[quote]Bismark wrote:
Genocide? You’re really being overly emotive. [/quote]
That’s twice now you’ve tried to pretend away the moral repugnance of abortion that you are much, much too intelligent to deny, by claiming my presumed emotional excitement actually refutes anything I’ve said.
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
The slavery comparison is such an apt one:
1861 “They’re better off in bondage.”
2015 “They’re better off dead.”[/quote]
Slaverly was an institution protected. Abortion is an individual medical decision protected by law. [/quote]
ummm, each individual slave owner made an economic decision protected by law.
Nice try, but nope
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Boy born without a brain lives to be 12 years old, dies peacefully
http://q13fox.com/2014/08/31/boy-born-without-a-brain-lives-to-be-12-years-old-dies-peacefully/[/quote]
A non sentient human shell kept “alive” only though extensive external support is a pretty low bar for personhood. A chimpanzee is more human than a lobotomite. [/quote]
You know, sometimes I really enjoy your posts and then other times, like in this case, you come off as such a twat. He could breath on his own. His heart beat on it’s own. The only “extensive external support” was a feeding tube.
That’s a fucking person.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Bismark wrote:
A chimpanzee is more human than a lobotomite. [/quote]
Circa 1855: “A chimpanzee is more human than a nigger.”
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What’s that saying, something about ignoring history or something…
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Bismark wrote:
A chimpanzee is more human than a lobotomite. [/quote]
Circa 1855: “A chimpanzee is more human than a nigger.”
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What’s that saying, something about ignoring history or something…[/quote]
“So you can vote Democrat” I think.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
we are debating a non point . But my point stands if a child’s life would be better off dead , I opt to let the child die rather than torture it with force feeding[/quote]
By your definition Stephen Hawking would be better off dead. [/quote]
Pretty easy to make shit up , Keeping alive a mass because you have scientific ability is not humane it is torture.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
But my point stands if a child’s life would be better off dead , I opt to let the child die [/quote]
Glad you’re the all knowing and wonderful Master of the Universe and KNOW if someone would be better off dead.
Who the fuck are you to make that determination? Oh right… You aren’t fit to, ever. [/quote]
I am making no determination , I am stating an opinion just like you
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
But my point stands if a child’s life would be better off dead , I opt to let the child die [/quote]
Glad you’re the all knowing and wonderful Master of the Universe and KNOW if someone would be better off dead.
Who the fuck are you to make that determination? Oh right… You aren’t fit to, ever. [/quote]
Speaking of “better off dead,” I got to thinking…if some innocent children “would be better off dead” where might that leave us with with a guilty adult who incessantly wishes death on those children…?
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The whole issue is a non issue . It is impossible to human live with out a brain, You may keep a mass of flesh from decomposing but that is it
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
A complete, whole, living, human being is present at the moment of conception.
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Not true , it may have all it’d chromosomes but it is not complete until it is completely developed
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So, something like 20 years old then?[/quote]
No I would say around 6 months in utero
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So long long long long before fully developed then? make up your mind Pit. You aren’t even marginally biologically fully developed until reproductive abilities are there.[/quote]
Shit, I grew up until 23/24 years old. [/quote]
you still haven’t grew up
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I can’t believe I’m arguing with someone who’s entrance into the thread was irrelevant bullshit about Israel…[/quote]
See your lack of ability to discuss like an adult leaves you with a void of understanding , My point is why would you get all become all enraged about a gob of goo when you do not give a fuck about the people that are a live and have developed beyond that gob . Some are young some are your age some are old , there are ,I am sure some even gobs of goo , 51 day war , watch
your tax dollars support this
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
A complete, whole, living, human being is present at the moment of conception.
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Not true , it may have all it’d chromosomes but it is not complete until it is completely developed
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So, something like 20 years old then?[/quote]
No I would say around 6 months in utero
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So long long long long before fully developed then? make up your mind Pit. You aren’t even marginally biologically fully developed until reproductive abilities are there.[/quote]
Shit, I grew up until 23/24 years old. [/quote]
you still haven’t grew up
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So, by your reasoning, it’s totally okay to kill him.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
we are debating a non point . But my point stands if a child’s life would be better off dead , I opt to let the child die rather than torture it with force feeding[/quote]
By your definition Stephen Hawking would be better off dead. [/quote]
Pretty easy to make shit up , Keeping alive a mass because you have scientific ability is not humane it is torture.
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So the mass that is Stephen Hawking should be taken off his life support?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
But my point stands if a child’s life would be better off dead , I opt to let the child die [/quote]
Glad you’re the all knowing and wonderful Master of the Universe and KNOW if someone would be better off dead.
Who the fuck are you to make that determination? Oh right… You aren’t fit to, ever. [/quote]
Speaking of “better off dead,” I got to thinking…if some innocent children “would be better off dead” where might that leave us with with a guilty adult who incessantly wishes death on those children…?
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The whole issue is a non issue . It is impossible to human live with out a brain, You may keep a mass of flesh from decomposing but that is it
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Except it isn’t impossible.
[quote]Bismark wrote:
Human life begins at conception. Any scientifically literate person will acknowledge this. I do not, however, believe that terminating a zygote is the same as terminating an embryo, an embryo the same as a nascent fetus, ect.
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It’s exactly the same, just like terminating a toddler is no different than terminating a teenager. You don’t get to choose the arbitrary point at which it is okay to kill a human being.
That should be the end right there.
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I’m not sure that the ends don’t justify the means, however. To be sure, prevention is much more preferable. Use of contraceptives should be promoted and subsidized, at least in part. [/quote]
Contraception is more accepted and accessible than ever before, yet the abortion rate remains at around 1.2 million per year. The evidence does not back this assertion up.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
man this is fucked up , every one worried about a glob of gue when they have no problems killing viable life ; life in Palestine [/quote]
LOL
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
No science may tell you it is a human life at the point of conception but it never tells you when it is a person .
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Human life can’t be anything other than a person dipshit. It isn’t a dog, tree rock or magic fairy dust.
Like I said, with the rest of your drivel, you’d have made a get asset to the slave owning community.
I’m done with you’re shit here. Carry on being this stupid and down right evil, it’s on you to sleep at night. [/quote]
human life can be a sperm , if it is a human sperm and it is alive then it is a human life , person-hood is when a developed gob of goo takes form and has every characteristic of a functioning person , eats , sleeps , breaths [/quote]
That should be easy enough to prove. Present some evidence that a sperm is a human being…
Look at some Embryology sites.