holy… profile pics.
[quote]Stuey wrote:
6.3
The double standard persists…[/quote]
Christ, cry about it.
A good looking girl posts her pictures on a site called, “Testosterone Nation” and you expect her to be flamed.
Fuck it, she looks better than most girls out there, so i give her props anyway.
Mikey likes it.
So, there is this gal on here that is pretty much a troll, her name is stellargirl. I am banging her. She is a f’kucking smoking hottie and resembles this gal’s physique. Put some high-heeled see-through stripper shoes on her and another pair of boy shorts and some nipple clamps and she would be a Spearmint Rhino. Her ‘leg development’ is great. Feminine, NO FAT, but not extremely lean like my johnson. TBSgirl, hit a brutha up if you want to make it a threeway.
You look the same as before.
[quote]TBSgirl wrote:
Thank you for the support! Its great to know that there is a group of ppl I can relate to with the same passion for training and lifting.
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So there are a group of people on T-Nation, who OCCASIONALLY lift, have an OVER-INFLATED opinion of their physique and are exhibitionists!?
Lady, you are a dilettante!
You’re also lackadaisical. You seem to lack the discipline, and dedication…not to mention the all important trait of consistency to make it in Figure.
May I suggest Pilates?..or Yoga?
*My reply contains no gender bias.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Stuey wrote:
6.3
The double standard persists…
Christ, cry about it.
A good looking girl posts her pictures on a site called, “Testosterone Nation” and you expect her to be flamed.
Fuck it, she looks better than most girls out there, so i give her props anyway.[/quote]
It’s not Hot or Not is it…
She’s attractive but barely looks as if she works out, hardly T-Nation 6.3 material. If she were a guy she would be flamed, not patted on the back for looking slightly better than most of the general population. As if that’s hard these days…
Is that hard for you to understand? Try thinking with something other than your penis.
[quote]pete cell wrote:
TBSgirl wrote:
Thank you for the support! Its great to know that there is a group of ppl I can relate to with the same passion for training and lifting.
So there are a group of people on T-Nation, who OCCASIONALLY lift, have an OVER-INFLATED opinion of their physique and are exhibitionists!?
Lady, you are a dilettante!
You’re also lackadaisical. You seem to lack the discipline, and dedication…not to mention the all important trait of consistency to make it in Figure.
May I suggest Pilates?..or Yoga?
*My reply contains no gender bias.[/quote]
a lot of hate. i don’t really know where you would get the idea that she is “lackadaisical”, or lacks discipline and dedication. i mean its one thing to bash on the physique… but you don’t have to question EVERYTHING. you can’t know what her level of dedication is.
TBSgirl, good luck in whatever you try to do!
[quote]kkeane wrote:
pete cell wrote:
TBSgirl wrote:
Thank you for the support! Its great to know that there is a group of ppl I can relate to with the same passion for training and lifting.
So there are a group of people on T-Nation, who OCCASIONALLY lift, have an OVER-INFLATED opinion of their physique and are exhibitionists!?
Lady, you are a dilettante!
You’re also lackadaisical. You seem to lack the discipline, and dedication…not to mention the all important trait of consistency to make it in Figure.
May I suggest Pilates?..or Yoga?
*My reply contains no gender bias.
a lot of hate. i don’t really know where you would get the idea that she is “lackadaisical”, or lacks discipline and dedication. i mean its one thing to bash on the physique… but you don’t have to question EVERYTHING. you can’t know what her level of dedication is.
TBSgirl, good luck in whatever you try to do!
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You mean…there’s no way we could get the idea that [quote]she is “lackadaisical”, or lacks discipline and dedication[/quote] other than the fact that she says she’s [quote]been off training hardcore for a few months[/quote] (implying, of course, that she was ON [quote]hardcore training[/quote] at some point) yet shows no real discernible progress between her current pic and the summer '05 one in her profile?
How could you have missed that? She has 199 profile views at this point; are you the one T-Nation guy that didn’t investigate for further pics?
So, first, I gave you a 3. You have a physique that is pretty common on most college campuses, and you are miles and miles from where you need to be in terms of development in order to enter a show.
Then, I subtracted another point simply because you aren’t showing any progress. At all. You know what the definition of insanity is?
So I rated you a 2. Like it matters, keep up the “good” work. You’re rating will stay where it is simply because you’re a chick.
I’d be proud to go to the gym with you.
[quote]conner wrote:
kkeane wrote:
pete cell wrote:
TBSgirl wrote:
Thank you for the support! Its great to know that there is a group of ppl I can relate to with the same passion for training and lifting.
So there are a group of people on T-Nation, who OCCASIONALLY lift, have an OVER-INFLATED opinion of their physique and are exhibitionists!?
Lady, you are a dilettante!
You’re also lackadaisical. You seem to lack the discipline, and dedication…not to mention the all important trait of consistency to make it in Figure.
May I suggest Pilates?..or Yoga?
*My reply contains no gender bias.
a lot of hate. i don’t really know where you would get the idea that she is “lackadaisical”, or lacks discipline and dedication. i mean its one thing to bash on the physique… but you don’t have to question EVERYTHING. you can’t know what her level of dedication is.
TBSgirl, good luck in whatever you try to do!
You mean…there’s no way we could get the idea that she is “lackadaisical”, or lacks discipline and dedication other than the fact that she says she’s been off training hardcore for a few months (implying, of course, that she was ON hardcore training at some point) yet shows no real discernible progress between her current pic and the summer '05 one in her profile?
How could you have missed that? She has 199 profile views at this point; are you the one T-Nation guy that didn’t investigate for further pics?
So, first, I gave you a 3. You have a physique that is pretty common on most college campuses, and you are miles and miles from where you need to be in terms of development in order to enter a show.
Then, I subtracted another point simply because you aren’t showing any progress. At all. You know what the definition of insanity is?
So I rated you a 2. Like it matters, keep up the “good” work. You’re rating will stay where it is simply because you’re a chick.[/quote]
how the fuck can you assume that its because she lacks dedication or discipline? granted this could be what is wrong but all I am saying is, why attack her for these things when we really have no idea that that is her problem.
If she is miles and miles away from doing a show, it just means she might need that much advice and help getting there…
TC: LOL
Lol nice Big Cheese pose. What kind of raw, organic foods are you eating?
[quote]kkeane wrote:
how the fuck can you assume that its because she lacks dedication or discipline? granted this could be what is wrong but all I am saying is, why attack her for these things when we really have no idea that that is her problem.
If she is miles and miles away from doing a show, it just means she might need that much advice and help getting there…
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Regardless of the why, if her male equivalent posted a pic after a long layoff from working out and asked for advice and a nifty little rating, he would get flamed and get rated a 2.
I agree that the double standard is evident here. She has an average physique for someone who isn’t sedentary. I don’t see any hypertrophy, or muscular definition.
She looks like a cardio girl who will sporadically lift weights. Of course that is an assumption and I have no knowledge of her workouts. It’s just what I assume based on her photo.
Also I guess everyone did read the subject line because for the most part people are being nice. I don’t believe derogatory remarks are needed but your rating is definitely inflated from what I would rate you.
I think you have alot of work ahead of you. Good luck with your training.
One more thing, did you want us to rate your physique compared to the average person or to figure competitors?
[quote]kkeane wrote:
how the fuck can you assume that its because she lacks dedication or discipline? granted this could be what is wrong but all I am saying is, why attack her for these things when we really have no idea that that is her problem.
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Dude, I’m not going to argue with you over this- if you need fodder for your Knight in Shining Armour routine, look somewhere else. There are plenty of threads where guys are getting called out for lack of progress; you can polish your e-chivalry there.
9 times out of 10, people who don’t make any progress have themselves to blame. After all the whining and excuses, failure more often than not rests on their narrow little shoulders (in the end, they simply didn’t want it enough). That’s how we treat all the skinny guys who post here, and I’m not going to change that simply because this poster has a rack.
[quote]kkeane wrote:
If she is miles and miles away from doing a show, it just means she might need that much advice and help getting there…
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And I would be more than happy to offer some if that’s what she asked for. She didn’t. She wants us to Rate her Physique and to “please be kind” when we do it.
I gave her what she asked for- a rating. And though my response wasn’t kind, it was typical to T-Nation. The only difference is, I said it to a female.
P.S.- I’m sure you look oh-so-cute in her panties; just remember to untwist them before giving them back to her.
For the guys to being “crying” about young ladies not looking like a ripped mass monster is ridiculous. If a lady who juiced up on test and looked like Lee Priest with a wig posted a pic most of the same guys would be crying how she looks like a man. To me it reeks of crying about simple bullshit.
One more time, your average non pro female is never going to look like a heavily muscled guy (and I wouldn’t want them to). Jelena’s recent Powerful Image in the swimsuit and makeup was beautiful, but she didn’t look like muscles were bulging out of her. You guys need to get real.
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[quote]conner wrote:
kkeane wrote:
how the fuck can you assume that its because she lacks dedication or discipline? granted this could be what is wrong but all I am saying is, why attack her for these things when we really have no idea that that is her problem.
Dude, I’m not going to argue with you over this- if you need fodder for your Knight in Shining Armour routine, look somewhere else. There are plenty of threads where guys are getting called out for lack of progress; you can polish your e-chivalry there.
9 times out of 10, people who don’t make any progress have themselves to blame. After all the whining and excuses, failure more often than not rests on their narrow little shoulders (in the end, they simply didn’t want it enough). That’s how we treat all the skinny guys who post here, and I’m not going to change that simply because this poster has a rack.
kkeane wrote:
If she is miles and miles away from doing a show, it just means she might need that much advice and help getting there…
And I would be more than happy to offer some if that’s what she asked for. She didn’t. She wants us to Rate her Physique and to “please be kind” when we do it.
I gave her what she asked for- a rating. And though my response wasn’t kind, it was typical to T-Nation. The only difference is, I said it to a female.
P.S.- I’m sure you look oh-so-cute in her panties; just remember to untwist them before giving them back to her.[/quote]
If I remember correctly, I didn’t even say anything about your original post… you were the one that had a problem with me having something to say other than "you are skinny, suck, lack dedication, etc…) Another member was a little harsh (i thought) and I was presenting the opposing view… sorry if that upsets you.
If you want to hate on everyone and champion everyone’s faults, go for it. but leave me the fuck alone if i want to say something encouraging.
[quote]Ronsauce wrote:
Regardless of the why, if her male equivalent posted a pic after a long layoff from working out and asked for advice and a nifty little rating, he would get flamed and get rated a 2.[/quote]
You guys are silly. Men and women will never be compared on a level playing field so stop harping on the unfairness of it all.
I do think that women need to receive more objective criticism than “you’re hot” or “I’d like to train with you.” However, given that most men assess a woman’s attractiveness in relation to whether they’d “hit it” or not, women will always be given more slack.
Now… TBS Girl, I’m curious what your diet and training is like. Do you mind posting details?
[quote]Stuey wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Stuey wrote:
6.3
The double standard persists…
Christ, cry about it.
A good looking girl posts her pictures on a site called, “Testosterone Nation” and you expect her to be flamed.
Fuck it, she looks better than most girls out there, so i give her props anyway.
It’s not Hot or Not is it…
She’s attractive but barely looks as if she works out, hardly T-Nation 6.3 material. If she were a guy she would be flamed, not patted on the back for looking slightly better than most of the general population. As if that’s hard these days…
Is that hard for you to understand? Try thinking with something other than your penis.
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HA! NO!
I’m a guy. This is what we do. Just cause your balls are gone and there’s a stick up your ass doesn’t mean I’m like that too.
You sound like a communist.
[quote]sic wrote:
You guys are silly. Men and women will never be compared on a level playing field so stop harping on the unfairness of it all.
I do think that women need to receive more objective criticism than “you’re hot” or “I’d like to train with you.” However, given that most men assess a woman’s attractiveness in relation to whether they’d “hit it” or not, women will always be given more slack.
Now… TBS Girl, I’m curious what your diet and training is like. Do you mind posting details?[/quote]
I don’t think we’re being silly at all. It’s not that she’s not all HYOOGE and SWOLE, but rather, she’s unremarkable for someone posting on a bodybuilding site asking people to rate her physique. She really doesn’t look like she lifts(and hasn’t for a few months by her own admission).
This isn’t Hot or Not, and attractivness isn’t what’s being rated.
[quote]Stuey wrote:
6.3
The double standard persists…[/quote]
It’s a total injustice. I am sick of hot girls posting pictures on the site! Thankfully, she is wearing clothing. I would totally be outraged if she had on less clothing.
On a serious note: I’m a feminist, and don’t like double standards. But my feminism sort of ends when it comes to physiques. I like women who “look like women.” (Yes, this is a loaded statement.) And I think men should aspire for a “masculine” physique. (Yep, another loaded statement.)
So I actually get where you’re coming from. Still… If applying double standards means more hotties post pictures, well, that is a double standard I can live with.