Planned Parenthood

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

Without abortion, what makes one of those million parents a better person? They are law abiding either way.[/quote]

Uh, not killing their own kid makes them better people. Killing the kid is worse than possible neglect or even abuse. At least in my book, I guess it’s possible your book puts the death of the kid as not as bad as neglect or whatever. Seems pretty backwards to me though.

Can we stop talking about funding and start talking about prison?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can we stop talking about funding and start talking about prison?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/[/quote]

Yeah, that looks like a negotiation. If it were covering costs, what’s there to negotiate? Well, maybe the price of the Lamborghini.
They are fucking busted. Planned Parenthood didn’t deny it, they just tried to discredit the whistle-blowers. If it were not true, I would expect a flat, complete and absolute denial and they didn’t do that. Fucking BUSTED.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can we stop talking about funding and start talking about prison?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/[/quote]

Yeah, that looks like a negotiation. If it were covering costs, what’s there to negotiate? Well, maybe the price of the Lamborghini.
They are fucking busted. Planned Parenthood didn’t deny it, they just tried to discredit the whistle-blowers. If it were not true, I would expect a flat, complete and absolute denial and they didn’t do that. Fucking BUSTED.
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I already had this exact conversation with a friend. Incurred cost is a fix calculable number. There is nothing to haggle over. Haggling over prices on human body parts is just fucking sick.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can we stop talking about funding and start talking about prison?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/[/quote]

Yeah, that looks like a negotiation. If it were covering costs, what’s there to negotiate? Well, maybe the price of the Lamborghini.
They are fucking busted. Planned Parenthood didn’t deny it, they just tried to discredit the whistle-blowers. If it were not true, I would expect a flat, complete and absolute denial and they didn’t do that. Fucking BUSTED.
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I already had this exact conversation with a friend. Incurred cost is a fix calculable number. There is nothing to haggle over. Haggling over prices on human body parts is just fucking sick.[/quote]

True, but like somebody said earlier in the thread, what do you expect from people who think it’s okay to kill children in the first place? Morals?

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can we stop talking about funding and start talking about prison?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/[/quote]

Yeah, that looks like a negotiation. If it were covering costs, what’s there to negotiate? Well, maybe the price of the Lamborghini.
They are fucking busted. Planned Parenthood didn’t deny it, they just tried to discredit the whistle-blowers. If it were not true, I would expect a flat, complete and absolute denial and they didn’t do that. Fucking BUSTED.
[/quote]

I already had this exact conversation with a friend. Incurred cost is a fix calculable number. There is nothing to haggle over. Haggling over prices on human body parts is just fucking sick.[/quote]

These people are scum, but I don’t think this is entirely accurate. There could be variable cost associated with the murder of these children and the exchange of the tissue.

There is zero reason for any negotiations to occur though. If planned parenthood didn’t sell body parts there would be a very specific organizational policy that required reimbursement of costs only and those cost would be on a case by case basis to account for any variable costs at the time of distribution.

They were clearly negotiating over fetal parts in both video and it’s disgusting. We will look back at abortion in the same way we look back at slavery in the future.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can we stop talking about funding and start talking about prison?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/[/quote]

Yeah, that looks like a negotiation. If it were covering costs, what’s there to negotiate? Well, maybe the price of the Lamborghini.
They are fucking busted. Planned Parenthood didn’t deny it, they just tried to discredit the whistle-blowers. If it were not true, I would expect a flat, complete and absolute denial and they didn’t do that. Fucking BUSTED.
[/quote]

I already had this exact conversation with a friend. Incurred cost is a fix calculable number. There is nothing to haggle over. Haggling over prices on human body parts is just fucking sick.[/quote]

These people are scum, but I don’t think this is entirely accurate. There could be variable cost associated with the murder of these children and the exchange of the tissue.

There is zero reason for any negotiations to occur though. If planned parenthood didn’t sell body parts there would be a very specific organizational policy that required reimbursement of costs only and those cost would be on a case by case basis to account for any variable costs at the time of distribution.

They were clearly negotiating over fetal parts in both video and it’s disgusting. We will look back at abortion in the same way we look back at slavery in the future. [/quote]

Watch the video, the Planned Parenthood cunt is asking for an offer to be made an is worried about being low-balled. That’s not the same as being reimbursed. Reimbursements aren’t negotiable. Costs are what they are.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can we stop talking about funding and start talking about prison?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/[/quote]

Yeah, that looks like a negotiation. If it were covering costs, what’s there to negotiate? Well, maybe the price of the Lamborghini.
They are fucking busted. Planned Parenthood didn’t deny it, they just tried to discredit the whistle-blowers. If it were not true, I would expect a flat, complete and absolute denial and they didn’t do that. Fucking BUSTED.
[/quote]

I already had this exact conversation with a friend. Incurred cost is a fix calculable number. There is nothing to haggle over. Haggling over prices on human body parts is just fucking sick.[/quote]

These people are scum, but I don’t think this is entirely accurate. There could be variable cost associated with the murder of these children and the exchange of the tissue.

There is zero reason for any negotiations to occur though. If planned parenthood didn’t sell body parts there would be a very specific organizational policy that required reimbursement of costs only and those cost would be on a case by case basis to account for any variable costs at the time of distribution.

They were clearly negotiating over fetal parts in both video and it’s disgusting. We will look back at abortion in the same way we look back at slavery in the future. [/quote]

Watch the video, the Planned Parenthood cunt is asking for an offer to be made an is worried about being low-balled. That’s not the same as being reimbursed. Reimbursements aren’t negotiable. Costs are what they are.[/quote]

Cost reimbursement also has nothing to do with what other people are making. The only reason she could be concerned with the market rates is to keep the price low enough to not stand out for getting to much and looking like they were getting paid. Reimbursement has nothing to do with other clinics, that doesn’t affect their cost.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can we stop talking about funding and start talking about prison?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/[/quote]

Yeah, that looks like a negotiation. If it were covering costs, what’s there to negotiate? Well, maybe the price of the Lamborghini.
They are fucking busted. Planned Parenthood didn’t deny it, they just tried to discredit the whistle-blowers. If it were not true, I would expect a flat, complete and absolute denial and they didn’t do that. Fucking BUSTED.
[/quote]

I already had this exact conversation with a friend. Incurred cost is a fix calculable number. There is nothing to haggle over. Haggling over prices on human body parts is just fucking sick.[/quote]

These people are scum, but I don’t think this is entirely accurate. There could be variable cost associated with the murder of these children and the exchange of the tissue.

There is zero reason for any negotiations to occur though. If planned parenthood didn’t sell body parts there would be a very specific organizational policy that required reimbursement of costs only and those cost would be on a case by case basis to account for any variable costs at the time of distribution.

They were clearly negotiating over fetal parts in both video and it’s disgusting. We will look back at abortion in the same way we look back at slavery in the future. [/quote]

Watch the video, the Planned Parenthood cunt is asking for an offer to be made an is worried about being low-balled. That’s not the same as being reimbursed. Reimbursements aren’t negotiable. Costs are what they are.[/quote]

Cost reimbursement also has nothing to do with what other people are making. The only reason she could be concerned with the market rates is to keep the price low enough to not stand out for getting to much and looking like they were getting paid. Reimbursement has nothing to do with other clinics, that doesn’t affect their cost.[/quote]

Ya, I agree. I’m just saying there could be variable costs…

I’m wondering how many of these videos there are. Is this the next ACORN?

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can we stop talking about funding and start talking about prison?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/[/quote]

Yeah, that looks like a negotiation. If it were covering costs, what’s there to negotiate? Well, maybe the price of the Lamborghini.
They are fucking busted. Planned Parenthood didn’t deny it, they just tried to discredit the whistle-blowers. If it were not true, I would expect a flat, complete and absolute denial and they didn’t do that. Fucking BUSTED.
[/quote]

I already had this exact conversation with a friend. Incurred cost is a fix calculable number. There is nothing to haggle over. Haggling over prices on human body parts is just fucking sick.[/quote]

These people are scum, but I don’t think this is entirely accurate. There could be variable cost associated with the murder of these children and the exchange of the tissue.

There is zero reason for any negotiations to occur though. If planned parenthood didn’t sell body parts there would be a very specific organizational policy that required reimbursement of costs only and those cost would be on a case by case basis to account for any variable costs at the time of distribution.

They were clearly negotiating over fetal parts in both video and it’s disgusting. We will look back at abortion in the same way we look back at slavery in the future. [/quote]

Watch the video, the Planned Parenthood cunt is asking for an offer to be made an is worried about being low-balled. That’s not the same as being reimbursed. Reimbursements aren’t negotiable. Costs are what they are.[/quote]

Cost reimbursement also has nothing to do with what other people are making. The only reason she could be concerned with the market rates is to keep the price low enough to not stand out for getting to much and looking like they were getting paid. Reimbursement has nothing to do with other clinics, that doesn’t affect their cost.[/quote]

Ya, I agree. I’m just saying there could be variable costs…[/quote]

Sure, but that still doesn’t require any sort of negotiation. The costs involved indeed could be variable, that does not appear to be what is being discussed. And most importantly, PP did not deny the practice, at all. They attacked the messenger, but did not deny the allegations. That I think, is most telling.

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Can we stop talking about funding and start talking about prison?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/new-planned-parenthood-video-shows-top-doc-haggling-over-price-fetal-body-parts/[/quote]

Yeah, that looks like a negotiation. If it were covering costs, what’s there to negotiate? Well, maybe the price of the Lamborghini.
They are fucking busted. Planned Parenthood didn’t deny it, they just tried to discredit the whistle-blowers. If it were not true, I would expect a flat, complete and absolute denial and they didn’t do that. Fucking BUSTED.
[/quote]

I already had this exact conversation with a friend. Incurred cost is a fix calculable number. There is nothing to haggle over. Haggling over prices on human body parts is just fucking sick.[/quote]

These people are scum, but I don’t think this is entirely accurate. There could be variable cost associated with the murder of these children and the exchange of the tissue.

There is zero reason for any negotiations to occur though. If planned parenthood didn’t sell body parts there would be a very specific organizational policy that required reimbursement of costs only and those cost would be on a case by case basis to account for any variable costs at the time of distribution.

They were clearly negotiating over fetal parts in both video and it’s disgusting. We will look back at abortion in the same way we look back at slavery in the future. [/quote]

Watch the video, the Planned Parenthood cunt is asking for an offer to be made an is worried about being low-balled. That’s not the same as being reimbursed. Reimbursements aren’t negotiable. Costs are what they are.[/quote]

Cost reimbursement also has nothing to do with what other people are making. The only reason she could be concerned with the market rates is to keep the price low enough to not stand out for getting to much and looking like they were getting paid. Reimbursement has nothing to do with other clinics, that doesn’t affect their cost.[/quote]

Ya, I agree. I’m just saying there could be variable costs…[/quote]

Sure, but that still doesn’t require any sort of negotiation. The costs involved indeed could be variable, that does not appear to be what is being discussed. And most importantly, PP did not deny the practice, at all. They attacked the messenger, but did not deny the allegations. That I think, is most telling.[/quote]

Lol, Pat, I’m with you. All I wanted to point out is that the cost isn’t fixed.

[quote]Alrightmiami19c wrote:
I’m wondering how many of these videos there are. Is this the next ACORN?[/quote]

I heard they have quite a few, in the pipe. I applaud them for taking down this behemoth. Planned Infanticide did not see this coming.

[quote]pat wrote:
Planned Infanticide[/quote]

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/abortion_clinic

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Planned Infanticide[/quote]

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/abortion_clinic
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Okay, that’s funny.

Here are corporate sponsors of Planned Parenthood.

We are not totally powerless here. We can shop elsewhere for goods and services. However, there is a difference between corporate sponsors who donate directly vs. those who do donation matching by employees. Unfortunately, Planned Parenthood is listed as a 501c3 organization which makes it eligible for matched funds. So a company cannot legally refuse to match a charity on the list with out nixing the whole program. So in those cases, it’s up to your discretion.
Here are some companies responses:

To those who feel strongly about ending abortion, our main focus should be on those companies who directly donate to the abortion industry.

We can bitch about it here and we should. But we should also write these companies and tell them we won’t do business with them as long as they support the largest provider of abortion in the nation.
Not shopping with these companies is great. Telling them why is even better. Given the recent bad publicity, it should have some extra oomph.
I am doing it. I am asking those of you who oppose abortion to take a little time and send a small message. 2 letters is better than 1. 100 letters is better than 2, 1000 letters will get someone’s attention.
These companies may like abortion, but they like profits a lot more.

We can also write our congressmen to put forth legislation to have Planned Parenthood removed as a 503c charity so long as they are in the abortion business.
I know it seems like a drop in the bucket, but if enough people do it, it will make a difference. Really, it take 5 minutes to send an email.

Companies who were put on the list mistakenly and have asked their names to be removed:
http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/23/planned-parenthood-pulls-names-of-corporate-donors-after-coca-cola-ford-and-xerox-object/

Have a Coke and a smile…

[quote]pat wrote:
Here are corporate sponsors of Planned Parenthood.

We are not totally powerless here. We can shop elsewhere for goods and services. However, there is a difference between corporate sponsors who donate directly vs. those who do donation matching by employees. Unfortunately, Planned Parenthood is listed as a 501c3 organization which makes it eligible for matched funds. So a company cannot legally refuse to match a charity on the list with out nixing the whole program. So in those cases, it’s up to your discretion.
Here are some companies responses:

To those who feel strongly about ending abortion, our main focus should be on those companies who directly donate to the abortion industry.

We can bitch about it here and we should. But we should also write these companies and tell them we won’t do business with them as long as they support the largest provider of abortion in the nation.
Not shopping with these companies is great. Telling them why is even better. Given the recent bad publicity, it should have some extra oomph.
I am doing it. I am asking those of you who oppose abortion to take a little time and send a small message. 2 letters is better than 1. 100 letters is better than 2, 1000 letters will get someone’s attention.
These companies may like abortion, but they like profits a lot more.

We can also write our congressmen to put forth legislation to have Planned Parenthood removed as a 503c charity so long as they are in the abortion business.
I know it seems like a drop in the bucket, but if enough people do it, it will make a difference. Really, it take 5 minutes to send an email.

Companies who were put on the list mistakenly and have asked their names to be removed:

Have a Coke and a smile…[/quote]

Well, for what it’s worth, I don’t use products from any of those companies…with the exception of Microsoft, and that is not by choice. Fucking Windows and Excel on the company computer.

How is Fannie Mae on the list?

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:
Here are corporate sponsors of Planned Parenthood.

We are not totally powerless here. We can shop elsewhere for goods and services. However, there is a difference between corporate sponsors who donate directly vs. those who do donation matching by employees. Unfortunately, Planned Parenthood is listed as a 501c3 organization which makes it eligible for matched funds. So a company cannot legally refuse to match a charity on the list with out nixing the whole program. So in those cases, it’s up to your discretion.
Here are some companies responses:

To those who feel strongly about ending abortion, our main focus should be on those companies who directly donate to the abortion industry.

We can bitch about it here and we should. But we should also write these companies and tell them we won’t do business with them as long as they support the largest provider of abortion in the nation.
Not shopping with these companies is great. Telling them why is even better. Given the recent bad publicity, it should have some extra oomph.
I am doing it. I am asking those of you who oppose abortion to take a little time and send a small message. 2 letters is better than 1. 100 letters is better than 2, 1000 letters will get someone’s attention.
These companies may like abortion, but they like profits a lot more.

We can also write our congressmen to put forth legislation to have Planned Parenthood removed as a 503c charity so long as they are in the abortion business.
I know it seems like a drop in the bucket, but if enough people do it, it will make a difference. Really, it take 5 minutes to send an email.

Companies who were put on the list mistakenly and have asked their names to be removed:

Have a Coke and a smile…[/quote]

Well, for what it’s worth, I don’t use products from any of those companies…with the exception of Microsoft, and that is not by choice. Fucking Windows and Excel on the company computer.[/quote]

Yeah, sometimes you have no choice.

[quote]pat wrote:

Yeah, sometimes you have no choice. [/quote]

Like how our tax dollars help fund the damn place.