Pinkos Have A Lot to Answer For

What The World Owes Palestinians and The Left
By Dennis Prager

In the last few weeks, innocent men, women and children have been blown up, paralyzed, brain damaged and otherwise had their lives ruined by Muslim suicide bombers in Britain, Egypt and Iraq.

Who can we thank for this man-made plague? Palestinians and the Left.

We need to thank Palestinians for their major contribution to humanity – religiously sanctioned mass murder of innocents through suicide. Prior to the Palestinians, this did not exist.

It is true that Tamil suicide bombers in Sri Lanka have murdered many thousands and they are not Muslims. But the Tamil rationale for suicide terror – though utterly immoral – is confined to a (secular) nationalist movement in Sri Lanka.

Palestinian Muslims – no Palestinian Christians have committed a suicide bombing – have created a religious and moral basis for mass murder and did so within a worldwide religion with a billion adherents. When the Palestinians sent brainwashed young men to blow themselves up in Israeli buses, cafes and discos, they offered justifications that provided the basis for many others to do the same.

They said that blowing up Jews in Israel – of any age and in any location – was an act that glorified Allah, that one who engaged in such atrocities was a Muslim equivalent to a saint, and would be rewarded in heaven by many beautiful virgins. I do not know of any Muslim religious organization or leader who condemned this Palestinian Muslim terror-theology as anti-Islamic.

Judea Pearl, the father of murdered Wall Street Journal journalist Daniel Pearl, has devoted his life since his son’s murder by Muslims in Pakistan to building bridges to the Muslim world. He told me on my radio show that he is sad to report that “99.99 percent” of the Muslim world does not believe that Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state. It is no wonder, then, that so few Muslims religiously or morally condemned Palestinian terror against Israeli Jews. At best, some Palestinians condemn Palestinian terror as counterproductive to the Palestinian cause. Period. It may be impractical, but not immoral or un-Islamic.

What therefore happened was that the religious justification for murdering innocent people took hold in the Muslim world. It apparently never occurred to Muslim leaders that once you justify evil, that evil will eventually be unleashed against you, too.

If blowing up Jewish children is OK, so is blowing up Egyptian, Moroccan, Iraqi, British, Spanish and Russian children.

And that is where the Left comes in. They have provided the secular and universal justification for Palestinian Islamic terror against Jews.

According to the world’s Left, it’s OK for Palestinians to put bombs in an Israeli student cafeteria because:

  1. Israel occupies Palestinian land (even though a leftist Israeli government offered 97 percent of it to Yasser Arafat)

  2. Therefore, Palestinians are engaging in legitimate resistance

  3. Since Palestinians don’t have sophisticated weaponry, they use their weapon, the suicide bomber

  4. Israelis kill Palestinian civilians, so there is a moral equivalence between Israel and the Palestinians (even though the Palestinians target Jewish innocents and the Israelis do not target Palestinian innocents)

But, alas, the anti-Israel Left (an almost redundant description), too, did not understand the genie it had helped unleash onto the world. Why is it all right for Muslims to blow up Israeli children, but not Russian children? Israeli buses, but not British buses? Jews in Israel, but not Muslims in Iraq?

Actually, for many on the Left, it is all right. The socialist mayor of London himself blames the terror in his city on British support for America and Israel, not on Islamic terror-theology.

Like London’s mayor, the Left around the world blames Israel for the Palestinian suicide bombers, and blames America for those in Iraq. Without the Left around the world, the Palestinian God-based mass murder through suicide would have been an isolated phenomenon, universally condemned as the evil it is.

And who is to blame for the Muslim terror in other Muslim countries such as Morocco and Egypt? Here, the leftist and Muslim apologists for Palestinian terror enter cognitive dissonance.

The next time you read of men, women and children blown apart by a young Muslim praising Allah, you can thank Palestinians and the Left.

[quote]redswingline wrote:
What The World Owes Palestinians and The Left
By Dennis Prager

In the last few weeks, innocent men, women and children have been blown up, paralyzed, brain damaged and otherwise had their lives ruined by Muslim suicide bombers in Britain, Egypt and Iraq…


The next time you read of men, women and children blown apart by a young Muslim praising Allah, you can thank Palestinians and the Left.

[/quote]

wow, your view of the left is so one-sided, oversimplified and narrow it makes baby-jesus cry…

[quote]orion wrote:
redswingline wrote:
What The World Owes Palestinians and The Left
By Dennis Prager

In the last few weeks, innocent men, women and children have been blown up, paralyzed, brain damaged and otherwise had their lives ruined by Muslim suicide bombers in Britain, Egypt and Iraq…


The next time you read of men, women and children blown apart by a young Muslim praising Allah, you can thank Palestinians and the Left.

wow, your view of the left is so one-sided, oversimplified and narrow it makes baby-jesus cry…[/quote]

Hypocrytical.

Here is why, he is basing his view of the left on far more information than you are basing your view of his view. He has written one very short peice basically ranting about a few things. Hardly enough to fully understand his entire view on the left. Therefore, you are being even more closed minded than you accuse him of being by judging him without further discourse on the topic.

Why is this so hard for people to understand, this is like stopping some purse snatcher who just stole some old ladys purse and then taking off with the purse yourself.

V

Most Americans know nothing about the situation in Palestine. That said, most leftists and non-left, pro-Palestinian people DO condemn suicide bombing. Perhaps some also add that they understand the frustration and helplessness that many Palestinians feel and can thus see the reasoning behind them, but the majority do condemn suicide bombings.

However, what I find to be a fairly ludicrous argument is the idea that the Western left and Palestinian-people-as-whole have a combined responsibility for the modern guerrilla-war tactic of suicide bombing.

Before the second intifada and the rise of suicide bombings in Palestine, the Tamil Tigers (as noted in the article), the Tupac Amaru, the Viet-Cong, the SS Werewolves, and the Makhnovistas, to name a few, have made use of suicide bombings. I would also be remiss if I didn’t blame the Imperial Japanese Navy for their use of kamikaze aircraft and submarines.

My point is this, suicide bombings and, more generally, suicide missions are a part of all warfare and have always been. Additionally, since the Second World War and the Nazi attacks on London, attacks on civilians have been a part of warfare.

Does it suck? Fuck yeah! Is it de riguer for modern armies, guerrilla or otherwise, to attack civilians? Yes. Observe the Iraqi Scud attacks on Israel during the First Gulf War or the U.S. attack on Fallujah.

My biggest concern about this article, however, is that it continues a silly trend that I have observed in Western media: blaming the tactic. Would Sept. 11 been any worse if it hadn’t been a suicide attack? Instead of complaining about a particular tactic, why not focus on the real outrage: the insanity of al-qaeda’s hatred of “decadent” Western culture? Why try to blame the entire Western left for suicide bombing when the obvious culprit is a bunch of whack-jobs who hate the idea of women walking around in jeans? This is the exact same mentality as blaming Marilyn Manson for the Columbine massacre.

[quote]battlelust wrote:
Most Americans know nothing about the situation in Palestine. That said, most leftists and non-left, pro-Palestinian people DO condemn suicide bombing. Perhaps some also add that they understand the frustration and helplessness that many Palestinians feel and can thus see the reasoning behind them, but the majority do condemn suicide bombings.

However, what I find to be a fairly ludicrous argument is the idea that the Western left and Palestinian-people-as-whole have a combined responsibility for the modern guerrilla-war tactic of suicide bombing.

Before the second intifada and the rise of suicide bombings in Palestine, the Tamil Tigers (as noted in the article), the Tupac Amaru, the Viet-Cong, the SS Werewolves, and the Makhnovistas, to name a few, have made use of suicide bombings. I would also be remiss if I didn’t blame the Imperial Japanese Navy for their use of kamikaze aircraft and submarines.

My point is this, suicide bombings and, more generally, suicide missions are a part of all warfare and have always been. Additionally, since the Second World War and the Nazi attacks on London, attacks on civilians have been a part of warfare.

Does it suck? Fuck yeah! Is it de riguer for modern armies, guerrilla or otherwise, to attack civilians? Yes. Observe the Iraqi Scud attacks on Israel during the First Gulf War or the U.S. attack on Fallujah.

My biggest concern about this article, however, is that it continues a silly trend that I have observed in Western media: blaming the tactic. Would Sept. 11 been any worse if it hadn’t been a suicide attack? Instead of complaining about a particular tactic, why not focus on the real outrage: the insanity of al-qaeda’s hatred of “decadent” Western culture? Why try to blame the entire Western left for suicide bombing when the obvious culprit is a bunch of whack-jobs who hate the idea of women walking around in jeans? This is the exact same mentality as blaming Marilyn Manson for the Columbine massacre.[/quote]

It’s interesting to note how US Military tactics have changed with regards to attacks by irregular forces.

In WW2 is an SS Werewolve attacked was launched from a village the entire village paid the price in reprisals. The US would shell it for a day. Not suprisingly the villagers would hand over the SS. Once they understood our tactic the locals would give up the SS before the attacks occured.

In Vietnam we assasinated leaders of the Viet Cong.

Both programs worked very well but these tactics are now viewed us too brutal and unacceptable.

It’s not pretty but an enemy who stoops too terror needs to be dealt with forcefully and sometimes with even more brutal means. Sad but true.

hedo,

[quote]hedo wrote:

It’s interesting to note how US Military tactics have changed with regards to attacks by irregular forces.

In WW2 is an SS Werewolve attacked was launched from a village the entire village paid the price in reprisals. The US would shell it for a day. Not suprisingly the villagers would hand over the SS. Once they understood our tactic the locals would give up the SS before the attacks occured.[/quote]

Given the fact that the few Werwolf-Attacks that actually happened were targeted at Germans (murder of the mayor of Aachen, murder night of Penzberg), and that cooperation was often forced by threats to civilians, this is a pretty bad comparison.

To quote the website of the 100th Infantry Division homepage on the Werwoelfe: “In reality, the German nation was so thoroughly defeated, and the vast majority of German civilians so destitute, that very little came of this brainchild of Heinrich Himmler.”
http://www.100thww2.org/occupation/occ1.html

For the German speakers, here another source: http://lexikon.idgr.de/w/w_e/werwolf/werwolf.php

I could not find anything on the Werwoelfe attacking US troops, but I can be wrong off course.

[quote]In Vietnam we assasinated leaders of the Viet Cong.

Both programs worked very well but these tactics are now viewed us too brutal and unacceptable.

It’s not pretty but an enemy who stoops too terror needs to be dealt with forcefully and sometimes with even more brutal means. Sad but true.[/quote]

Given the fact that the Werwoelfe were no threat at all, and Vietnam was not exactly an overall success, I think these comparisons are both incorrect. Hence, I cannot agree with your argument. I find it even a bit worrying as it could be used to justify excessive force against civilians.

Makkun

The US example in Fallujah show we risk the life of our Marines to minimize civilian casualties.

By the time we cleared Fallujah, the only ones left were the bad guys.

The chief bad guys and the civilians had fled.

At that point we could have leveled the city, instead we went house to house and risked our boys lives.

[quote]makkun wrote:
I could not find anything on the Werwoelfe attacking US troops, but I can be wrong off course.

[/quote]

My apologies for indicating that the Werewolves suicide bombed US troops. I had read that they planned to do so, however, as you pointed out, the total and complete devastation of 7 years of war and terror kinda sapped the will of the German people. Its a shame the General Staff didn’t have balls to begin with, but that’s a whole different argument.

However, my main point is still: Do we focus our criticism on an aberrant tactic, or on an aberrant, life-denying philosophy? Is suicide bombing the problem, or is the anti-liberal philosophy of al-qaeda, et al. the problem?
Note: I’m using liberal in the classical sense so don’t shit your pants.

battlelust,

[quote]battlelust wrote:
makkun wrote:
I could not find anything on the Werwoelfe attacking US troops, but I can be wrong off course.

My apologies for indicating that the Werewolves suicide bombed US troops. I had read that they planned to do so, however, as you pointed out, the total and complete devastation of 7 years of war and terror kinda sapped the will of the German people. Its a shame the General Staff didn’t have balls to begin with, but that’s a whole different argument.

However, my main point is still: Do we focus our criticism on an aberrant tactic, or on an aberrant, life-denying philosophy? Is suicide bombing the problem, or is the anti-liberal philosophy of al-qaeda, et al. the problem?
Note: I’m using liberal in the classical sense so don’t shit your pants.
[/quote]

I think we can and should criticise both: I think the life-denying philosophy also leads to the aberrant tactic. The philosophy helps to dehumanize the political opponent, making it legitimate to treat him different than you would normally people you don’t consent with, allowing “extreme” measures.

Also, if you resort to killing in order to make your political statement, you have lost the argument and any moral justification, except in the case of direct self-defense, or the defense of others. And this goes for nations just as much as for fringe groups.

Makkun

[quote]Vegita wrote:
orion wrote:
redswingline wrote:
What The World Owes Palestinians and The Left
By Dennis Prager

In the last few weeks, innocent men, women and children have been blown up, paralyzed, brain damaged and otherwise had their lives ruined by Muslim suicide bombers in Britain, Egypt and Iraq…


The next time you read of men, women and children blown apart by a young Muslim praising Allah, you can thank Palestinians and the Left.

wow, your view of the left is so one-sided, oversimplified and narrow it makes baby-jesus cry…

Hypocrytical.

Here is why, he is basing his view of the left on far more information than you are basing your view of his view. He has written one very short peice basically ranting about a few things. Hardly enough to fully understand his entire view on the left. Therefore, you are being even more closed minded than you accuse him of being by judging him without further discourse on the topic.

Why is this so hard for people to understand, this is like stopping some purse snatcher who just stole some old ladys purse and then taking off with the purse yourself.

V[/quote]

vegita,

now baby-jesus also refuses to eat and it?s entirely YOUR fault…