbassery on reddit and his Nazi tattoo he had for almost 20 years.

It looks like it’s working. All of the emotionalists love the guy.

My comment is primarily from conversations on this site. I agree with your stance here. Police do have a tough job, but they are public servants and need to be transparent and accountable to the public.

100%… what concerns me is that most people are completely clueless regarding police stuff.

I do the All Cops Are Brave thing and it really riles those rejects up