Santorum was discredited a long time ago, that’s why he all but got booed off stage at the Republican debates and had an angry psycho meltdown. Ron Paul dropped bombs on him and got resounding applause, and you know Ron Paul is not a ‘main line’ candidate.
The guy is a favorite of mega social conservatives, and theocrats in Congressmen togas. Noone else takes him seriously as a national leader, and hardly even as a Congressmen. People in his own party have called him the dumbest man in Congress, namely John McCain’s staff.
The guy argued with John McCain and told him he knows nothing of prisoner of war detention and torture.
Like I said, his only support comes from the theocrats looking for a Hollywood good lucks swallowable candidate to push their distopian liberty-less agenda. They have hardly found it in Santorum, but I guess he’s the closest they’ve ever come.
Santorum never “argued with McCain”. He was interviewed by Hugh Hewitt about McCain’s vocal opposition to enhanced interrogation techniques. Santorum said McCain “doesn’t understand how enhanced interrogation works”. No argument with McCain. No mention of not ‘know(ing about) prisoner of war detention and torture’. Utter liberal horseshit beat up with Rohnyn special sauce. Straw grasping.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Santorum never “argued with McCain”. He was interviewed by Hugh Hewitt about McCain’s vocal opposition to enhanced interrogation techniques. Santorum said McCain “doesn’t understand how enhanced interrogation works”. No argument with McCain. No mention of not ‘know(ing about) prisoner of war detention and torture’. Utter liberal horseshit beat up with Rohnyn special sauce. Straw grasping.[/quote]
Right. Look it up yourself. McCain aide called him a the dumbest Senator in 20 years. Fact not fiction.
Perhaps you should read my post again. I never made mention of McCain’s aid. Who gives a hoot in hell what John McCain’s aid said anyway? Find some more straws and get back to me. This isn’t good enough. D-
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Perhaps you should read my post again. I never made mention of McCain’s aid. Who gives a hoot in hell what John McCain’s aid said anyway? Find some more straws and get back to me. This isn’t good enough. D-[/quote]
Are you a Santorum supporter, or do you just like to go into random threads and ad hom? I don’t even understand, you are an Australian Santorum supporter? What the hell does Santorum even mean to you? The guy has wacked out anti-American stances, he wanted to make having a litter of puppies in your house federally regulated, the guy is contrary to personal liberty, freedom of religion and wants to get down and dirty with global wars.
He’s like a NeoCon with a Heart, a Heart that makes him more insane than Cheney, and it’s governed by the Pope. What are his redeeming qualities? Oppression of gays, loss of personal freedoms, war with Iran, laughingstock of 1st world? What does America get out from electing or even taking Rick Santorum seriously?
Unless you want to call the New York Times a bunch of liars too, Santorum did indeed do something that by my measures seems especially bizarre.[/quote]
Well, now that the story’s been corroborated, I’m going to have to agree with you. That’s extremely bizarre behavior.[/quote]
I don’t know if you have had a child die in your arms or how you go about the death of a family member. But, the former is the worst feeling in the world. And, for Catholics it is not bizarre to have dead people around/in your house. At least it didn’t used to be.
I mean my family has 2-3 day wakes after someone is dead. Let me rephrase, we have dead bodies all up in our living room on a table for a few days.
Want to hear something even more morbid, I have two skulls (human) in mine and my father’s office. One on a shelf and the other on my desk. My grandparent’s house is connected to the family crypt. That’s right dead bodies in the basement.
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
Are you a Santorum supporter, or do you just like to go into random threads and ad hom?
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Yes I support Santorum.
The US is the greatest nation on earth and the only hope for the continued survival of freedom and democracy.
Australia and the US are VERY closely allied - much closer than with the UK due to historic reasons. Australian foreign policy is largely dictated by US foreign policy. For example, if the US was to suddenly withdraw all their forces from Afghanistan Australian forces there would be very overstretched. And an Australian government would be considerably more likely to withdraw from Afghanistan if the US withdrew. Just one example.
The world economy is dependent on the US economy as is Australia’s economy.
A neocon with a heart eh? Cheney has one but it’s been on the blink for the last 35 years.
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What does America get out from electing or even taking Rick Santorum seriously?[/quote]
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Survival.[/quote]
Lol wut? If we elect guys like Santorum we will be knee deep in the sands of Iran and the hills of North Korea in no time. I hardly see that as survival.
Not to mention freedomless. The guy is as big government as it gets, except he doesn’t want entitlements, he wants moral dictates.
We might as well elect the Ayatollah, at least he has the balls to say what he wants to be. These guys are all just theocrats playing coy.
It may seem bizarre to you, however as you said you do not have children. If your wife gave birth and the child died in your arms shortly thereafter you might feel differently.[/quote]
That is VERY common on T Nation. Most of the guys on this site are younger, unmarried, and are truly clueless when it comes to parental reactions regarding their children.[/quote]
We can’t be too hard on them though. After all I’m young, unmarried and clueless about lots of other stuff.
Lol wut? If we elect guys like Santorum we will be knee deep in the sands of Iran and the hills of North Korea in no time. I hardly see that as survival.
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The alternative would involve the Iranians and North Koreans knee deep in the US - figuratively at first. You really can’t grasp that can you?
Nonsense. He has a track record in the Senate for fiscal conservatism and reform - Gang of seven, Task Force on Welfare Reform etc.
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We might as well elect the Ayatollah, at least he has the balls to say what he wants to be. These guys are all just theocrats playing coy.[/quote]
Elect the Ayatollah? I know you don’t need to be a US citizen anymore but the Ayatollah didn’t announce that he was running in time. Maybe next time eh?
And Piers Morgan used to edit ‘News of the World’ which was owned by Murdoch. He’s not a liberal hack, just a vain self-indulgent one.[/quote]
Actually he IS quite liberal. Also, Murdoch’s tabloids like The Sun, News of the World, The New York Post etc are left-leaning mostly. Also, his so called conservative papers like The Times and The Wall Street Journal have also leaned quite far to the left - i.e. The Times support for Labour in the 2001 and 2005 elections and The Wall Street Journal opposition to the Iraqi war. And although Murdoch is thought to be conservative he may in fact just be interested in money.
‘In a 2008 interview with Walt Mossberg, Murdoch was asked whether he had “anything to do with the New York Post’s endorsement of Barack Obama in the democratic primaries.” Without hesitating, Murdoch replied, “Yeah. He is a rock star. It’s fantastic. I love what he is saying about education. I don’t think he will win Florida… but he will win in Ohio and the election. I am anxious to meet him. I want to see if he will walk the walk.”’
Things aren’t always what they seem. Murdoch is quite the enigma.
It may seem bizarre to you, however as you said you do not have children. If your wife gave birth and the child died in your arms shortly thereafter you might feel differently.[/quote]
That is VERY common on T Nation. Most of the guys on this site are younger, unmarried, and are truly clueless when it comes to parental reactions regarding their children.[/quote]
We can’t be too hard on them though. After all I’m young, unmarried and clueless about lots of other stuff.[/quote]
But you don’t mouth off about things of which you have no clue. Unlike some of the other youngsters on this site.
Santorum did a lot of good in PA, And he is definitely a fiscal conservative. The only reason he lost the election was because of Bush, it was part of that anti-bush wave.
And the only reason Casey won is because his Daddy was Gov and was pro-life and pro-guns. But other than that he was a union shill, expansive government type of person. He was definitely a people are the gov’ts serfs type of politician.
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
Santorum did a lot of good in PA, And he is definitely a fiscal conservative. The only reason he lost the election was because of Bush, it was part of that anti-bush wave.
And the only reason Casey won is because his Daddy was Gov and was pro-life and pro-guns. But other than that he was a union shill, expansive government type of person. He was definitely a people are the gov’ts serfs type of politician. [/quote]
Oh knock it off how would you know this? Just because you are an adult living in PA and have lived through several election cycles? Don’t you realize 21 year old kids, and foreigners know much more about this than you do?